Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

THIS BRAINSTORM IDEA is to get ASR (automatic screen rotation) throughout the entire N900 UI.

Please show your support for this idea by commenting or posting any possible solutions. If you haven't yet, you must first RE-register to post in the brainstorm section. (I know, but you must...) There has been plenty of ruckus and debate behind this requested feature, so I know the supporters are out there. At least comment to show support for the idea. I'm sure one of the industrious developers will show up sooner or later.

....theme song to "Jeopardy" begins playing

I made a duplicate brainstorm idea of the same content with no responses, but the current one has two solutions from me. Please ignore the blank one, and if anyone knows how to delete the idea, let me know.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

now to see if anyone wakes up...

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

christexaport: Start any complex program in your computer where it fits nicely with your screen resolution (complex in UI) now stare at it for 5 mins.
Now imagine how bad or how the visible area are going to be cut to fit it within half of that resolution.
You might consider blend or even open office as an examples for your wild imagination.

After all, I think this might even give a better idea about calling n900 Mobile Computer. & Trust me if you ever tried now days programs with 640x480 res you will feel the PAIN!

Using scroll as a solution wont be good & forcing many rules in the GUI won't support developers either.
I suggest you be happy with whats n900 can offer you

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

FYI, I use the Nokia N97, and apps manage to rotate at a resolution of 360x640, and the web and mobile experience on the N97 is the best on any touchscreen mobile with Flash support. I don't find it bad at all. It may look better in landscape, but the tradeoff of having a free hand while on the move outweigh it, in my opinion.

But there we have it! Just what I figured... Those that don't have any interest in ASR whatsoever will troll and try to discourage those that do. Just wanted to see how fast it'd happen.

Read the thread title. PLEASE DON'T post here if you DON'T have an interest in having ASR on the N900 in the future. You're free to make a thread in support of NOT allowing it, but I'm trying to gather supporters, not dissidents.

Please don't disrupt the focus of the thread. I don't want this to turn into a debate.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Count me in.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I don't think bumping every old thread is going to help your cause:

http://lookpic.com/i/599/YA9KWLFT.png

-_- Most of the major devs don't seem to be interested in this, pointing to Nokia's half-hearted portrait mode support. Best course would be to ask those in the community that worked on the hacked up kernel that does screen-rotation to help do the same for the next-gen devices.

As you can see the thread asking for portrait mode justification, there is a great divide between power users and devs here on this topic.

I use the rotation-enabled kernel on one of my N810 installs but it's quite screwy. There are also fake portrait mode programs like AlmostReal TI calculator emulator.

I guess someone is going to just have to do it (and not worth it for the community until the device is released and thus Fremantle "finalized") because begging hasn't worked so far.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

linuxeventually, I'm just doing all that I can do. What else could I do? I'd go door to door if I had addresses. Bumping those threads may not seem like a good idea to you, but it got you here, and your advice is good, so I'm already happy with the results. Now I need to know something from you:

Who are the developers in the community that worked on the hacked up kernel that does screen-rotation, or were involved in creating apps that feature ASR? Please let me know. I'll do all the leg work.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

There are certainly some types of apps that would be nicer in portrait mode. A dictaphone app that is quick and easy to activate, is something that I would like to see.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I'm not looking for apps that should support it, I'm talking about the entire UI, like the dashboard and desktops. There is a thread about particular apps. I'm talking about the rotation like that present in the N97, the closest thing you can compare to the N900. The entire device works in either orientation.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Why I felt that if i just post that you will bring a symbian topic to me.
Symbian is using a really really limited user interface. In other word, this environment can be easily predicated and shifted the way you like.

Shouting on me to read the thread is a troll in itself! I don't blindly click on a thread and start talking useless on them & I checked your brainstorm before posting mine to see if you actually had an acceptable solution which you weren't.

It is nice to post about your wishes , but you should even consider the limits you are dealing with.

