Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

gnuite!
We need Fremantle MMapper! Please!
Give us our Ovi Alternative!
<drops to knees>
Please?

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

Hmm no Google maps application on the n900 yet?

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

Ovi maps is better, hello? Or don't you know? Google maps via the web browser should be close to an app anyway.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

No, not really. Try GMaps sometime on an 800x480 screen. You'll see what I mean.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo-mapper/

http://twitter.com/mardy/status/3843455635

You're welcome :) but please continue the discussion about Maemo Mapper in Fremantle elsewhere.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

Workin' on it. Patience! :)

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

Not to mention Google Maps has up to date POI and all. I heard Ovi Maps has outdated POI already..

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

On Symbian, I'm a user of Ovi Maps for voice guidance, but when I need POI's, I fire Google Maps, and export the points I've found to Ovi. Something like that would be needed on the N900, too.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

Ovi Maps is great, I don't get why Nokia isn't giving Turn by Turn Voice Nav to the n900, that makes no sense to me.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

What does that mean? Are you saying turn-by-turn isn't available at all? Or are you upset that you will have to pay for it?

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Is there any chance of the maps software from OS2008 coming to N900 many of use paid for the 3 years of service and it would be nice to transfer that to the n900.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

I agree... But I originaly paid for a "lifetime" license. :mad:

Also, service implies support. There has been no real updates or enhancements to the very stale GUI since I purchased it in May of 2007 :eek:

I'm hoping that an increased customer base with the N900 will lead to:

1. More user defined plug-ins for gnuite's most excellent FOS MaemoMapper.

2. A more responsive software vendor like Garmin or TomTom will provide a more robust, fee based software.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

A brief look at dpkg-repack on "maps" showed that there'd be issues around the GPS interface changing. However, a stub libgpsbt which bridged to the Fremantle APIs wouldn't be out of the reason of possibility.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Well, Ovi Maps probably has offline maps using SVG. But since there is 3G Maemo Mapper is now a more interesting alternative. Ofcourse you pay for turn-by-turn navigation. There is no free, good alternative for that.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

My understanding was that it wasn't available at all, I don't mind paying for turn by turn, is it available as well?

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Navit has been awesome for me, it's free and can be adapted to your needs.

Re: N900 device program / developer, promoter discount?
 

How can I help to translate Maemo Mapper in french? :D

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

I'd be happy having:

http://www.navit-project.org/

On it :) Even does TTS for turn by turn. As for POI. I generally don't follow those much ;)

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

So your saying its possible to load Os2008 Maps on Fremantle if some work was done. I really think it should be done since alot of us paid out big time for that navigation.

YoDude: Well UI hasn't changed which I don't mind much its a simple program but it works. Atleast we did get new maps last year.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Does anybody know if navit works on maemo 5?

Thanks

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

I think mapping software really has two major components.

1) Updated POI - People just use their mapping software because it puts things into a location aware content.
2) Turn-by-turn or good navigation interface - people wanting to know how to get from point A to point B.

Currently Google Maps is the leader for updated POI (at least for US). There is no current application (that I am aware of) that can provide the second piece of functionality.

I'm perfectly fine with having two different apps for those different pieces of functionality.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Google has just announced its own "maemo mapper", with turn-by-turn 'n all... only it's "android mapper" :-)

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Google Maps is getting turn-by-turn directions for android 2.0.. I wonder how easy it would be to port it to Maemo

http://lifehacker.com/5391781/google...gps-to-android

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Very considering a good chuck of it will be written in Java ;)

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Aha here's how it goes:

1) See a great open source project, Maemo Mapper
2) Hire the Maemo Mapper guy
3) ????
4) Release a product called "Android Mapper"
5) Profit!

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Can i get the ovi maps europe maps to my pc.
And later on install it on my n900 .
Wich one/maps do i need.
Where can i download them for free.
Please help me

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Well I would have thought that the basic logic shouldn't have been too hard to sort, Java is a C style language so other than having to sort out memory managment it should be straight forward, though labourious, to port it to C++ and make it work faster too.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

I concur and hope somebody from maemo developer community pick it up for porting sooner than later.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

not to destroy anybody's hopes, but i doubt that we'll see a port of the google turn by turn navigation.
first, you need the source code. android is partly open source, yes, but i'm sure google keeps this one closed to have a competitive advantage. i searched a bit but couldn't find any licensing info on this. maybe someone has better information?
second, porting from java to c/c++ is a bit more involved than just having to sort out memory management. this application might depend on many dalvik-specific classes, which would have to be ported as well. you'd be opening a pandora's box of additional dependencies which would have to be sorted out...
it's probably easier to write a front-end application to maps.google.com which implements turn by turn navigation and relies on the google maps API.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

I agree. The current version of maeMaps took only around 20-30 hours to develop, and already features Directions and GPS integration, with LocalSearch coming up soon.
One could probably parse the directions list and compare it to the GPS every 5 seconds to determine current route progress, then auto-pop the map detail and a large banner for the next turn.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

If anybody knows the maemo mapper dude, let him know I'd love to help with design! :D

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Looking at https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemo-mapper/ there is no "Mapper dude" but a team full of names. However, I asked yesterday Alberto Mardegan about the current status and basically he is the only one working right now, and he is trying to find the hours to optimize the UI to Maemo 5, after having integrated successfully Clutter in the application.

If you are interested please contact those guys directly or at lease offer your help inh the official Mapper thread since I don't think Mardegan & co are following this thread.

btw any news about Navit or QtMapper?

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Joshua,
looks like you are in luck, the Mapper thread is activty asking for graphic designers: something to get your teeth into!!

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

I'm looking at the garage thread, I'll take a proper look tomorrow and see if I can figure it out... I'm down to help out for sure.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

While we're talking about map apps, there is Emerillon (which is in the only-use-if-you-know-what-you're-doing extras-devel repo).

http://www.novopia.com/emerillon/

This uses libchamplain for a nice clutter map widget. Needs hildonisation, I'm getting there gradually, but patches welcome.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Okay, not sure where to post this for feedback, but here are the icons i made so far.
http://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_01.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_02.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_03.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_04.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_05.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_06.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_07.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_08.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_09.pnghttp://mav-media.com/jrichards/maemo...cons002_10.png

fullscreen, settings, rotate, zoom in, zoom out, point, route, path, gps enabled, gps disabled

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

@ Joshua
Nice work. I really think that the community is in a need for a designer with your skills…;)

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Joshua Maemo is a more beautiful place with you here my man.

Mike C

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

Thanks, I'm still trying to figure out Garage, I sent an email to marty, I think that was the name, asking if I could help out with the icons.

I'm not really a designer by trade, but I want to develop my skills, and since I love maemo and the n900, here seems like the perfect place. I'll try to get another 2 or 3 icons done for tomorrow.

Re: Request: Nokia Maps alternative for Maemo 5
 

http://www.mav-media.com/jrichards/m...r/icons_04.jpg http://www.mav-media.com/jrichards/m...r/icons_05.jpg

The +/- layer styles may need to be tweaked still.