maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Off Topic (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=19)
-   -   Satire is dead (again) (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31961)

krisse 2009-09-22 11:32
Satire is dead (again)
 
When Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace, Tom Lehrer declared that satire was dead.

Now I'd like to present the internet world's very own Satire Is Dead moment:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8268297.stm

Quote:
"We are concerned the FCC appears ready to extend the entire array of net neutrality requirements to what is perhaps the most competitive consumer market in America - wireless services," said AT&T's Jim Cicconi.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

deadmalc 2009-09-22 11:40
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by krisse (Post 331376)
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I suppose it depends on which side of the pond you are ;-)

allnameswereout 2009-09-22 11:55
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Perhaps. Perhaps not.

christexaport 2009-09-23 13:42
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
You guys don't thing the US market is competitive?? Living here, I can tell you, its cut throat, and a big reason Nokia is nearly locked out. We have 6 major carriers that advertise heavily, we have WinMo, WebOS, OSX, Android, RIM, and Symbian devices all on TV commercials, and exclusives at each carrier. You may say, "its the same way over here", but without much regulation, these carriers are cutthroat. at&t is thinking about buying DirecTV and Verizon Dish Network, just to offer a better TV streaming effort and get vertical. Sprint is giving away unlimited everything for under 75 bucks! TMo is trying to buy into the WiMax bandwidth (it can switch to LTE via software) and offering 21 mbps 3G to battle att.
Its bad here, and one wrong move could mean bankruptcy in this economy. Wireless is probably a bigger ecomonic engine here than most other places.

christexaport 2009-09-23 13:43
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
I used to cover carrier news, so believe me, its like murder with these carriers. All of them are battling for a particular part of the market

deadmalc 2009-09-23 14:10
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 332130)
You guys don't thing the US market is competitive?? Living here, I can tell you, its cut throat, and a big reason Nokia is nearly locked out. We have 6 major carriers that advertise heavily, we have WinMo, WebOS, OSX, Android, RIM, and Symbian devices all on TV commercials, and exclusives at each carrier. You may say, "its the same way over here", but without much regulation, these carriers are cutthroat. at&t is thinking about buying DirecTV and Verizon Dish Network, just to offer a better TV streaming effort and get vertical. Sprint is giving away unlimited everything for under 75 bucks! TMo is trying to buy into the WiMax bandwidth (it can switch to LTE via software) and offering 21 mbps 3G to battle att.
Its bad here, and one wrong move could mean bankruptcy in this economy. Wireless is probably a bigger ecomonic engine here than most other places.
My views were based on this forum and off this wiki link:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Data_plans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...work_operators
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eu...ration_map.png

The last one is frankly scary!

The US does seem to improving very quickly, which is good news for all.

Texrat 2009-09-23 14:42
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 332130)
You guys don't thing the US market is competitive?? Living here, I can tell you, its cut throat
I live here, too, and I can say most assuredly it is not TRULY competitive. Telcos enjoy protections most other businesses could never dream to have.

And the irony of how "net neutrality" has been co-opted and twisted by walled garden engineers is enough to make me sick.

danramos 2009-09-23 15:36
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 332131)
I used to cover carrier news, so believe me, its like murder with these carriers. All of them are battling for a particular part of the market
Telephone companies... competitive?

I'm sure AT&T tried to argue that back in the 70's JUST before they were forced to break up. But that's okay--we can relive the past once again in a beautiful bright new future of consolidation!

Murder between carriers, indeed.

jandmdickerson 2009-09-23 15:42
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 332215)
Telephone companies... competitive?

I'm sure AT&T tried to argue that back in the 70's JUST before they were forced to break up. But that's okay--we can relive the past once again in a beautiful bright new future of consolidation!

Murder between carriers, indeed.
Yup...what he^ said...:)

livefreeordie 2009-09-23 15:56
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 332130)
...and a big reason Nokia is nearly locked out... ...and exclusives at each carrier......Sprint is giving away unlimited everything for under 75 bucks!
Yeah, sounds real competitive all right...

danramos 2009-09-23 16:27
Re: Satire is dead (again)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandmdickerson (Post 332219)
Yup...what he^ said...:)
Oh.. don't do that. You'll just encourage me.


All times are GMT. The time now is 23:23.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8