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cheetos316 2009-10-19 19:19

Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Anyone else having a problem with Gizmo taking a LONG time to load? It stays on the "Starting XMPP" mode for at least 5 minutes before finally loading. And it takes even longer to exit. I am not running any other programs.

Is there anything I can do to help speed things along?

wesgreen 2009-10-20 02:03

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheetos316 (Post 351647)
Anyone else having a problem with Gizmo taking a LONG time to load? It stays on the "Starting XMPP" mode for at least 5 minutes before finally loading. And it takes even longer to exit. I am not running any other programs.

Is there anything I can do to help speed things along?

i found that the loading time depends on the wifi signal strength.

sjgadsby 2009-10-20 02:22

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheetos316 (Post 351647)
Is there anything I can do to help speed things along?

Many people forgo the heavy Gizmo client and instead use their Gizmo (a.k.a. SIPphone) accounts with Maemo's built-in SIP client.

Addison 2009-10-20 04:15

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 352154)
Many people forgo the heavy Gizmo client and instead use their Gizmo (a.k.a. SIPphone) accounts with Maemo's built-in SIP client.

I've asked around but have yet to get an answer on this.

Can Google Voice with a Gizmo account be used with the built-in SIP (rtcomm beta 2) client?

Thanks ahead!

sjgadsby 2009-10-20 12:35

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 352226)
Can Google Voice with a Gizmo account be used with the built-in SIP (rtcomm beta 2) client?

Yes. If you properly configure your tablet's built-in SIP client with your SIPphone (a.k.a. Gizmo) account information and point Google Voice at your SIPphone number using the "Gizmo" phone type, it will work.* Recent RTCOMM betas for Maemo 4 even include a "SIPphone" account option with most of the correct values pre-filled to make this task easier.

* Assuming your Internet provider doesn't block SIP, yadda, yadda.

wesgreen 2009-10-20 12:56

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 352509)
Yes. If you properly configure your tablet's built-in SIP client with your SIPphone (a.k.a. Gizmo) account information and point Google Voice at your SIPphone number using the "Gizmo" phone type, it will work.* Recent RTCOMM betas for Maemo 4 even include a "SIPphone" account option with most of the correct values pre-filled to make this task easier.

* Assuming your Internet provider doesn't block SIP, yadda, yadda.

for me the main reason to still load Gizmo before making a call is that, if i need to dial through a menu (an answering machine, for example), their touchtones work better than the rtcomm ones.

cheetos316 2009-10-20 19:15

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Also, does it take forever to make a call with Dialcentral? I dial but it takes forever for it to bounce back to my Gizmo account before it can even dial the number want to dial.

mrdally204 2009-10-21 03:04

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Why are you dialing from your gizmo account?

cheetos316 2009-10-21 17:15

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
It takes forever using Dialcentral. I dial from Dialcentral but it takes forever for the call to be sent to my Gizmo account and then forwarded to my actual call.

Is it pretty quick for everyone else?

Addison 2009-10-21 18:14

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 352509)
Yes. If you properly configure your tablet's built-in SIP client with your SIPphone (a.k.a. Gizmo) account information and point Google Voice at your SIPphone number using the "Gizmo" phone type, it will work.* Recent RTCOMM betas for Maemo 4 even include a "SIPphone" account option with most of the correct values pre-filled to make this task easier.

* Assuming your Internet provider doesn't block SIP, yadda, yadda.

I would love it if someone could direct me on a simple step by step to get this working.

I've just got my settings all wrong or something.

Like I call from my tablet, it rings my other tablet, I answer 2nd tablet and then it rings my home sort of nonsense. :D

I think my brain must have been leaking when going through the whole set up process. :(

I've got Dial Central working great on my end so I don't get why I'm having such difficulties doing the same for RTCOMM.

Thanks ahead to anyway willing to help me on this. :)

wesgreen 2009-10-21 18:24

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 354328)
I would love it if someone could direct me on a simple step by step to get this working.

