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gomcoite 2009-10-17 03:37

How to hard reset a N900?
 
hi all, i want to hard reset my N900. How should i go about it?

Psymastr 2009-10-17 04:36

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I don't have a phone, but I have knowledge! With that:

Try these 2 things:
1) Take off the cover. Remove battery.
2) Hold the power button down until it resets.

ioioio 2009-10-17 15:14

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Psymastr (Post 349334)
I don't have a phone, but I have knowledge! With that:

Try these 2 things:
1) Take off the cover. Remove battery.
2) Hold the power button down until it resets.

On a n810 that's a soft reset. A hard reset would be to reflash. I don't think this has changed on the n900. I suggested some time ago that a hard reset mechanism should be built into the n900 (reflashing itself from an image in flash maybe), but it never gained traction.

krystof_k 2009-11-28 13:04

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I've the same problem. I tried to flash it using NSU, but it left all data and settings in phone. Is there any other way?

Untouchab1e 2009-11-28 13:15

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
You cn reset the N900 by doin a re-flash using the FIASCO image and the command line flasher-3.5 tool.

pagesix1536 2009-11-28 14:15

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I don't get it. How is everyone messing up Maemo so much in the first week of owning it?... to the point that they have to reflash the OS back to defaults? Might do you some good to stay out of the command line if you're messing it up that much.

God 2009-11-28 14:17

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
They're all n00bs on this community. teheh

pagesix1536 2009-11-28 14:19

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Well, it is possible there's some issue going on, I do see a lot of forum postings from folks that just have weird booting issues...but there's usually a reason for it (memory card inserted that it doesn't know how to read, or someone messed with an init script, or maybe someone did an "rm -rf" on the /etc directory). Granted some are maybe related to issues with the device/OS load from factory, but if it's self inflicted....damn, just stay out of the console prompt and save yourself some hurt.

floffe 2009-11-28 14:28

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krystof_k (Post 397595)
I've the same problem. I tried to flash it using NSU, but it left all data and settings in phone. Is there any other way?

Flash it as described in the wiki, user settings etc require flashing the eMMC card as well (see that page). Flashing this and the regular firmware will reset everything.

fabolousv 2009-11-28 14:45

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I tried to flash my n900 yesterday with
flasher-3.5 -F imagename -f -R
i thought it would reset my whole devices but my contacts were still there and my messages. also my usernames + passwords for several websites were still there .

fphillips 2009-11-28 15:07

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
You need to flash it with the eMMC image, not the fiasco image. See the wiki page above.

fabolousv 2009-11-28 15:23

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fphillips (Post 397691)
You need to flash it with the eMMC image, not the fiasco image. See the wiki page above.

I see but it says its only for pre-production models. and i dont have a pre-production model :)

wiebz 2009-11-28 15:38

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
you can flash the emmc image in retail unit aswell. I've flashed mine aswell but it didn't solve my random reboot issue:mad:

good luck!

maxppc 2009-11-30 16:38

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I see that emmc have version 1.2009.41-1
while the firmware is 1.2009.42-11

Is safe to flash that emmc on the latest firmware despite different numbers? I'm having production unit

christexaport 2009-12-03 23:27

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 397660)
I don't get it. How is everyone messing up Maemo so much in the first week of owning it?... to the point that they have to reflash the OS back to defaults? Might do you some good to stay out of the command line if you're messing it up that much.

Because most Maemo users are willing to test software and try things that will hose their kit.

johnnyt76 2009-12-11 09:53

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
hi all!

just need to pick this up. i want to send my n900 back to amazon tomorrow. is the flash with emmc image the fastest way to erase all personal data? or is there some kind of auto erase application out there now

thanx&greetz

JohnnyT76

kenroy112 2009-12-12 03:21

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
am getting ready to flash now, if i cant flash it am sending back this crap asap, this is serious flaw if i cant hardrest my phone in a user friendly way then this is a big failure by nokia. They need to provide us the software to do it like how is it for windows mobile phones.

christexaport 2009-12-12 17:29

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
There really should be a way to wipe and format on device. I'm sick of needing a PC to support my device.

Dave999 2009-12-12 17:53

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
You will never learn if you dont hit the wall :D

Aliwoo18 2009-12-12 18:16

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pagesix1536 (Post 397660)
I don't get it. How is everyone messing up Maemo so much in the first week of owning it?... to the point that they have to reflash the OS back to defaults? Might do you some good to stay out of the command line if you're messing it up that much.

