Looking for completely different OS experience.
 

Hi everybody!
Few time ago I started a topic that impressed a lot of users for its contents.
I asked infos about running Win Mo on N810.
Well, I bought my n810 last year in Canada; unfortunely I didn't know that here in my fu**ed country (Italy) it will be unusefull because of the very low number of free hotspots wifi.
Anyway, still now I wasn't able to run a gps navigator; unable to feel a good gaming experience; impossible to find a graphic editor because I'm a graphic designer.
Maemo is unuseful for a simple user looking for good multimedia experience; looking for infos on the web about running this or that app, you must have at least a IT master degree.

Speak to me as simple you can: n810 has ARM processor, a lot of Win Mo devices use ARM processors, I-Phone has a ARM processor: why can't I use on my n810 WIN MO or I-Phone OS as main OS?

Please answer me or I'll never use again my N810 and I'll buy an I-Phone.

Re: Looking for completely different OS experience.
 

juriaboni, of course you can run Winmo and iphone OS on the n810 hardware.

First get the source for these operating systems
set compiler switches or tweak code
compile.

I'll leave it for you to decide which step will be most difficult.

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Because there are a lot more differences than just what processor the devices use.

If you think that telling us you're going to go and buy yourself a set of handcuffs is some sort of threat to us... lol

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Icuk: "Speak to me as simple you can" :p ;)

Juria, that operating system is not available for the N8*0 because Microsoft doesn't want it, plain and simple. Nokia doesn't have the rights and software code to install it on these devices (and even if they had these, maybe they wouldn't want it!). And differently from Maemo OS which is open source, Windows Mobile is closed source, which means that the source code of the operating system is not available to be put on whatever device you want (with the needed adaptations/hacks).

If I said anything wrong, please correct me. :)

(Ps. parlo pure italiano se serve, ma non mi pare tu abbia problemi con l'inglese ^^)

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This one is easy, RDesktop or VNC is your friend.
N810 makes great input device for MSPaint.

Mike C

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To try and respond to your needs rather than to scoff at non-Maemo OSs, while you can't run WinMo on the N810 there are people who have installed a version of Android on the N810. By all accounts, while there are aspects of it that the Maemo community despises, it is more user friendly for in the inexperienced non-Linux person.

Here are some discussions:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=26342
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25410
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25736

I haven't tried this so I don't know how easy it is. Good luck.

I should note that in a later post significant problems were pointed out with these apps. As I said, I have never tried them. At this point it doesn't sound as if they would be useful to you.

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Juria,

regarding the lack of wifi hotspots in Italy:
you can easily tether your N810 to your 3g Cell phone and have data anywhere, using your cell phone as a modem.

I do this with my N800 and it works wonderfully. When there are no known wifi networks in range, the N800 automatically connects to my phone. Always connected! :)

--Anch'io sono Italiano, se hai bisogno di spiegazioni/traduzioni riguardante le risposte in questo thread, mandami un messaggio. Non sono un esperto di linux, ma non mi spiace aiutarti come posso.
-Davide

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Personally, I would love to see someone running WinMo on an iPhone. That would be surreal! If you manage to do that, I'll send you a PayPal payment to cover the cost of your iPhone purchase. (Proof required, and must be fully functional.)

I cannot imagine a more incongruent juxtaposition than WinMo on an iPhone, while at the same time I see it as the perfect symbolization of what Maemo is not.

I can imagine an advertisement featuring the WinMo iPhone on one side and the Maemo N900 on the other. With just two images, it sums up something powerful... just not sure exactly what ;)

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I won't answer you so that I can buy your (barely) used N810 when you buy your fantastic and much better IPhone.

:)

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Geez, you guys are making it hard for me to defend the user-friendliness of this forum.

This is how it's done:


Go on.....

At least you have meatballs and beautiful women...

For GPS, you can use the pre-installed map application with (pay :-/) Wayfinder or the Maemo-Mapper program (which I use and love).

For gaming, there is a plethora of emulators, as well as the games made for Maemo. Have you tried Drnoksnes SNES emulator? It's quite nice. Also, apparently you can use a Wii-mote.

As far as graphics editors goes, I'm not sure, but have you seen the N8*0 Art Thread? They're using something good over there, there's GREAT examples of designs made on tablets.

