No functionality in Application Manager
 

Hello forumers,

Just encountered a problem. Was updating my applications on N810 (Diablo), and When I was installing an update an error came up I think it was Not enough space at target location. Now, when I go into the Application Manager, whenever I try anything e.g Show installed applications, browse installable applications and check for updates, nothing is listed.

Here is the log from the Application Manager.

hildon-application-manager 2.1.19.1
apt-worker exited.
apt-worker: can't truncate lock /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/apt-worker-lock: No space left on device
read: Bad file descriptor
apt-worker is not running
apt-worker is not running
apt-worker is not running
apt-worker is not running

All I want is to get some functionality from the application manager so I can free up space from my device memory e.g fennec and xulrunner (40mb!)

Thanks for any help as always.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

I had something like that a while back. I can't remember the exact details, but I had to open up the terminal to fix it. I poked around and found that I somehow had one of my Maemo Mapper repositories set to store maps in the applications area, and it had filled up. Manually deleting the maps solved the problem.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Greetings Tehforum:

That is exactly the same log information I get on my N800.

Could it be possible that a virus has infected the Application Manager?

Regards Robert

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Ouch. First and foremost, I'm not sure how this situation should be dealt with on Maemo so take my ramblings with grain of salt and proceed at your own peril. In any case, I'd start by rebooting the device and then trying to running application manager to "check for updates". Rebooting may delete some temporary files and free just enough space to resolve the issue. These files can be deleted without rebooting the device but rebooting is the easiest method to explain.

If that simple snake-oil remedy won't work and you feel adventurous and lucky, well, here's what I'd do on full-blown Debian installation. Note that you'll have to close Application Manager to run the commands on the terminal. If you read beyond this point you can only blame yourself if you get yourself into even worse trouble. ;-) Actually, if you can show your device to someone familiar with Debian ask him. He should know how to resolve this.

- Open terminal
- Check apt's cache size: du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives
- If there's anything at all in the cache, empty the cache as root: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb

After this there should be free disk space for apt and dpkg to play with. On Maemo, I'd then try to "check for updates" again. If this would still return errors (check the log), here's how I would continue on command line (after closing Application Manager):

- Try to configure partiall installed packages: dpkg --configure --pending

If Application Manger still won't work:

- Have apt-get to fix the installation: apt-get -f install

Be warned that "apt-get -f install" may do seemingly unexpected things such as install and/or remove packages.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

As the error message says this situation is reached when the root filesystem is completely full. Of course a virus could do this but that's not very likely.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Oh, I forgot one important thing. Since the user's files are also located in the root file system, you may be able to resolve this by simply moving some of the user's files to a memory card. You should be able to do this with File manager.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

I've run into that a few times. The internal memory is full (data or applications). I always found that a reboot fixed the problem (like wnd said).

After this the Application Manager should show everything, and you'll be able to remove some programs to free memory if needed.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Yup, just needed a reboot. However, I always refrain from rebooting because shutting down, and turning on takes up a lot of power, it's better if you just leave it on all the time, rather than switch it off when not needed.
How simple!

Thanks everyone.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

i;ve got the same problem but on n900
after installing some apps i got error not enough memory in target location and couldn't install anything
so rebooted
after that app manager stopped showing any apps installed
here's log:
hildon-application manager 2.2.35-3
write:broken pipe
write:broken pipe
apt-worker exited
apt-worker: can't truncate lock /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/apt-worker-lock: no space left on device

and cannot uninstall anything
i understand that somehow app manager installed the apps on root and filled it up - guessing only (i'm a windows user)

tried deleting folders and files but nothing works
downloading flash file..

still hesitate to use wnd solution - in case breaking something further

any help greatly appreciated

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

I had the same problem

I solved it by going to xterminal to the root:
cd /

there were 2 log files from Fring and a xml file from omweather. I deleted those 3 files and app manager works again.

hope u can solve it like i did with my N900

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

hey HtheB i have the same problem with my n900 my rootfs is full and the problem doesnt stop at the app manager. the bad thing is that i didnt install rootsh before and now cuz the app manager doesnt work. so can you write down all of the codes for xterm cuz im kinda a newbie. hopeffully by getting the app manager back running i can uninstall whatever is messing up my n900. thanks!