Back to enlighten you more, I am not going to ask you develop me a program, I will ask you to open Paint and draw me a graphical user interface for a program you can think about it in with respecting to the way windows UI act. Now try to do the same with limiting your self with symbian UI. Now you will see why its easy to rotate the screen with symbian than n900.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

N810 and N800 can rotate everything with xrandr, and it all works fine. If an app is messed up rotated, just "unrotate" the display. Simple.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

@Thesandlord, I think he want an automatic rotation in iPhone/Symbian style

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

ffs stop trying to kill some ones passion for making Maemo better while offering no real arguments why its not possible.
if you dont like the ideas theres no need to give the threads activity by posting in them simple as that.
this sort of thing is happening way too much when some one trys to start ideas or asks for unsupported features, if certain people get annoyed by it guess what its only going to get worse when N900 is launched so get used to it.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Who told you its unsupported feature? The only thing that isn't supported is the rotating mechanism. How would rotate every single element in GUI to fit the rotated mode while keeping everything visible and use-able.

There is already an active thread talking about this and he decided to start a new one?! (He is even in that thread!)
I didn't post here to discourage anyone ,but to give more reason why its currently isn't possible (Which by harmattan is more likely to happen then now) and no need to say that I am not against this idea (as actually people normally handling the phone with one hand)

By the way if you need to see problem from a graphical way, I wont mind making some picture to show what I am talking about in a better way.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Well nothing's easy. I don't think developers should only handle the simple stuff, either. But I see some of your point. That's why I started this thread, so those that want it and have a desire to work on implementing it can meet and work on it here.

I apologize. I wasn't trying to yell, just emphasize the purpose of the thread. I have met much opposition on this subject, and despite users wanting it, developers for the most part don't, so I need those that do to work together. I was annoying the ones who don't and getting nowhere before.

Now notice the thread said,"HELP SUPPORT asr", not debate about it or speak against it. I'm just asking you to honor the thread purpose and please try to stay on topic.

Thank you for viewing my brainstorm. You should know that while I consider myself pretty tech savvy, my developer skills are nonexistent (I do a little Basic, that's it), and I only speak from an end user perspective. I'm doing the best I can.

If you have any skills whatsoever in writing code or working in the software development process, please submit any possible solutions to the issue, no matter how hard they may be to implement. It would really help. I'm looking for insight, and even if you don't like my idea, comment on the brainstorm and give us another perspective. They are welcome there.

I'll leave that to the developers. Or do you think only those with developer skills should be submitting brainstorm ideas? I felt that might be the best course, believe it or not. I don't think any of the developers will ever take a normal user seriously. They haven't so far, not one.

Well, I don't have time to be drawing, and I won't right now, but I will tell you, my Windows PC's screen rotates, and the portrait display looks pretty good on it, so I don't see your point.

But I appreciate your input nonetheless. Maybe my experience doesn't lend itself to doing this. I just don't know how else things will ever get done otherwise, so this is what I'm going to do until something else materializes.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

FYI, ASR isn't supported in the N900 yet. See the N97 for an example of rotating every single element in the GIU. Running at 360x640 isn't so far from 480x800, so I don't see any logic in your reasoning. It may be foreign to you, but I've been using ASR for almost 3 years on Nokia smartphones and loved it. I think once it hits the N900 (and it will if I have anything to do with it), you'll see what I mean.

I already know of someone saying it was done on the N8xx, so its definitely possible, just needs some hard thinking to get it done.

I was basically asked to leave it alone, just like you did, in the various threads debating the issue. I don't wish to debate it, just provide a space for those that support it. The other threads have gotten me so upset I lost my cool, all because of those interfering with those looking to support a solution. Please respect us here and don't do the same in this thread. I titled it the way I did to avoid that very thing.

Well where's anything constructive to add? We know Harmattan is expected to have it, so it IS feasible, and this is a thread to find a solution for Fremantle. If you aren't against this idea or thread, how do you act when you oppose something? I'm afraid to see.

Please do, but I think the real issue is you don't have an idea of how it can be done successfully, when it already has been done for OS 2008 and S60 5th. But I'm open to seeing what you have to show, so by all means share. If I had a screenshot app for my PC, I'd show some examples of it working on devices of the same resolution. Look at the WinMo devices with 800x480. They do it. Why can't Maemo? What makes Maemo such a hard nut to crack?