I've just got my settings all wrong or something.

Like I call from my tablet, it rings my other tablet, I answer 2nd tablet and then it rings my home sort of nonsense. :D

I think my brain must have been leaking when going through the whole set up process. :(

I've got Dial Central working great on my end so I don't get why I'm having such difficulties doing the same for RTCOMM.

Thanks ahead to anyway willing to help me on this. :)

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Addison 2009-10-21 18:33

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Dude, I swear I have, for a couple of hours even. :(

291 pages of 25 threads per page on this and I can't seem to find that magic one which explains this in a way I can understand.

I was hoping someone knew the best one out there.

cheetos316 2009-10-22 19:33

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 354360)
Dude, I swear I have, for a couple of hours even. :(

291 pages of 25 threads per page on this and I can't seem to find that magic one which explains this in a way I can understand.

I was hoping someone knew the best one out there.

So what are your settings right now? It took me forever to finally get things setup too so I could try to help. Are you using Gizmo + Dialcentral or the built-in dialing client?

Addison 2009-10-22 19:35

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
I'm currently using Dial Central and everything works just fine for me.

I was hoping to try the alternative of using the built in RTCOMM beta 2 to see if that offered better features.

Thanks.

sjgadsby 2009-10-22 20:35

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 355833)
I'm currently using Dial Central and everything works just fine for me.

I was hoping to try the alternative of using the built in RTCOMM beta 2 to see if that offered better features.

The SIP client in RTCOMM isn't an alternative to Dial Central. It's an alternative to the Gizmo client.

If:
You currently use Dial Central to have Google Voice place free calls through Google Voice.
-AND-
You have Google Voice calling the Gizmo client on your tablet to establish your end of those free calls.
Then:
You could log into your account on the Gizmo web site, look at the SIP settings there, and configure the RTCOMM SIP client on your tablet with them. You'd still use Dial Central just as before, but you could uninstall (or just not use) the Gizmo client on your tablet. You'd be using the RTCOMM SIP client (Internet Call) instead.

Same Dial Central. Same Google Voice. Same SIP phone number. Just a different client.

Addison 2009-10-22 21:14

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Oh dear lord.

That's my exact setup the way you just stated. No wonder I was so confused. :(

I thought there was a way to only use "Internet Call" and not need Dial Central anymore.

Now I don't have Gizmo on my tablet but I do have it on my computer though I rarely ever turn my computer on. Is it okay to remove that software? I just used it to set up an account if I remember correctly.

Sorry for the weirdness before, I honestly thought that RTCOMM was an alternative to Dial Central.

wesgreen 2009-10-22 23:59

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
you don't really need Dial Central either. i just call from the gv mobile web page. works great.

Addison 2009-10-23 10:17

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wesgreen (Post 356012)
you don't really need Dial Central either. i just call from the gv mobile web page. works great.

Okay, I understand that much.

But hey, how do you make and receive phone calls then without Dial Central?

Thanks ahead!

Edit:
You only meant sending text messages, correct? Or can you actually dial out to someone from the GV webpage?

If so, I haven't tried that yet.

wesgreen 2009-10-23 14:57

Re: Gizmo takes forever to load
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Addison (Post 356288)
Okay, I understand that much.

But hey, how do you make and receive phone calls then without Dial Central?

Thanks ahead!

Edit:
You only meant sending text messages, correct? Or can you actually dial out to someone from the GV webpage?

If so, I haven't tried that yet.

Yes, you can call directly from the webpage. Log in to gv and try it. The mobile version loads super fast. The tablet sip app (rtcomm) will pop up when you receive a call, no need for the gizmo software. However, i can't get the rtcomm touchtones to work well, which is why i still have gizmo on the tablet, and patiently wait for it to load before i call out from gv. (Only if i need touchtones.) Their tones seem to be louder. There are several tutorials about how to set it up.


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