Hi,
I'd just like to point out that (though I appreciate there are plenty of people who probably do mess about with things they don't understand), it's a little unfair to assume that's what's happened to everyone, there may be an underlying issue with the software or hardware. I got my N900 on Monday, barely used it til Thursday (I was waiting for my old number to transfer to my new contract), and last night (without having played with the command line or done anything else out of the ordinary), I opened the web browser, the phone began rebooting before it opened, and hung after "NOKIA" displayed on the screen, now you have to pull the battery to switch off, and when you try to boot it just sticks at that same point (when the five blinking dots appear in the center of the screen). I had experienced it rebooting itself a number of times previously but (being used to Nokia Nseries phones) I kind of accepted that as a flaw to be fixed in a later software update.
Anyway, the point is, I've done nothing to screw it up, so it's obviously got a bug in something somewhere, and mine probably isn't the only one in existence that's done it. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not criticising the N900 or Maemo platform (actually whilst it was working I thought it was fantastic), but I think it illustrates that it would be handy if it could be "hard reset" easliy, it might be all mine needs to get going but as it stands it's going to have to go back to Nokia (complete with the few contacts etc. that I have left on it and can't delete).

mikhmv 2009-12-12 18:43

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fabolousv (Post 397681)
I tried to flash my n900 yesterday with
flasher-3.5 -F imagename -f -R
i thought it would reset my whole devices but my contacts were still there and my messages. also my usernames + passwords for several websites were still there .

linux store most of settings in personal folder. If you want to remove rest of data than:
1. open xterminal
2. type: ls -a
You will see all files and folders even hiden. if you want more information type: ls -la |more
if in line first letter "d" it is mean folder.
Mozilla store all settings in folder .mozilla
3. for remove all data from broser type: rm -R .mozilla
it will remove all mozilla settings. when you will start browser next time it will be like new.
most other programs store settings in similar folders (.name)
Just remove them and reboot.

flash which you did remove all installed by you programs but don't remove settings

good luck

mikhmv 2009-12-12 18:48

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
remove all seetings and personal files:
SEE EDIT
but be carefull with it. It will remove even pre-installed maps


EDIT: probably will be better:
rm -R $home/user/*
At least one person tried (rm -R $home/*) and it didn't work.....

msa 2009-12-12 19:20

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ioioio (Post 349601)
On a n810 that's a soft reset. A hard reset would be to reflash.

um, no.
a hard reset is a hard reset and a reflash is a reflash. both are completely different things.
hard reset is restarting a device after disconnecting it from the power source.
reflash is reinstalling its firm/software.

if a hard-reset via holding down the power-button does not work, then taking out the battery is a hard reset for the n900.

kenroy112 2009-12-13 00:29

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I flashed mine last-night it took me a while thought cause number one it doesn't work with windows 7 64bit so I hand to use xp mode and secondly you have to hold down the "u" key on the phone.

hani1400 2009-12-13 07:25

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Update your firmware to the same one. download and install Nokia's firmware updater.
That will reinstall the OS from zero... My glitch got fixed
Go here: http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-...oftware-update

christexaport 2009-12-13 12:46

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
I'm a bit confused. Is there any way to return the device to factory condition that wouldn't require the Xterminal? I have a loaner device I need to return, and want to learn to swipe it clean, but preferably without CLI. Is this possible? Evidently there is some user data preservation implemented. Can we turn that off so it is wiped too?

bsving 2009-12-13 16:14

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
The rm -R $home/* for removing all personal data should be on some sticky note or something. This is essential information for everyone returning, selling or giving away their devices.

fnordianslip 2009-12-13 16:28

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
This doesn't mean your data is gone, it just isn't easily accessed through the file-system. If you're really concerned about personal data, incineration is probably your best bet.

Edit: I wonder if the image for flashing the eMMC fully overwrites the eMMC's flash?

hani1400 2009-12-13 19:44

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 425527)
I'm a bit confused. Is there any way to return the device to factory condition that wouldn't require the Xterminal? I have a loaner device I need to return, and want to learn to swipe it clean, but preferably without CLI. Is this possible? Evidently there is some user data preservation implemented. Can we turn that off so it is wiped too?