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

i never said it was unsupported read again i was generalising about what happens everytime some one makes a thread about about missing or unsupported feature.
the GUI problems with rotation can be over come its not undoable, matter in fact various solutions was put forward in other threads

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I will skip answering this, too big to answer and I am already sleepy

I will honor the fact that you won't take the negative aspects of the topic part and also I am not wiling to stay on this thread for any longer to keep myself on its topic

Without brainstorming a lots of stuff won't be existed by now an I do really hope I didn't discourage you from making any brainstorming ,all what I tried was giving a reason of why its won't work in order to search for a better solution (You cant fix something isn't broken and you cant propose a solution for something you don't know anything about) - Consider me doing my role as devil advocate

There are many solutions ,but not practical and the one that looks good is forcing developers even more to be restricted in designing their GUI which after all not good

If you think a kid shouldn't dream, then adults won't have any childhood.
Brainstorming is a major part in everything (Except in my writing) , so its really needed

The reason why it is working fine with your laptop is because there is enough resolution that your programs can make a use of which shows them as they should.
Anyway don't worry about paint, I'll make some draw when I wake up


Anyway I am off to sleep its already late here

Edit: Oh boy, I have to respond for your next post

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I guess...

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

@NvyUs: My short answer is wait when the device gets within people hands and then someone might take the time to fix it.
[I think you will find my respond to this on my other post]
Trust me, You really don't wana know & and as one of solutions you can tell everyone to use containers when they are building their GUI
I will answer this when I have the time & I am already aware about that (Symbian is simply limited in its GUI) & OS 2008 (Just search here and see how its been rotate to get a better idea) & About WinMo if you dont mind link me to screenshots/video that shows that to me I am not following Windows Mobiles for long time.

Funny, I didn't except to have many people to argue with them in many forums at this time! I guess I am done for today
Time for the bed.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I couldn't sleep before posting this, I am using symbian since nokia start shipping 7650 where it didn't have a memory card then shifting to nokia 3650 (these devices were the begging of what symbian become) and ASR I am already aware about it since and it's not strange for me since iPhone had this feature and by the time Nokia released the sensor API's and latter someone programed the auto rotate program and moving in time even forward Nokia responded to iPhone by including this feature in its firmware and no need to tell me the rotating was existed in s60v3 as I already know.



Now I can go and sleep

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Ok? My N810 "autorotates" when you pull out the keyboard. The system supports dynamic resolution. I think people will write a script to automatically rotate based on the accelerometers.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Has anybody seen the following thread...

>> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...289#post333289

That^ was posted by thp on 09-21-09 , 06:54 PM

@ christexaport

I'll respond to your reply to my request here rather than continuing to crap in thp's very productive thread.

In it you cross posted:

(I did not realize at the time that you, in effect, had spammed the board for support of your "effort".) I responded:

...you then replied:

That's just it dude... your ???
WTF ??? It looks to me like you started these efforts 3 days after a partial solution was already developed and additional work was just getting started.

It seems it is actually thp's efforts that have done something about it.

Now I can appreciate your enthusiasm, as someone else put it, and over 400 posts in 40 days certainly is enthusiastic but, cross posting and crapping in threads is counterproductive don't you think?

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

FWIW: http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._in_fremantle/

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Thanks again! You obviously have experience in software development processes. Your brainstorm was well prepared and written. I'm a little encouraged that although not in the same format, most of the ideas I mentioned in my brainstorm are touched on in your presentation, which shows we see the same obstacles that must be overcome, and have similar ideas on how to get them done.

Its obvious I should figure a way to combine our brainstorms or at least abandon one and focus all efforts into one of the two. I'm totally for abandoning mine and following your more experienced lead, and providing my insight and ideas as a resource to help bring our imagination to fruition. How do you suggest I proceed? How can I get everyone I've sent to my idea brainstorm to ignore mine and focus on yours instead?

If you haven't seen my brainstorm, here it is:
http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ut_the_ui-002/

So what do you think of my ideas? You'll notice how I've probably mistakenly placed the challenges I need to overcome as theoretical solutions. This shows my inexperience in matters such as these. But by checking my ideas, you can see that I've attempted to address your challenge # 1 with my solution #4, though I definitely have more work to do. I addressed your challenge #2 with two options so far via my solutions # 1 and #6. I addressed your challenge # 3 with my solution #2. You #4 challenge is partially addressed in my solution #3.

We should work together to possibly come up with some great ideas. I hope you're willing to do so, and you seem eager to get things done, so I'm happy to follow your lead. What next?

