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68Guns 2009-09-15 04:33

Linux Experts
 
Can anyone tell me if any of the following programs are compatible with the N800? In order for me to log on to my company's system it says I need one of these to work. I am willing to pay a bounty if anyone can get one of these to operate on my N800. Side note: my company uses a system called Saber. Thanks

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linuxeventually 2009-09-15 04:57

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These devices are ARM architecture. They are not x86 and certainly not x86 64-bit compliant. If you have the full source code then someone should be able to compile it for NITs. However Java...don't have full Java support. Certainly not Sun Java.

That said you may want to go with a MID or UMPC that are x86.

It may be possible to get working but will be painful and unless your company has a Linux department that understands the importantance of supporting different architectures then you are fighting a downhill battle.

FYI OS2008 (and all of the NITs' OS200X if I'm not mistaken) is Debain based, not Redhat but that is the absolute least of the problems and could be resolved with alien if not for the architecture mix-mash. Sorry.

Link to the files might be able to do something.

neatojones 2009-09-15 05:34

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It might be possible, but would likely require a lot of time and headaches. Your best bet is to seek out an alternative program which would also work on your company's system and doesn't require Java. I'm not familiar with Saber, so I don't know if they exist, but it never hurts to do a little google searching.

pokey 2009-09-15 12:43

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Hi guys, noob here. Would VNC into a desktop (or a pogo plug for real hawtness) running the software work? If so, there's a bounty worth earning.

nowave7 2009-09-15 12:56

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Depends whether there's VNC server running on the system. I suspect it is some sort of web portal done in Java, and he needs a JVM on his NIT for it to work.

pokey 2009-09-16 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nowave7 (Post 327172)
Depends whether there's VNC server running on the system. I suspect it is some sort of web portal done in Java, and he needs a JVM on his NIT for it to work.

Could you explain that in just a bit more detail? I didn't realize that VNC relied on Java.

sljonson 2009-09-16 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pokey (Post 327803)
Could you explain that in just a bit more detail? I didn't realize that VNC relied on Java.

VNC doesn't depend on Java. VNC are programs and a protocol for what amounts to remote desktop viewing/interaction. There are VNC *clients* that are written in Java. In fact there are a multitude of VNC clients for virtually any OS and device you can name. There was even a client for my dear old Palm Pilot (not that a tiny screen and 4 bit grey scale was all that useful :) )

What he is suggesting is using VNC to connect to a desktop PC which is has that Saber client software installed.

pokey 2009-09-16 16:42

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Right, so my question was: Is that feasible?

Since it doesn't sound like it's going to run naively on the Nit, could he install the Saber client to a desktop pc (at home, or in his office), then use the n810 to VNC into the desktop and do his business that way? I've never used VNC, and I'm only assuming that it is a two way connection that could be used to control the pc remotely from the n810. It sounds like a reasonable way to be mobile, if it's workable at all.

It sounds like saber is a Linux app packaged for redhat/fedora etc..., because he mentioned Linux RPM. If I had to run a Linux application 24 hours a day, on a remote computer, for a single user, I would look into running it on a $99 pogo plug. It uses like half a watt and is tiny and out of the way. He could leave Saber connected all the time on the pogo plug, and only connect with the n810 when he needed to use it. He just might need a second account on the saber server so he could use it normally from his desktop.


Sorry if I garbled my original question. Sometimes I forget that everybody else does not think like me.

68Guns, does that sound almost lie what you're trying to do?

68Guns 2009-09-16 20:00

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Well i have sabre on my desktop at home and it runs Win XP. I know for a fact that the latest Iphone can access Sabre. My company just released a statement saying that Sabre can now be accessed with WN Mobile 5.0. Here is a screenshot when i try to access it on my N800Attachment 4098

68Guns 2009-09-16 20:04

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To be clear, I'm trying to get it to work on my N800 when I am away from my desktop. Thanks again for all the imput.

JayOnThaBeat 2009-09-16 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pokey (Post 327952)

Since it doesn't sound like it's going to run naively on the Nit, could he install the Saber client to a desktop pc (at home, or in his office), then use the n810 to VNC into the desktop and do his business that way?


Getting VNC set up through an SSH Tunnel between your N8x0 (possibly 770) and your MS Windows PC!

overfloat 2009-09-16 20:15

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Hamachi is another option for creating a secure VNC connection to a PC that is running the software

overfloat 2009-09-16 20:46

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i use it on my n800

TA-t3 2009-09-17 09:06

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An alternative to hamachi is n2n, which is in standard debian, or from http://www.ntop.org/n2n/

It works a bit like hamachi, the difference (in addition to being open source) is that you don't rely on some 3party company server to negotiate the vpn connection for you. Instead you do it yourself.

That means, of course, that you need access to an internet-exposed server that can run your 'supernode'. The supernode does not transport any of your traffic, it only makes it possible for your p2p vpn clients to reach each other through udp.
It's quite simple to compile and install for just about anything.

nowave7 2009-09-17 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pokey (Post 327803)
Could you explain that in just a bit more detail? I didn't realize that VNC relied on Java.

Yeah, I was a bit unclear on the matter. What I wanted to say is that VNC is an option only if the VNC server is running on the server, or for that matter a PC that can connect to a Sabre server, and serve as a tunnel, since you can not VNC directly to a web portal, which is Java. Hope this clarifies it a bit.
Though the problem with PC that is connected to Sabre and running VNC server, is that you can only access it if you're in your home network, or if you have a static IP address (which most people do not have). So the problem is what if you're on a business trip and you need to connect to Sabre, using your NIT, from say an airport?

SubCore 2009-09-17 11:22

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@68Guns

you could try this: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/embedded.jsp

according to this thread, it works on an n800, albeit slowly.

judging by the screenshot you posted, a java vm is all you need, so if you get the embedded ARM version of javaSE running, you should be good to go.

68Guns 2009-09-18 00:19

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Subcore
Thanks for the info. I tried to download the program but it would not let me. You have to fill out a survey which i did but it won't let me past that.

SubCore 2009-09-18 17:43

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i filled out the survey too, and got a working download link. it won't work forever, though.

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