Fuelpad for Fremantle
 

Fuelpad 0.82 is now available for Fremantle in extras-devel . I am not one of the chosen ones, so I can't test it myself on N900. Does it even install? I would be really glad to hear usage experiences on the device.

This is a quite direct Fremantlelization of the Diablo version. For those who don't know what Fuelpad is, I refer to the garage home page http://fuelpad.garage.maemo.org/. First public versions of Fuelpad were released in the beginning of 2008 and it has been available in extras repository from about the beginning of 2009.

Some things to note:

• Fuelpad uses libgtkextra-x11-2.0 library for drawing the statistics reports. Both libgtkextra and Fuelpad are optified.
• The fuel database (sqlite3) is stored in /home/user/MyDocs and it is open all the time. Could someone suggest a better place now that MyDocs can be exported via USB?
• The database import wizard starts from the second phase for some reason. After proceeding from the first, you can come back to the first phase (the preview of the file)
• garage bug tracker is used https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=554

And did someone ask for screenshots? You'll find two taken on the SDK in garage:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...fremantle3.png
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa...3-settings.png

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It installed nicely on N900 and after a quick test it seems to work at almost correctly.

I had some problems with database import and I don't know how it should be done correctly. I got all the information in N900 only when I manually replaced database in N900 with old database from the N810 and the I made also export in N810 which I then imported in N900. Copying database did not make the trick and it was also impossible to use menu to open different database.

Import of csv file from N810 started from first phase. Import of database was not possible at all or it didn't work.

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My Diablo install of Fuelpad had similar results on my N800 when trying to import (had to reflash) my fuelpad.db from external memory card. I kept getting 0's in columns. For now I'm maintaining a CSV at home but will attempt an import again somewhere down the line-either after a couple more updates are released or I get tired of remembering to enter on the PC.

Otherwise, really enjoy the application and find it essential for my personal interest in record keeping.

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Thanks! That's good news. Did the Finnish localization work?

I completely agree that the database import is not that intuitive. It is not meant to be used for importing data which was exported by Fuelpad (the complete database is not exported). I'll need to work on the import since I can understand that many people have used other tools before and want to import their old data.

At this time, I left out the possibility of opening a different database on purpose, but that will be included later.

Do you mean that the database open from the menu did not work in the N810 version?

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What do you mean by "trying to import my fuelpad.db"? You can either import a csv file or open an alternative database file.

If you like, I could look into your csv if there are really problems in reading it. You should find my e-mail address with the following command in xterm on your device

Thanks!

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Yes Finnish localization worked right away.

I thought that copying old database from N810 to N900 should bring all my data to N900 so I got little bit confused about how to make it happen. From the user perspective replacing database file with one containing some data should just work. There should not be any need to use open database from the menu.

Nope. N810 has been working correctly for me all the time. I meant that importing database was not possible in N900 fuelpad. I tried to use Import functionality for database file from N810 because I couldn't find any other way to get that data. And only way to get driver and car info was to replace N900 database file and then importing csv file from N810 fuelpad. After that I could see all old data in N900. Replacing database bring only car and user information.

There might be some problems with "rajaa näytettävät" (sorry don't want to boot tablet to see correct English name for this) menu entry. I don't know how it should be used because there doesn't seem to be any way to activate the selection. There are just AND/OR selections and 'Clear' button for the different information. I would like to get rid off some of the tabs in main screen. I don't like pan screen left and right.

Any way this is excellent program to keep up with fuel consumption. Thanks a lot for making it.

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Good!

Did you check if you actually had the data also? Your current car might have been the default one with no data. Changing the car requires to press the button beside the car selector, not just selecting it.

"Filter records" in English (not a word-to-word translation to Finnish, as you see). Yeah, I know, it's not very well working. Filtering and importing are the two things that I am not very happy with myself either.

You mean the table of your fuel records? As you remember the Diablo version had a dialog of choosing which columns to show. I did not implement it yet for Fremantle but that I'll do that.

I did it for myself and at first thought I would not release it publicly. I'm glad I did - you can't be thanked too often!

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If I remember correctly I didn't change car so it's very possible that it was a reason why I didn't seen any data.

When you have implemented those few missing features I believe that it will be ready for the public.