I have an associate's degree from community college, and I'm doing okay.

Because Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are evil, evil men.

Well, threats aren't the best way to go, but hopefully some of the info I've provided above will help you out, at least a little.

</good deed for the day>

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Are you buying an N900?

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Woah there, buddy.

There are two versions of Android for the tablets, and they are both awful ... (no offense intended towards the developers)....


1. The version of straight Android that installs inside of Maemo
Hardly runs... I think you *might* be able to click the screen... maybe...

2. NITdroid
Installs as a replacement of Maemo, but has no sound (which is a big buzzkill IMO)

So... let's *not* tell people they should use these as Maemo replacements... Diablo still pwnz until Mer comes out.

Thank you for your time.

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at one point i've felt just like you, but now i'm glad i hung in there. the n810 is a truly amazing device. gps will work if you learn how to use it. same with much of the other software. the lack of manuals drove me nuts too. if you can invest a little time and patience, reading about it on this site, and playing with the device, it can pay off in a big way.

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jay: they don't have meatballs, that's an american invention. everything else: right on.

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Oh I think you know exactly where I'm going....


I'm jus' funnin' with ya ;)

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You leave my meatballs alone you freak

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pf, meatballs.

THIS is how a nice italian sauce bolognese is supposed to look like.

why form the meat into balls when it dissolves so beautifully in tomatoe-sauce :)

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Coming from an Austrian, this is pure gold

I have to go shovel poop from my pants.....

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This is just what I hate about maemo. If I pay for anykind of stuff, I just want to use it and don't loose anymore time studying how to use it.


For the rest: Here we have meatballs and beautiful women?

I never heard Italy is the country of meatballs and, just to let you know, my wife is Albanian so...

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From such point of view, I think that an Iphone or also a Symbian smartphone could be a better choice than Maemo devices, which up to now have needed some tinkering for unveiling their full potential.
Maybe with the n900 the user experience might be easier, and require less bugzilla or command line.
Me, I prefer to both use & hack my devices, hence I'm with Maemo.

Comunque, ti consiglio di dare un'occhiata all'n900 prima di cambiare parrocchia e passare alle mele :cool:

Re: Looking for completely different OS experience.
 

Not sure why there is a problem in learning how to use something. Asking for help is also cool. Making threats is maybe not best way though.

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You sir, need to visit the closest IKEA and get some proper Swedish Meatballs!

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You paid for Nokia N900, the community support is entirely voluntary.

I'd like to order a real Italian pizza, Grappa, and Italian ice cream with espresso as dessert, please :)

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Although the N800/N810 are capable of so much, you must admit they are not the best device to learn on. They require a lot of technical knowhow or learning of, and I can absolutely understand his feelings about it.

A friend of mine gave me an N800 back in 2007/2008 shortly after he bought it. He substituted it with an iphone. I used it for a few days and put it aside because I felt I couldn't do much with it. I picked it back up about 12-15 months ago, and found this wonderful community. I have come a long way since then and can honestly say I am now "Dependent" on my N800. I could not live without it. I use it for everything, but have spent countless hours tinkering with it to make it work the way I want it to and to learn how to use it.

I am however grateful for this, because the N800 has made it possible for me to be introduced to linux, and have since completely switched over to Linux for all my uses, including my desktop Operating system.

What I'm trying to say is that although this is an Exceptional device, I can fully understand people's frustrations with it because I experienced those same feelings in the past.

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Now I really want some Swedish meatballs.

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Dantonic

Point taken. But I think the idea that anything can just be "used" is a relative term.

The N800 was sold as an internet tablet, and you can't surly say that it was that difficult to fire up a browser, connect to your broadband and start surfing? It even has a google widget on the home screen.

Running graphics design apps on the other hand I would agree with you. But then I found it hard to use my first pair of chopsticks when my mum upgraded me from a china spoon. But the desire to eat made me learn.

Mike C

Re: Looking for completely different OS experience.
 

As a n00b, I will defer to your greater knowledge but none of the posts before mine did much to answer the basic question of whether or not there was an easier OS that could be used on the N810. It may be that there isn't. If so, rather than laughing at the idea that someone would think that WinMo could be installed (or laughing at the idea that anyone would want to), maybe someone could have told him that.

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you culd try to run iphon os throo buting from sd card might work ?????????