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Well I did in fact read that entire thread, and I saw part of the solution to issues in my brainstorm present in his work. But if you read both my and mrojas' brainstorms, you'd see there are many more challenges than just getting the screens to rotate. We're trying to make the experience painless, and make it seem integrated as if Nokia designed the UI with this intention. I don't think any less expectation would be worth my effort or as attractive to a larger audience.

You may find it counterproductive, but I see motion and activity around the solution I seek that hadn't existed until yesterday. I'm satisfied with the fruits of my efforts, and hope they draw more than just attention in the end. I'd be even happier if you were a part of it.

As many people that have expressed the want for ASR in the N900, I think I should aim high and give a complete and well planned and implemented solution. thp's work must be amazing, but it is just the start of what I and mrojas, and many others envision and expect. We look forward to him joining us in that endeavor if he so pleases.

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Of course, but I think you are missing the point. The community will come up with hacks like that in no time, but it's just that, a hack. If you want it to be an official part of the OS, then it must work flawlessly and "just rotate back if the application looks broken" won't do. Completely automatic rotation is not going to be pretty, without some serious thought and work being put into it.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

... that's all well and good and your leadership in this "endeavor" would be commended... if it hadn't come 3 days after someone else did 80% of the actual work and posted HOWTO documentation on this board. :)




Your spamming the board as well as your average of 10 posts a day could also be attributed to the enthusiasm of a new member...

However, they are posted over ad's for your commercial site(s) in your signature... I say sites because you apparently just registered a "Maemo" site and the appearance of a link to it in your signature corresponds to your recent quest to find a solution to a problem that already may be solved...

I'm just keeping it real here.

BTW, I truly hope that your activity is unbridled enthusiasm... then it is just a matter of restraint and in the end, it is good for the community. :)

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Addendum:

The end does not justify the means. I am talking about the productivity of the community and not just 1 member in 1 thread.

Cross posting and thread crapping are frowned upon in most forums because of this.

I'll put it this way...
I just got a great deal on my car insurance yet I don't see much motion or activity acknowledging that fact on this board.

Since most members could benefit from cheaper car insurance should I spam any threads tagged with save, cheap, car, insurance, and great deal?
(BTW, my brother-in-law sells car insurance so I'll add his web site to my posts.)

Do you see what I mean?

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

well said YoDude, and nice to see someone else thinking Chris is spamming all over here. No need to participate unless you can add someone thing useful which he forget that point.

I didn't know about thp project, I am glade you posted it or otherwise I wouldn't know about (It doesn't seems a complex task as the way I had in my mind after reading his code).

Now I really want to set up the SDK so I can try this ,but I really don't think scratchbox is in love with none Debian based distros.
I will give it anther try with Archlinux-64bit today , hopefully it works this time.

@christexaport , Seriously try to spend your time reading / playing with Linux (Ubuntu [i guess you picked?]) & check xserver (xorg might get you interested) and postponed this topic till a 2 weeks after n900 getting into people hands.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I'm really sorry to offend you, but I looked for help and support from you and many others when I first caught wind of the minimal support of portriat in the N900. While you're a veteran, I never seemed to get any help from you or other old heads. This forum is not user-friendly, nor many of its members. I was directed by most of you guys, including you, to not just continue talking about it, but acting and doing something. I did take your advice, and it seems to be working quite well. I now have the support of the very talented mrojas, and I believe he will take the lead of this initiative going forward.

I commend thb for his work, but I wasn't aware of it, nor did you or anyone else mention it to the various new users looking for a solution. All we got was discouragement and ridicule. And now you want to make me into some bad guy for seeking the same ends as thb congruent and delayed of his efforts. I'll also say his solution is not the final end I was seeking, so I'll carry on as planned. I hope thb's work can be something I can build upon and improve. Isn't that the open source spirit?

I'm a voracious poster. I'm very involved in the mobile community, and I'm online 10+ hours a day, usually from my mobile, in probably 6 different forums along with this one. This is nothing new for me, so get used to me. I'm a user advocate, and I take on causes as I see fit on my own dime. I'm a known blogger and reviewer, but not a paid one.