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

x-terminal

sudo gainroot

apt-get autoclean

-------------------------------------------
Warning
Actually, this action may be dangerous ...(someone thought it is dangerous......But no problems for my device)
However, the problem of " not enough memory to target location " could be solved...................and then I updated my n900 to 3.2010.02 successfully....

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

...which is missing any info what this does and how dangerous this is to the average users in this forum that are not used to Linux. :-(

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

There is nothing dangerous about apt-get clean. It _ONLY_ cleans out just-downloaded packages. Any operation by the application manager or apt-get that needs any package(s) removed by apt-get clean will automatically re-download the package. apt-get clean simply flushes a local cache. It's utterly safe, unless you intend to never again connect to the network.

Of course, 'sudo gainroot' implies some danger, if you execute something different than 'apt-get clean'.

What _is_ dangerous is that 'rm -rf' command originally suggested. Now that one is one to avoid at all costs. One typo and your system is viped out.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Application Manager occasionally looses knowledge of all applications. On my N810 a reboot solves the problem.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

hi please i need help somethings is wrong with mi app manager if i try to install or uninstall appears a message OPERATION ERROR im vere worried please i need help sorry for my english

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Application Manager menu-> Tools-> Log...-> Save as. Let's see if that gives us any additional information.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

holdon-application-manager 2.2.52.2
apt-worker:terminating 1454 to get lock
apt-worker:can't write lock /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/apt-worker-lock No space let on device
apt-worker:closed connections
apt-worker:exited

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

My interpretation of the log is that you're out of storage space. If I'm correct you could move some data files from maim memory to the internal storage.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

How exactly can I do this? I've tried deleting a few files with file manager, but am I needing to delete something specific?

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Try (as root):
You'll then need to look to find what apps you've installed are using up all the rootfs space.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Ok, that worked. Now how do I check which apps are installed where?

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

ANd how do I prevent this in the future?
THanks, you guys are the best.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

StorageUsage can help with that - it can check the installed packages and present a view of their sizes, indicating which are installed on the rootfs. There's the problem of installing it though, if you don't have any free space at all.

You can also use the perl scripts I posted here - they'll generate a list of packages using rootfs, and show which files are in rootfs for an individual package.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Ok, I loaded StorageUsage. Still a little unclear as to where to look and what to delete :)

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Wow, same problems again today. WHy does this keep happening???

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Hi, I'm having a similar problem on my N900. I don't have any application catalogues visible and I also can't send /receive messages.
I have 1.6GB free for application installations.
I tried 'apt-get autoclean' but no joy.
I also tried rebooting and removing the battery.

I would really appreciate some suggestions.

Bratac

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

You have to disable the devel extra's in your app manager.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

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Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

help! on n800 - doing nothing.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

WTF are you trying to do? You look to have both chinook and fremantle repositories enabled, but I'd expect you to be using Diablo on an N800.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

I'm running all three on partition.

jk

I basically selected repos off the site below without realising what I'm doing and its been playing up since. How to rectify - it's diablo ?.

http://www.gronmayer.com/it/
Many Thanks.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

If you're after a stable functional system I recommend reflashing to Diablo and checking out http://wiki.maemo.org/Diablo_Community_Project which has picked up on support for Diablo. Being available in someones repo doesn't assure a fully debugged application that plays well others. That's not to say I haven't used gronmayer to locate a particular ap but I favor aps from the more standard maemo repos.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Can the repos be used without reflashing ?.

I've installed Maemo 5 theme so running android style menu and mer theme which has removed side-panel.It's lookimg quite slick now!. What kind of upgrade does it offer ?.

Many Thanks

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

Repos can be changed without flashing. Anything you installed from a repo you remove will stay installed until updated from an active repo.

Re: No functionality in Application Manager
 

If you've not actually installed anything from the other repos, then it's just a matter of deleting all the non-diablo repositories (and any of those you don't actually need). If you have installed anything then you may need to reflash, as there's no knowing how it might have messed your system up.