How Nokia Learned to Love Openness
 

Interesting article:

http://www.computerworlduk.com/commu...2582&blogid=14

Overall, very positive. Although the little ogg issue is a bit troubling.

Re: How Nokia Learned to Love Openness
 

Yeah, lack of Ogg is a perennial favorite. I don't mind the external ogg support, except that it never recognizes artist/album/whatever tag information in the oggs, so I have MP3s in my Library, all nicely auto-organized, and then The Lump Of Oggs. :(

Re: How Nokia Learned to Love Openness
 

Nokia or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Openness

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As long as it has the CEO riding an n900 down to the surface, waving a cowboy hat....

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Don't tell me that. I have had all my music in ogg format for years. You are telling me that all my music is going to be tag-less on this device. Yuck! :eek: Why?

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Use MediaBox. It is your friend. It supports all of the tags, so you can sort it as you like.
Just the platform's media player experience is ... lacking.
Perhaps I just keep installing the wrong ogg support (which is itself a symptom of not having ogg support built in).


Heaven forbid Nokia not pay royalties.

Re: How Nokia Learned to Love Openness
 

I suppose Theora and Dirac are Right Out, too. :(

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Royalties to whom? There are no royalties needed to implement ogg, that is the whole point. Is there some official explanation as to why Nokia looks down on ogg, or is just a matter of some higher ups having stocks in Fraunhofer IIS?

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http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/ogg-support/

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2...support_status

Tuomas hasn't uploaded yet his Summit slides explaining in detail the status of Ogg support in Maemo 5.

See also https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176 - better starting to read bottom up to see last comments.

Re: How Nokia Learned to Love Openness
 

Ogg-Support currently at least supports Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, and Ogg Theora. The media player on the N900 can read the Ogg tags with the latest ogg-support.

Re: How Nokia Learned to Love Openness
 

OK. So Nokia won't do the work themselves to implement ogg out of the box in its devices and will not support it becoming a W3C standard. But, they provide us with an open platform with all the resources to do it ourselves. I guess that is fair enough. Thanks to all. :)

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Exactly my point. (The statement was, bolded for clarity, "Heaven forbid Nokia not pay royalties" ;)

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It can't read the ogg export of a song I'm working on... :(

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Is there an official stance on why ogg is not implemented?
I'm just curios as I haven't come across anything that tells us why.

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There is no official stance AFAICT but I believe it's because Nokia is holding patents on H.264 and wants to drive people use it instead of free formats. The more H.264 content there is the more device manufacturers will have to license H.264.