The sites in my signature are my online homes, but I don't benefit financially from them. I'm not at liberty to discuss site revenue, but they are far from profitable, instead positioned as a resource funded by a close friend of the Nokia community. SF is a pillar of the Symbian community, and the home of the refined Symbian OS hacking measures. We intend to be the same for the Maemo community. Our site compliments this one, only with a more laid back family nature to our forums, and a younger base. I'm not the owner of either site, just a longtime contributor.

I see that the Maemo.org forums have a gap in communication, and we decided to start a forum at the request of our members dissatisfied with the level of support available here. Its great for developers, which teach me something new everyday, but horrible for new users. I will come here and engage these forums and take the information back to my community to share. I won't get rich, and it is back breaking work, but I do it because it is my nature to serve and assist. You should try it sometimes.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Um, I'm not offended... I just want to know why you feel that you are justified in cross posting and dumping in productive threads?

From what I gather from your responses is that:

1. I and others didn't help you when you asked. :confused:

2. This isn't a very user friendly forum.

3. Despite your being "online 10+ hours a day" you were not aware of a thread on a subject that you are advocating for. :confused:

and finaly...

4. "we decided to start a forum at the request of our members dissatisfied with the level of support available here".

You are right about one thing, I am an "old head" but it is a shame you seem to feel that is a bad thing.

In my book there is never justification for cross posting and thread crapping. Particularly on the scale that was witnessed recently.


...and as an "old head" I will keep bringing this up because that's what "old heads" do. :eek

That is, until there is at least some acknowledgment that thread crapping is unproductive in a forum and cross posting is considered bad form because traffic or post count is increased without adding any new content. Both of these behaviors also tend to piss people off. :)

And BTW... you don't even know me or what I have accomplished or you wouldn't have ended by telling me what to try. Do a little research, will ya?... Please!

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I believe the simplest solutions are generally the best. So with regard to a main UI that supports rotations, I would suggest something like this:

- No portrait mode homescreens. Rather make the phone app the portrait mode "homescreen". This would retain the current (optional) "rotate while on homescreen to launch phone" mechanic. The current phone UI option for launching the phone by turning could be replaced with a general setting to enable rotation of the desktop and dashboard.

- The dashboard is a tricky thing, especially with a mix of portrait mode and landscape windows. A simple solution could be to use a "card-view" as on the pre, which only shows one full preview and two partial ones on each side (to be swiped). This wouldn't be nearly as useful as the landscape dashboard, but it would work well for one-handed task-switching.

The question remains, how to display landscape applications in a portrait mode dashboard? It's not as simple as to display a rotated image, keep in mind that portrait and landscape UIs have different titlebar locations, which don't show up on the thumbnails. Perhaps the "card-view" could actually display landscape windows in landscape orientation. It would look slightly chaotic, but it shouldn't be too bad actually.

P.S.: A big problem remains: What happens if you rotate the screen while on the dashboard? Do you wait until all applications have acquired their new orientation? This could take considerable time, but otherwise you would get broken thumbnails (at least on the landscape dashboard, which doesn't have a proper way to display portrait thumbnails).

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@chris

I must just be a very easy person to get along with.

This forum / community was very welcoming to me, and has managed to help me with all of my problems.

I have a hard time believing that your users urged you to start a forum in response to how unfriendly / unhelpful this one was.

I think the regulars around here are great. In fact, there's only a very small handful of members that, when asked, I would say are jerks.

Also, mind you, I know far less about mobile devices than you do, of that I am sure.

I had never even heard of Maemo or Symbian or internet tablets before my laptop's mobo fried and I had to find a temporary replacement.



I just don't get the negative generalizations made about this community (most, it seems, from contributors to other tech sites)...
I'm too lazy for links right now, but yourself and ricky cadden to name two off the top of my head. (Not trying to start any sh*t, but it happened).

I'm just an end-user. But, I feel like I'm part of this community, and I try to help people with problems whenever I can (until I find a job anyway). So, by calling the community unhelpful or unfriendly, you are calling me unhelpful and unfriendly. And that hurts.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

You forget when I first started trying to get support for ASR, you were there. You didn't point me to any resources, developers experienced in rotation solutions, or give me any advice other than "do something about it and don't just keep whining." Or does my memory not serve me well. I'll admit, I don't remember anyone, but I do remember seeing you everywhere, but not hearing one helpful word. I have gotten help and support from others, so I'm ok now, but it would've been nice to have someone give me an introduction to the who's how's and where's of this site.