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If the file doesn't need to be accessed with the file selecetor /home/user is the correct place.

If the file needs be accessed with the file selector then there is no other place. There could be some kind of import/export interface which would copy files between MyDocs and the actual directory.

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After updating N900 SW I install Fuelpad again and noticed following small visual problems:

1. Application manager shows small icon for Fuelpad and it's name starts with low letter 'f'.
2. After installation there is no icon for Fuelpad in the menu. It appears only after reboot.

Everything else seems to work correctly. I would say that after fixing those smaal issues it is ready for extras-testing.

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Thanks for reporting these. The first one has probably something to do with fuelpad.desktop file and the next one with the postinst script. I haven't touched the desktop file for a long time. From the postinst script I only have removed the maemo-select-menu-location call for Fremantle. I do have a call to gtk-update-icon-cache with

I'll have to check if this needs to be changed for Fremantle.

Before I noticed your message, I submitted a new package version (0.82-fremantle4) to autobuilder. It should be now available in extras-devel. Quoting the changelog:

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I did some testing with the new version and it seems to work correctly. It has now all the features I need. Thank you very much!

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One thing that I have been a little worried is the big default font size in the main table. You only see a couple of rows. Is it tedious to pan a long table from top to bottom? Using a mouse in scratchbox is really a PITA when you have, say, fuel fills for 100000 km.

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To get the big icon and the pretty name (capital F) you need to change the debian/control file.

XB-Maemo-Icon-26 now should be a 48x48 pixel icon. And with XB-Maemo-Display-Name you can set the app name to "Fuelpad".

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Font size is very good in my opinion and with quick scroll it takes only seconds to scroll down the list but I have records only for 25000 km at the moment. But it should not be a problem as in the media player I have few hundred albums and it's very fast to scroll down the whole list. Faster you move you finger faster the list scrolls.

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Thanks Conny. For some reason I had thought that the pretty name is specified in the desktop file. No wonder it never worked! The big icon thing I just realised when the application manager suggested to update Fuelpad.

I updated these and will send an updated package soonish...

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Thanks. I suspected that kinetic scrolling might be that good.

I think that I may have to buy an N900. It has been a while since I spent over 500 euros to a phone (a Nokia 2010 back in 1996).

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jlu, consider adding yourself to this list of developers waiting to get a device.

Frank

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I don't consider myself a "core member". The only problem of me getting a device is to convince my wife that every hobby costs something and instead of buying us a new LCD TV, I'll by myself a new toy (as my wife and children call my tablets (N800 & 770)).

But: Frank, thank you for your confidence in me.

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You have 1751 downloads and counting. I plan on using it, the only reason I'm not is that I still have my Palm phone with an existing app on it, once I get my N900, Palm is gone and Fuelpad is in. I think that your application will be very popular moving forward.

Frank

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I released a new package version. There are no code changes. Quoting the changelog:
Hopefully this could be the version that I can promote to testing. Now all the features from the Diablo version should be there except for a few minor things which are not relevant to Fremantle. I'd like to go on with other things.

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Tested new version and only thing is that icon after installation is still missing.

Documentation says that "gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/hicolor" should be run in postinst script.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...ebian_Packages

edit:

Noticed also that it's not possible to use file choose dialog to open original database in '/home/user/' when I opened old database from mmc1. (And it seems that mikkov already mentioned it in this thread). And the more standard path for database is probably: '/home/user/.fuelpad/fuelpad.db' . So maybe hiding open database button is a good idea.

edit2: removed backup stuff as it altready seems to be included.

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I have always had that in the postinst script. I wonder what's the problem then. At least it wasn't the 48x48 icons that were missing before.

Yes, I thought it could be problematic. The thing that had to be done was to move the database out of MyDocs since an open sqlite3 database will be corrupted 100% sure if the partition will be unmounted. Maybe the approach mikkov suggested earlier (possibility to "export" and "import" the database file to/from MyDocs) could be used.

Seems that the little things still left would be best solved with a device of my own. Sigh...

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Ok. I don't know whats the problem could be then.

Using Import would most probably be best for the ordinary user to import old database in the new device.

To get the loaner device you should put your name in that wiki page mentioned in this thread earlier. If I remember correctly Quim mentioned in some thread that Nokia is working on that list. Fuelpad is so good already that you should have one for you.

