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claesbas 2009-10-17 09:34

[Implemented] Set bootscreen video... Easier.
 
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Lets collect ideas on how we could easily administrate alternative boot splashscreens ...

LINK BRAINSTORM: http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._splashscreen/

I am not sure how this is made in Maemo 5 but on my N810 there is a 'Home' menu with:
  • Select applets...
  • Applet seetings >
  • Set background image...
  • Set theme...
  • Calibrate screen
  • Help

Im guessing its kind of similar menu options on n900..?

Could we just add "Set boot splashscreen..." which opens a dialog box with the list of the current video/images in /usr/share/hildon-welcome/media . Buttons in there could be Add and Delete. You add a file to the list and the tick them on and off so you can have your own playlist of images or video file.

Thoughts?

konttori 2009-10-17 10:41

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Good idea. Make that as a control panel applet.
Also make another to allow changing font and fontsize on the device.

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 11:46

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the videos or images should also be able to set in a certain order:
first play this movie: nokias hands
then play this movie: ...
and so on...

claesbas 2009-10-17 12:23

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349486)
the videos or images should also be able to set in a certain order:
first play this movie: nokias hands
then play this movie: ...
and so on...

Good Idea. Maybe just som arows like this for order..

claesbas 2009-10-17 12:45

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I am no developer at all and Im just fumbling in the dark here.. but it is now started. You developers who know the system please fill in whats do able and whats not.

I personally don't like the idea that a .deb theme changes my background and boot video. A theme is icons and panel graphics. A background is a background. And boot screen is a boot screen. "I would like to be able to have this theme, that background and those two boot screens".

b-man 2009-10-17 14:51

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i might be able to give it a try :)

although i might need more detailed documentation for hildon-welcome :p

claesbas 2009-10-17 14:54

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Great! Should I add this to some feature request or brainstorm function? (to make suggestions and developing communications easier..). If you need any help with something graphic oriented then just ask..

b-man 2009-10-17 14:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claesbas (Post 349594)
Great! Should I add this to some feature request or brainstorm function?

that might be a good idea ;)

claesbas 2009-10-17 15:46

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Ok, I will do that. Just registrered in garage I think I have to wait for the login info to get sorted. I will try again later..

I made a quick icon and added a screenshot for control panel entry..

link to png: http://castus.dnsalias.com:8080/shar...bootsplash.png

b-man 2009-10-17 21:11

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nice! :D i´ ll start working on the applet tonight and tomorrow to see what we can come up with :)

christexaport 2009-10-17 21:30

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is it okay if I post this on MF? And who should I credit for the work on the platform hacking?

claesbas 2009-10-18 00:48

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 349896)
is it okay if I post this on MF? And who should I credit for the work on the platform hacking?

you can write away chris

I had some trouble with the brainstorm on my n810 with uploading files.. I will give it another try tomorrow on my desktop. But here it is for now http://maemo.org/community/brainstor..._splashscreen/

I really respect your coding skills, makes my silly pixels just feel like a cherry on a cake.

looking forward to see some progress

claesbas 2009-10-18 10:52

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Hmh, I can't figure out how to upload more than one file to brainstorm. It seems to replace the last one I uploaded. Is it broken or am I doin something wrong?

b-man 2009-10-18 20:38

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Here´s what I´ve gotten so far :D
(thanks to qwerty12 for getting selection in the plugin sorted out)

http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot1.png
http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot2.png
http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot3.png
http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot4.png

now i need to get the rest of the basic elements (add/remove/move up/move down) applied and figure out a way to have the applet interact with hildon-welcome. :)

claesbas 2009-10-18 20:43

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wow! beautiful! :D great work.. have you been able to get any documentation on the hildon-welcome stuff?

b-man 2009-10-18 21:10

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I found the package info page and the source repository witch i think should help.

claesbas 2009-10-18 21:25

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ok cool.. Im thinking of going hardcore and try to install the SDK and all what that means just to be able to get more involved in projects like this.. gonna try that ubuntu vmware image and see if it works for me.

Bundyo 2009-10-18 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by b-man (Post 350598)
Here´s what I´ve gotten so far :D
(thanks to qwerty12 for getting selection in the plugin sorted out)

now i need to get the rest of the basic elements (add/remove/move up/move down) applied and figure out a way to have the applet interact with hildon-welcome. :)

You can have multiple boot videos, so its probably better to use the multi-selection mode?

b-man 2009-10-18 21:49

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Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 350647)
You can have multiple boot videos, so its probably better to use the multi-selection mode?

The screenshots above are mostly just to get a feel for what needs to be done ;) But the main goal is to have multi-selection mode fully functional by the first beta release :)

b-man 2009-10-18 23:25

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Multi-selection widgets up and running! :D

http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot5.png
http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot6.png

claesbas 2009-10-18 23:32

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is "bootsplash" an official word for this type of intro video? :)

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootsplash

claesbas 2009-10-19 10:44

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Perhaps we should name it something more userfriendly like; "Manage welcome screens", bootsplash has a geeky ring to it.

