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c0rt3x 2009-10-17 11:42

Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
...if you believe this quote from Nokia Europe about the rumored N920 device:

Quote:

There are at the moment no plans of shipping out another Linux-powered device. The reason is simple. We donīt even know how the Nokia N900 will turn out on the market. This picture is simply a demo proto for the N900, but we made a choice to make the N900 a slider with a full QWERTY-keyboard. Iīm sorry to tell you that this new device is a fake. The next generation of N900 will be N950 that will have a touch-only-interface with a 3.7 inch capacitive touchscreen. You all have a nice weekend now, and the N900 will start shipping real soon!
Take this quote with a grain of salt, because its source is unreliable.

This statement is a responce from Nokia Europe about the existance of the rumored Nokia N920 device.


For further clarifications, this responce was about denying the existance of a possible N920 (or any other Maemo device in the near future), rather than announcing another Maemo device.

RichS 2009-10-17 11:45

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
[citation needed] :P

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 11:50

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichS (Post 349485)
[citation needed] :P

[source needed] :P

edgedemon 2009-10-17 11:51

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
That reassures me - for me a slide out keyboard is esential so I know that in a years time I wont be regretting my n900 purchase

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 11:57

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
a quick google search come out with nothing, so i think this is also a fake... like the photo.. xD

the next maemo device will NOT have a capacitive touchscreen..

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:11

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349491)
a quick google search come out with nothing, so i think this is also a fake... like the photo.. xD

the next maemo device will NOT have a capacitive touchscreen..

Did you know about the N900 one year ago? The statement quite obviously indicates there won't be a N900 successor within half a year.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:13

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349488)
[source needed] :P

There is no "real" source (it's just a statement), that's why I didn't provide with a source at all.

By the way, I edited the opening post to indicate the unreliable source.

RichS 2009-10-17 12:14

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
A quote implies you are quoting someone, who might that be?

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:15

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichS (Post 349485)
[citation needed] :P

The whole statement is a citation, right?

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:17

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichS (Post 349509)
A quote implies you are quoting someone, who might that be?

That's the doubvios thing about this. It's a person who claims to work for Nokia Europe (with no kind of proof of that, though).

RichS 2009-10-17 12:20

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
That's interesting because the phrasing is definately American:

"You all have a nice weekend now, and the N900 will start shipping real soon!"

Specifically this is not European English

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:23

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichS (Post 349516)
That's interesting because the phrasing is definately American:

"You all have a nice weekend now, and the N900 will start shipping real soon!"

Specifically this is not European English

I have nothing to do with that phrase, the only thing I did was to provide it, becuase I thought it'd be interesting for the community.

Now, let's bookmark this thread, and come back after 6 months to see if there was some truth about it.

frals 2009-10-17 12:30

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
And this just ended up in your mail, or can you supply a URL?

RichS 2009-10-17 12:31

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
This thread just needs closing its blatant rubbish and I dont care where the rubbish origionated its still rubbish.

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 12:32

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 349500)
Did you know about the N900 one year ago? The statement quite obviously indicates there won't be a N900 successor within half a year.

yes, I knew about the N900 one year ago... and I also know, that there WILL be a "N900 successor", a maemo-device (it doesn't need to have better specs) within the next half year, and this will be with a resistive screen, not capacitive.
But not resistive like you maybe are thinking at the moment...

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:35

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349523)
yes, I knew about the N900 one year ago... and I also know, that there WILL be a "N900 successor", a maemo-device (it doesn't need to have better specs) within the next half year, and this will be with a resistive screen, not capacitive.
But not resistive like you maybe are thinking at the moment...

As I said ealier, take this statement with a grain of salt. Did I ever say that it's true? The only thing I did was to share it, since I thought someone would be interested.

Ytr 2009-10-17 12:37

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

But not resistive like you maybe are thinking at the moment...
Yes, who knows they maybe have developed multitouch supersensitive resistive that will crush capacitive?

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 12:38

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
peace ;-)

....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ytr (Post 349528)
Yes, who knows they maybe have developed multitouch supersensitive resistive that will crush capacitive?

not Nokia themselves...

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:39

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ytr (Post 349528)
Yes, who knows they maybe have developed multitouch supersensitive resistive that will crush capacitive?

Yeah, who the heck said multi-touch is only possible on capacitive screens!? Steve Jobs perhaps?

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:41

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349530)
peace ;-)

....



not Nokia themselves...

Stantum has already finished the development of resistive screens with multi-touch. The only thing Nokia has to do now is to order it, if they consider it being worth the additional price.

Peace :D

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:45

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349523)
yes, I knew about the N900 one year ago... and I also know, that there WILL be a "N900 successor", a maemo-device (it doesn't need to have better specs) within the next half year, and this will be with a resistive screen, not capacitive.
But not resistive like you maybe are thinking at the moment...

By the way, since I'm new to Maemo I can't really say much about the N900's roots. One year ago, did you know that the successor of the N8x0 series would be the N900, or did you just know that there you be a successor?

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:52

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichS (Post 349522)
This thread just needs closing its blatant rubbish and I dont care where the rubbish origionated its still rubbish.

This thread might be whatever you call it, but you can't deny the fact that there lies some sort of truth (or thought) in almost all kinds of rumors, but of course, there are exceptions as well. But even if the rumors turn out to be completly wrong, then there have always been a reason why the rumors existed in the beginning, whatever the reason might have been.

As for Nokia, have they ever successfully kept a secret? Let's be honest here...

Ytr 2009-10-17 12:53

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSzO7DS48Bc
Yeah, if Nokia puts screen like this one on their phones it would be fantastic! The accuracy of resistive + multitouch.:D

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:57

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ytr (Post 349537)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSzO7DS48Bc
Yeah, if Nokia puts screen like this one on their phones it would be fantastic! The accuracy of resistive + multitouch.:D

Thanks for the link!

