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Apoc 2009-10-22 07:04

Second Life Client on the N900
 
Second Life is open source so I know *if* it's possible, we could do it. The only question here is: Is it possible?

SL uses OpenGL 2.0 and I'm not sure how that translates to OpenGL ES 2.0. Obviously the client would need some major redesigns as the graphics are made for more powerful machines and the interface is designed for a desktop and a mouse. I already know how it can work to control it, and I could pretty easily whip up a shiny looking interface in PS, but I can't code it and so far don't even know if it could run on here.

So before I start asking for people who can code such an awesome feat, I'd like to know if it's even a possibility.

So does anyone know if the SL client is compatible with OpenGL ES 2.0 coming from OpenGL 2.0?

Does anyone know if the N900 can finally bring SL to the mobile realm?

:D

zehjotkah 2009-10-22 07:09

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
is the second life client open source?

parasight 2009-10-22 07:14

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
The client is open source. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Get_source_and_compile
Not sure how this would work on such a small screen though..

Apoc 2009-10-22 08:01

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by parasight (Post 355027)
Not sure how this would work on such a small screen though..

A very good question parasight, by getting rid of all interface options and making a lot of the control gesture based it actually becomes quite do-able. Of course there will always be the issue of a small screen, but that is a trade off of having it on a phone or MID. And having it on a phone or MID has been requested a fair bit in the past. And I for one would *love* to have SL running on the road using TMO's super fast 3.5G connection. :)

parasight 2009-10-22 13:47

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
A possible option could be the realXtend client. Their previous client was based on the Second Life client so you could log into Second Life too. I think they are currently developing a new client with Qt but I'm not sure if you can use with Second Life. There's some info here.

I think there was some talk about a mobile client for realXtend at some point not sure though.

Apoc 2009-10-22 20:05

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by parasight (Post 355367)
A possible option could be the realXtend client. Their previous client was based on the Second Life client so you could log into Second Life too.

A good idea, but I was actually considering talking to Modular Systems about their Greenlife Emerald Viewer, since it's a very popular client made by a very adept bunch of coders. It has many features not available in the everyday client and would be much appreciated to have both their current features and their forethought for what's useful in what situation.

Of course before I talk to them I want to know it won't be a waste of their time to have to investigate whether the platform is capable. I want a definite "Yes it will work with some retooling." or at least a "Yeah from what I've done with it, it should be capable." Hopefully one of those two answers will find it's self ITT soon. :)

r0eladn 2009-10-23 23:17

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
they still havnt renamed it to "first life"?

arsentiger 2010-01-15 22:29

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Seriously... even if it was just a text client... it would be awesome to have. I started to install all the stuff for the SDK and whatnot... and then I realized I didn't know what the heck I was doing and was like... Ummmm... >.>

dandiesel 2010-01-17 17:33

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Now that the Vollee system is no longer functioning we are without SL mobile.

Maybe this? Mobile Grid
Or this ? Sparkle IM

Could be ported. Even SLim...preferably not though.

For those in need of chat on the go, use Ajaxlife through your web browser.

We can live in hope. :)

popwar 2010-01-18 02:16

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
i played sl via vollee on my n95 so it should definetly be do able with n900

Apoc 2010-01-18 08:29

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Something like Vollee(streaming a full version of the client from a server over 3G) would be possible, but a lot less likely then if we can actually run sl *on* the N900 which does seem do-able, but it would need to be heavily modified to support the N900 better.

In Vollee's case we'd need a company with access to fast internet and lots of servers capable of running sl and down-resing it for the phone.. That seems kinda unlikely to happen again, at least it does to me.

slux 2010-01-18 08:37

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Was interesting to hear such a thing as Vollee had even existed, that was news to me. Too bad they never got the WoW-support out before folding. :P

How well did it work with Second Life?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 479385)
In Vollee's case we'd need a company with access to fast internet and lots of servers capable of running sl and down-resing it for the phone.. That seems kinda unlikely to happen again, at least it does to me.

Yeah I wouldn't hold my breath but things are moving in that direction a bit on the desktop now that OnLive & co. are being hyped so maybe it might find it's way back to mobile too.

Apoc 2010-01-18 08:44

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slux (Post 479395)
Was interesting to hear such a thing as Vollee had even existed, that was news to me. Too bad they never got the WoW-support out before folding. :P

How well did it work with Second Life?



Yeah I wouldn't hold my breath but things are moving in that direction a bit on the desktop now that OnLive & co. are being hyped so maybe it might find it's way back to mobile too.

Vollee worked, however if you complained about lag on the PC client you were doomed on the vollee client, but you had access which is more then most promises made so far.

As for OnLive, whatever happened to that promise of coming soon in winter 2009? ;)

ArnimS 2010-01-18 15:42

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dandiesel (Post 478364)
Now that the Vollee system is no longer functioning we are without SL mobile.

Maybe this? Mobile Grid
Or this ? Sparkle IM

Could be ported. Even SLim...preferably not though.

For those in need of chat on the go, use Ajaxlife through your web browser.

We can live in hope. :)

If anyone here uses sparkle client, start a topic on http://GetSatisfaction.com/genkii to discuss N900 option. Iphone and Android users are already represented there.

Horlics 2010-03-15 04:48

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
If still interested you might want to check http://slxslchat.slx.cc/

This guy's written a client that allows in-world chat via a text interface and done it in two parts, a transport that does the communication and a front-end user interface.

I am guessing it's not too difficult to get the transport running on the N900 so this then becomes a nice little project in creating a UI.

Also, it seems the transport doesn't have to be on the same machine as the UI, so if you have a server on the Net somewhere you could run the transport on that and keep the N900 component nice and light.

Could be a good fast way to get a sparkle-style app running on the Nokia.

TiagoTiago 2010-08-19 01:00

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
search Youtube for "N900 Naali" (no quotes), not avaible to the public yet but seems promising

silvermountain 2010-08-19 01:06

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0eladn (Post 356928)
they still havnt renamed it to "first life"?

I'm even more surprised it hasn't been renamed "No Life" :)

TiagoTiago 2010-08-19 01:53

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by silvermountain (Post 791239)
I'm even more surprised it hasn't been renamed "No Life" :)

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of WoW

TiagoTiago 2010-08-27 05:25

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
btw, for a text only client, you can try http://textsl.org , it's made for the visually impaired but if you can see you can use it too. It works kinda like a MU*

xxxxts 2010-11-13 10:02

Re: Second Life Client on the N900
 
I saw this on the TV show The Office and I didn't actually think it was real... but I would love to have it on my N900.:p


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