Andreas Klapper has suggested the word Bootscreen. I vote for "Bootscreen" only in controlpanel.

claesbas 2009-10-21 12:37

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If a Moderator sees this maybe this thread could be moved to Brainstorm forum. And change the topic on this to "BRAINSTORM: Set bootscreen video... Easier." ..

sjgadsby 2009-10-21 12:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claesbas (Post 353808)
If a Moderator sees this maybe this thread could be moved to Brainstorm forum. And change the topic on this to "BRAINSTORM: Set bootscreen video... Easier." ..

It is done.

pelago 2009-10-21 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claesbas (Post 351083)
Perhaps we should name it something more userfriendly like; "Manage welcome screens", bootsplash has a geeky ring to it.

Andreas Klapper has suggested the word Bootscreen. I vote for "Bootscreen" only in controlpanel.

How about "Boot animation"?

joppu 2009-10-21 15:22

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I doubt that Nokia would want anyone the change the official branded bootsplash to anything else :)

b-man 2009-10-21 20:32

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we did it on the N770, N800, and N810 - I doubt Nokia is going to have a problem with this on the N900 :p

pelago 2009-10-21 21:05

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Originally Posted by joppu (Post 354007)
I doubt that Nokia would want anyone the change the official branded bootsplash to anything else :)

I'm not sure what you mean. We don't need their permission to do this, do we?

claesbas 2009-10-21 22:03

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Originally Posted by pelago (Post 354004)
How about "Boot animation"?

Sounds good. B-man likes it too :)

I don't know if Nokia cares about this. Their nokia tune and logo combo sure is distinct on a bus or train but making users happy with their newborn child (or whatever) video welcoming on power on is far more important, I think..

Could this project go into a SSU if it turns out great? (I don't think this is such an important feature perhaps for nokia, but other community built stuff might be)

Texrat 2009-10-21 22:08

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The Nokia name is on the product, so there's no mistaken identity caused by a changed bootimation. :p

I never heard the official sentiment on this one way or another, but consider:

1) It can be done
2) No lawsuits or cease-and-desist orders

;)

claesbas 2009-10-21 22:14

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 354656)
The Nokia name is on the product, so there's no mistaken identity caused by a changed bootimation. :p

bootimation :) so silly I like it.

b-man, could you atlest hide that some where in your code ;)

Texrat 2009-10-21 22:16

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It should be a company and/or website name. Act quick-- I just searched and zero hits! :D

tonypercy 2009-10-21 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by claesbas (Post 349533)
I personally don't like the idea that a .deb theme changes my background and boot video. A theme is icons and panel graphics. A background is a background. And boot screen is a boot screen. "I would like to be able to have this theme, that background and those two boot screens".

Theming specifically doesn't change the boot video on the n900.

The background image, well the 4 background images strung together as one...yes a theme can and often will change those...so it would be nice for the option of preserving current background when choosing a theme.

It supports png and jpg, but though the browser supports aPNG, the background and I assume the icons presently don't either...if it does a hamster dance icon theme will be on it's way.

GeneralAntilles 2009-10-21 23:04

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Originally Posted by tonypercy (Post 354740)
The background image, well the 4 background images strung together as one...yes a theme can and often will change those...so it would be nice for the option of preserving current background when choosing a theme.

See bug #5366.

b-man 2009-10-21 23:37

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testing image index rendering in the selection menu - witch will be used for previews of different splash screens :)

(in this case they are system stock icons & index names for the corresponding icons :p)

http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot7.png

joppu 2009-10-22 04:35

Re: BRAINSTORM: Set bootscreen video... Easier.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 354577)
I'm not sure what you mean. We don't need their permission to do this, do we?

I thought brainstorm is for suggesting official features.

claesbas 2009-10-22 07:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by b-man (Post 354774)
testing image index rendering in the selection menu - witch will be used for previews of different splash screens :)

(in this case they are system stock icons & index names for the corresponding icons :p)

http://b-man.xceleo.org/images/fremantle/m5shot7.png

Thats great.. will that work on videofiles?

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Originally Posted by joppu (Post 354929)
I thought brainstorm is for suggesting official features.

well I don't know.. If "nokia should do it" is a solution in some brainstorms, then sure "community should do it" also is a suggestion. What is a "official" feature? already there?

qole 2009-10-22 07:27

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Just want to say that (almost) every time I see the boot animation it is because of a FAIL. So this animation isn't something I want to see, you know?

claesbas 2009-10-22 07:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 355046)
Just want to say that (almost) every time I see the boot animation it is because of a FAIL. So this animation isn't something I want to see, you know?

Well then Qole, you can untick the Nokia hands animation then i b-mans dialogs here. So this thing is also for choosing not have a animation. Will save you some terminal time :D ;)

qole 2009-10-22 07:44

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To clarify: You guys rock. This whole idea rocks. It's just a shame that my device (or its owner) has to fail for me to see it.


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