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 12:59

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frals (Post 349520)
And this just ended up in your mail, or can you supply a URL?

Sometimes lack of knowlegde is the reason for success, and in this case the lack of source improves the creditability.

How strange it might sound, it's true. Believe me, I know the source.

m3kyd 2009-10-17 13:10

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
c0rt3x you should be a politician

gerbick 2009-10-17 13:42

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Time will tell.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 13:44

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m3kyd (Post 349542)
c0rt3x you should be a politician

Can I ask why? Honestly I have no clue...

zehjotkah 2009-10-17 13:48

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 349564)
Can I ask why? Honestly I have no clue...

because you're talking ****, to satisfy to a certain level... ;-)

joke, I joke. please, please forgiiiive! -Eminem

f(x) 2009-10-17 13:49

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 349540)
Sometimes lack of knowlegde is the reason for success, and in this case the lack of source improves the creditability.

How strange it might sound, it's true. Believe me, I know the source.

So, lets me get this right.

If I said, you are going to die by the end of this day unless you decided to suicide before that or sending me your whole money and I didn't tell you anything that supports my claim here (The source in this case) Then this will get me a better creditably and you believe me, right Mr.Mayor?

In this case, feel free to believe me.
I will be happy to take all your money through paypal, if you don't mind :rolleyes:

range 2009-10-17 14:23

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 349510)
The whole statement is a citation, right?

Wrong. A citation names it source. You don't even say *where* you found that, much less who that is from.

So I'm just assuming you made that up.

NvyUs 2009-10-17 14:50

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
just got this from my secret contact

"Hi I'm a Nokia Product Manager, Upon hearing the latest rumors and seeing fakes circulating on the web I thought I'd make a statement, We have plan's for no other Linux device within the next week but are working on the N1000 which will be controlled by blink gestures and making loud fart noises with integrated laser weapons to be used by troops on the front line of course this is in the early stages of development and is subject to change so you might have to make do with another maemo5 device after the n900 and then a maemo6 device coming late 2010 with a capacitive screen. Please don't try and trace who I am b/c I'm a dangerous murderer in my spare time"

i cant link my source sorry guys but you must understand i don't want to be killed

Ytr 2009-10-17 16:04

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
I've send a message to Nokia about this, let's see what they think about this...

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 18:25

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by range (Post 349577)
Wrong. A citation names it source. You don't even say *where* you found that, much less who that is from.

So I'm just assuming you made that up.

Let's think logical here. If my grammar skills are poor, how come the text is nearly perfect from a grammatical standpoint?

I'll edit the opening post further to clarify some thoughts and reveal some more facts where this came from.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 18:29

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 349591)
just got this from my secret contact

"Hi I'm a Nokia Product Manager, Upon hearing the latest rumors and seeing fakes circulating on the web I thought I'd make a statement, We have plan's for no other Linux device within the next week but are working on the N1000 which will be controlled by blink gestures and making loud fart noises with integrated laser weapons to be used by troops on the front line of course this is in the early stages of development and is subject to change so you might have to make do with another maemo5 device after the n900 and then a maemo6 device coming late 2010 with a capacitive screen. Please don't try and trace who I am b/c I'm a dangerous murderer in my spare time"

i cant link my source sorry guys but you must understand i don't want to be killed

The difference is that your text lacks coherence, while I clearly stated why Nokia Europe made this statement.

Quote:

This statement is a responce from Nokia Europe about the existance of the rumored Nokia N920 device.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 18:35

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ytr (Post 349637)
I've send a message to Nokia about this, let's see what they think about this...

Indeed it will be interesting to see how they will respond... Nokia is a huge company, and this statement was probably made unofficially (it might be proved completely wrong). I think this statement was only made to deny the N920, and by doing so they needed to tell some of the direction of their future plans, without revealing anything in detail.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 18:39

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f(x) (Post 349569)
So, lets me get this right.

If I said, you are going to die by the end of this day unless you decided to suicide before that or sending me your whole money and I didn't tell you anything that supports my claim here (The source in this case) Then this will get me a better creditably and you believe me, right Mr.Mayor?

In this case, feel free to believe me.
I will be happy to take all your money through paypal, if you don't mind :rolleyes:

Of course that was a joke, I thought that was obvious. Forgive me if it wasn't clear enough.

I just wanted to avoid revealing the source without ignoring any post in this thread.

Jack6428 2009-10-17 18:40

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
I don't know if it's real or not, don't really care, but my feelings tell me that whatever will the next Nxx Maemo device look like, it won't have a hw keyboard...on that i would bet

christexaport 2009-10-17 18:42

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
I thought the images of the supposed N920 had already been debunked. Well, if you guys didn't know, the writer at Nokiaport.de made the image in Photoshop just as an idea, and the world ran with it as a possible leak without checking with the source that was clearly watermarked on the image. Here's the entire story about that image to end all of the conjecture:
http://www.nokiaport.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=5379

Also, "plans to ship another device" aren't the same as other devices in development or existence. There DEFINITELY IS another device, currently going by the name N920, and its a variant of the N900, minus the keypad. I know of one person that is very honest and reliable that claims to have actually seen and used the N920, so I'm pretty confident in his claim.

c0rt3x 2009-10-17 18:44

Re: Forget about the N910 or N920 - N950 is the next real deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 349567)
because you're talking ****, to satisfy to a certain level... ;-)

joke, I joke. please, please forgiiiive! -Eminem

Sorry for my lack of clarification, obviously I failed big time in that department. I've somewhat updated the opening post, and my latest replies does explain the rest.

This responce was about denying the N920 (or any other Maemo device in the near future), rather than announcing another Maemo device.


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