I've been pretty vocal and present since the N900 announcements. I don't recall you mentioning anything helpful. Forgive me if I'm off base here. But I can name the helpful ones on one hand.

I don't spend all of my time here. I am an editor at two other sites, and keep up with my own forums. And with the bad design of this site, are you surprised I didn't see that thread? And do you think that solution is what I'm looking for? Did YOU point me to the site? I notice you've been in all of the threads I was "whining" in, so why didn't you say something if you knew about it?

I'm an alien here. I don't know my way around things, and have had to self start. Don't knock me, because I think I've done pretty well, considering. I've started my own brainstorm, gathered my "experts" and am working on a solution as we speak. I hope you'll join us instead of engaging me in ping pong on this thread. I'm not about all of this kid mess. Its really discouraging and childish. I got upset the other day, but I usually don't indulge in this type of crap.

This forum is oriented towards developers and seasoned users with Linux experience, but lacking in support for new users and former Symbian users. I'll fill that space and allow my users to share ideas there and here as well. We promote this site, even though its not where it needs to be yet. My goal is to get it there. Care to help?

I like it, but I don't see any mentoring or helpfulness from you in my experience. What is this reposting of the same picture supposed to do? When will you give me some useful advice in pertinence to ASR and getting a software project off the ground? Can you help me in any way in that regard? Because I'm probably older than you, and not into all of this back and forth. Exactly what do you want from me? Right now, you're wasting my time and yours.

I didn't know I was doing anything wrong. I did what I could to find the necessary talent I needed. Since you have a book on rules of posting, how do you suggest I may have acted? I would've made a thread, but they just get hijacked by haters, and its hard to get a thread noticed the way the site is designed.

And I wasn't thread crapping. I posted in threads mentioning rotation of the UI thinking developers with experience I could utilize in my ASR dreams would be there. Turns out I was right. In retrospect, I could've PM'd him, but I wanted more eyes than just those. Some may just be reading the thread and find interest.

I made one short post in each thread. No moderators have expressed any problem with it, just you. Are you a moderator? If so, just tell me the posting rules and move on.

So unless we agree, you'll keep pestering me and hijacking my thread? How childish. Maybe it IS productive, and others should try it until this forum is redesigned. And what you call cross posting I call networking. I only wished you were interested in seeing me make progress, not word boxing with me.

I don't get any rewards for posting. I'm just using the thread as a social tool to communicate with others of similar interest. Your badgering me is pissing me off, but I'm gonna let you make it. I have better things to do. What you've done in the past means diddley. What are you doing so helpful now, bro? Why not help me instead of being...whatever you call this??

So do you have anything to add to the ASR effort for Fremantle or not?

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

I appreciate your ideas. Could you submit these possible solutions to this brainstorm for others to vote on?
http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._in_fremantle/

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

@chris

lemme get a login to maemo-freak, i want to see whats going on over there.

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Also, is there another forum skin available for symbian-freak? The color scheme hurts my brain.

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Nvm, I guess thats just the main page... forum itself is good.

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I LOOOVE the banned-users list on s-f. Why don't we have one of those?? :D

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

we need this. this would make quick txting easier. we need this.

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

Note: I don't have a separate login for brainstorm yet. Hopefully I can get some time next week, but someone feel free to copy it over if it sounds useful.
Copied and pasted from the other thread:

One way to implement portrait mode via automatic screen rotation (ASR).
Have the phone rotate it and if it is too big to fit, then you have to scroll around (kinetic scrolling comes in useful here?). This will at least have the mode until there are "proper" portrait mode UIs. Those who don't want to make a UI can leave it if they want, their choice.

ASR should also be switchable on or off, and perhaps with an option for permanent portrait or permanent landscape (the default).

An example of this could perhaps be (simplistically):

on event change accelerometer_value
if accelerometer_flag= "OFF"
end if
elseif <program>_allows_ASR = "OFF"
end if
else if accelerometer_value = "Portrait"
then call <program>_UI_portrait
else call <program>_UI_landscape
end if

Ok this is very basic and I should get back to SQL statements... it's been years since I programmed in C++, this looks more like VB...!

Re: Help support Automatic Screen Rotation (Univeral Portrait support) for the N900
 

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Thanks,
Tim