Dude! read my post ^ this is exactly what you want
It will be like the first time you turned it on. EVERYTHING will get wiped off!

bsving 2009-12-13 20:01

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hani1400 (Post 426024)
Dude! read my post ^ this is exactly what you want
It will be like the first time you turned it on. EVERYTHING will get wiped off!

One catch, it does not support Win7. You have to get the command line tool if you have Win7.

hani1400 2009-12-13 20:32

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
try to run it in xp mode.
right click on the .exe and then click "properties" and i think "compatibility" and tick the "run in xp 32bid mode" or something like that.

ppriyank 2009-12-13 21:53

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
ok i have to return my phone back to nokia usa tomorrow...so i did the (rm -R $home/*) thing on the x-terminal, and now my phone does not turn on...i turn it on, and i see the nokia logo, but that's about it, the phone turns off after that...WHAT DO I DO???

Random 2009-12-14 07:39

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Just tested, Nokia Fw updater will not wipe the personal data from device, tapped phonebook snd my 799 contact was there!!!

Random 2009-12-14 07:40

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Just tested, Nokia Fw updater will not wipe the personal data from device, tapped phonebook and my 799 contact are there!!!

captainqtp 2009-12-14 23:44

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Random (Post 426772)
Just tested, Nokia Fw updater will not wipe the personal data from device, tapped phonebook and my 799 contact are there!!!

Which I actually kind of like.... I don't mind deleting separately

christexaport 2009-12-15 05:07

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
So the N900 can't be swiped...

bsving 2009-12-15 20:25

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 428372)
So the N900 can't be swiped...

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_t...MC_in_the_N900

Done it, it works. (Should definitely be an option on the device itself, but maybe one will come later on)

cpitchford 2009-12-15 20:27

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Some UK N900s are running a version of the firmware that is NOT available on tablets-dev.. Version 203.2 seems to be a UK thing, but I'm not sure which other regions might use it.. Either way, you can't download it from Nokia so reflashing is changing your device..

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6878

Feel free to comment in order to try to convince Nokia that they should stop messing the UK about with firmware releases

mikhmv 2009-12-15 20:50

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Remove all date and return phone to original settings:
1. Download and install Flasher (http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware). I used Linuxx32 bit version on Linux 64 bit without problem. On linux you will need extract flasher, it is not necessary to setup. For windows read link.
2. Download on computer Images from site: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php . You will need Vanilla image (RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin) and PR_combined (RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin or on your choice).
3. Fully charge the battery (IMPORTANT!!)
4. Unplug the USB cable from the device.
5. Turn off the device.
-----Flashing USER space ----------------------------
6. Execute the following command (in linux you have to be root!):
* Windows:
Code:

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
* Linux
Code:

./flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
Debian based Linux (e.g Ubuntu)
Code:

flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
7. You will see something like:
Code:

Image 'mmc', size 241163 kB
        Version RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.41-1.VANILLA
 Suitable USB device not found, waiting.

8. Plug Phone by USB to computer and wait until will get message that flashing finished. After this phone will reboot by self.
-----------Flashing ROOT---------------------------
9. Fully charge the battery (IMPORTANT!!)
10. Unplug the USB cable from the device.
11. Turn off the device.
12. Execute the following command (in linux you have to be root!):
* Windows:
Code:

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
* Linux
Code:

./flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
Debian based Linux (e.g Ubuntu)
Code:

flasher-3.5 -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R
13. You will see something like:
Code:

Image 'mmc', size 241163 kB        RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
 Suitable USB device not found, waiting.

14. Plug Phone by USB to computer and wait until will get message that flashing finished. After this phone will reboot by self.
15. enjoy by clear phone.....

P.S Check file names for images! They can be different for different regions and language settings. I don't know it. One Image should be Vanilla and second PR.

mikhmv 2009-12-15 20:55

Re: How to hard reset a N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ppriyank (Post 426241)
ok i have to return my phone back to nokia usa tomorrow...so i did the (rm -R $home/*) thing on the x-terminal, and now my phone does not turn on...i turn it on, and i see the nokia logo, but that's about it, the phone turns off after that...WHAT DO I DO???

Sorry!!!
Look my post for Flashing. At least I did it.
Look like I made mistake. Need command:
rm -R $home/user/*


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