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I agree. The import facility could be used to import either fuelpad database or csv files. In case of a fuelpad database, the user needn't to specify anything (the columns etc.). The imported database would be merged with the "master" database file which would always be located in /home/user/.fuelpad/fuelpad.db. The export facility could export the database either as a csv file or as a fuelpad database (in its native sqlite3 format). How does that sound?

I think that changing the import/export functionality this much will have to be made into a new version (possibility of bugs and need for testing). For the current 0.82 version for Fremantle I'll have to think of a simple solution. The simplest would be removing the database open button. The old N810/N800 users could be then instructed to copy the database by hand to the right location. The new users needn't to know anything about the location of the database.

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I think that this would be the best way to go.

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First of all and most importantly, thank you for sharing FuelPad with us!!!

Maybe I'm still missing something, but where is the "right location" to copy my large FuelPad DB from my N810 to on the N900. Can you also give me a hint where I can find the FuelPad SQLlite DB file? (I'm not seeing it in all the .* files in the home dir)

Or is an export from the N810 -> import into N900 the only way at this time?

Thank you!

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Sorry for taking this long to answer, I haven't lurked around here for a while.

The default location on Fremantle since package version 0.82-fremantle4 is /home/user. Before that and on Diablo the default database location was /home/user/MyDocs (which is the root directory seen in the file manager at least on Diablo).

Export from N810 and import into N900 is not suggested since you won't get information about your cars and drivers and you must export/import a car at a time.

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Btw. if gconftool-2 is available on N900, you can check the database location with

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Hi,

Thanks for continuing supporting this application. I find it great.

What I've done as a small workaround, in order to have all my entries for the last couple of years, was to:
1. modify all settings on the N900 version to be equal to what I have on my N800.
2. Export the db from my N800 in a csv file.
3. Copy the csv file on my N900.
4. Import the file in N900's fuelpad.

I have only one driver and car and this was the only way which was successful. Previously I've tried to copy and replace the fuelpad.db file but it didn't work.

Hope it helps.

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Thanks for that. I am happy to hear that you have been successful in using the export/import method. However, you should be able to replace fuelpad.db. Just remember that you might have to change the current car and driver from Settings on N900. Otherwise Fuelpad shows the data of the default car that may have no records at all.

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A new package version (0.82-fremantle6) is now in extras-devel. I removed the database open button as discussed before. I also removed the apply button in the toolbar, which caused some confusion in choosing the current car. So the car is changed now automatically. I did a minor change to the postinst script but since the installation worked fine in scratchbox before this I really can't tell why the icon was not updated in the device before rebooting. These are the only changes compared to 0.82-fremantle5.

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Hello all Fuelpad users! The only thing holding me from promoting Fuelpad to extras-testing has been the problem with the icon not showing in the application launcher before rebooting. I just realized that this is not probably my fault at all: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=484152.

Fuelpad has now been in extras-devel for quite a while and no bugs have been reported nor has there been any discussion here on t.m.o. related to any problems with it. I will therefore promote it to extras-testing shortly unless someone has good reasons not to.

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I have nothing against promoting to extras-testing, works fine. But I don't get the logic behind the info bar bottom of the screen. Is it supposed to work in the situation that you start using fuelpad after your cars mileage is above 0? I have a car that has about 20 000km and if I put that figure to km (first entry), calculations go really wrong. Am I doing something wrong here?

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The bottom bar shows the distance YOU have driven. So if your first entry is 20000 km and the last 25000 km, then the bottom bar shows 5000 km. Or doesn't it?

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thanks, silly me, should have tested more before posting. Had some entries with km=0 that messed things up.

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A new release 0.82-fremantle7 is now in testing correcting the critical bug which mikkov reported and helped me to debug and correct. So bold testers, thumbs up.

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feature request:

typing only distance, not total kms would automatically calculate correct total mileage.

but works really fine as it is (no issues in QA checklist) so I voted for it.

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Thumbs up.

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It should be possible to implement but I believe that your total mileage will drift after a few trips unless of course you check and correct the total km. Consider adding this as a feature request in the garage page https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?at...54&func=browse, otherwise I easily forget it.