Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Hi! I've tried googling and reading various threads here to figure out how to get a bluetooth mouse (the original Microsoft Bluetooth Mouse, no less!) working with the N900.

I've read that page about /etc/bluetooth/main.conf, removing the profile "input" from the list of disabled profiles and restarted bluetooth, even the whole device. Thanks to this change I am able to search and find my mouse in the Bluetooth setup user interface, but pairing won't work - it requires me to enter a PIN code or it won't let me pair.

I've tried entering 0000 and 4102 (from the bottom of my mouse) as pin codes but it always fails to authenticate. Googling some more generic Linux bluetooth instructions, I run into command-line instructions for using hidd to connect to a Bluetooth mouse or keyboard, but hidd is not present on the device.

I've tried pushing the "Connect" button in my mouse in various combinations of trying to pair etc. but no difference..

If I just downloaded the bluez stuff and compiled hidd in Scratchbox would I perhaps be able to get somewhere with it? :)

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Your problem isn't with the HID bluetooth profile, your problem is with pairing a bluetooth device with your N900. You should be able to pair the mouse with the N900 just like with other devices, entering the PIN code, etc.

It probably just has to do with the order that you're doing things. Just keep trying...

Can you pair other devices, like a keyboard?

(EDIT: I have successfully paired my stowaway keyboard with the N900 after a few tries, but I haven't tried a mouse.)

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I just paired a Logitech bluetooth laser travel mouse using the code "0000" (haven't however hacked around to enable the mouse).

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Not sure what model # the "original MS BT mouse is, but their 5000 model has a "hardware-managed" mode which would likely need to be triggered by a PC connection first. That could possibly eliminate the need to pair using a passcode.

I'd recommend looking for basic BT connection support on MS's site if you haven't already. Here's the link for the 5000 alternative pairing as described above.

FTR, my BT GPS uses 9999, not sure if anyone uses 1234 at all. Keep stab stabbing away!

HTH

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Let us know if you are able. Lets see the iphone do that :)

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I have tried the following:

- pincodes 0000, 1234, 9999, 00000000000000 on the N900

- Pairing the mouse to my Macbook running OS X 10.6; no go. It doesn't require me to enter a pin, but it fails to "connect" to the mouse even though it does discover it ok. No explanation for the failure is given.

- Pairing the mouse to Windows XP running inside VMWare on my Macbook, after having installed the Intellipoint software for Windows. I was given the option of "No passkey" and it paired and worked just fine.

The mouse is Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer for Bluetooth (phew!), which is, I believe, the first Bluetooth mouse Microsoft did.

By the way, the Microsoft support article posted was mostly related to using the mouse with the Microsoft-supplied Bluetooth transceiver, which I also happen to have but which is obviously not very useful with the N900.

Basically I think the problem is that it's microsoft.. I'll try to get another kind of BT mouse for loan from somewhere.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Im considering purchasing a N900 and a bluetooth mouse sounds promising, especially when Nokia is considering the N900 not just a phone but a "mobile computer"

Please update and let us know if the bluetooth mouse will actually functions properly ie. right, left clicks and copy paste, thanks.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

If I could find a BT mouse that wasn't stupidly expensive, I'd buy it and try it out. But I just wouldn't use it enough to spend a lot of money on one. The N900's keyboard is quite good, and it has a good touchscreen, so I only tested my N800's BT keyboard once, as an experiment.

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All hail 30-day return policies! (just avoid places that now ding you for a restocking fee) Of course, it needs to be local/B&M.

@toninikkanen Ahhh, I skimmed over it just enough to miss the MS-branded transceiver. Yep, give it up to good ol' Redmond to change the playbook and do something different. Sounds like that model is a no-go for the N900.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I had modest expectations of getting it work, since it did work with an Apple iBook back in 2004 when I last used it - so it has to be at least mostly standard. But I guess not completely :)

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I have some bluetooth eqipment from acer that uses 4444

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Any updates on bluetooth mouse support from you N900 users?

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I seem to recall that the very first MS Bluetooth mouse came out before BT HID was really finalized (or something like that), and it basically would only work with the BT usb transceiver that it came with. I think also the BT transceiver did not support pairing with other BT devices.. So it said 'Bluetooth' but basically wasn't compatible with anything else bluetooth. I remember buying it years ago from Best Buy and returning it within a day... (I was looking for a mouse that would work with my laptop's builtin BT transceiver)

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Yeah I don't doubt.. as I had trouble getting the mouse to work with my current Mac. Used to work with the '2003 model, maybe at that time their Bluetooth stack included some hacks to make the Microsoft mouse work.

Anyway still trying to borrow a more standard BT mouse but no luck yet. I don't want to buy one :)

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

If someone can confirm they got a certain brand and type of mouse to work I guess I could shop around on eBay or somewhere if I find one for cheap.. ?

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Didn't tested yet with the lastest FW, but a improvement here is very unlikely.
Last time I tried the BT mouse only works inside the browser, and only if you activate the cursor (slide your finger from the left border of the screen to the right).

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

VDVsx: Do you mean the mouse doesn't work at all, or the pointer isn't visible? Because they promised us that a mouse should work in Fremantle. But they hide the pointer by default, for obvious reasons.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

The mouse connects fine and the device receives and processes the events, but without the pointer you can't see if everything is working ok, but I doubt that this will work inside hildon. Works inside the browser as I explained above.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

are you sure thats not a "lost in translation" way of talking about the "mouse mode" in the browser?

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

No, a mouse should work on the N900, you just need to make a visible pointer.

See Bug 1897.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I read a review on Nokia Experts that only the letters functioned on the BT keyboard they used, not the numbers. Did you try the number row?

Thanks!

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Here are my 2 cents - I tried to get my N900 to pair with a logitech V470 mouse ( http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mi.../3287&cl=us,en ).

The good news is that it pairs with the N900 with no problems after having modified the bluetooth profile config file (http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsu...tooth_profiles) and after typing 0000 for the bluetooth code.

The bad news is that it doesn't seem to function with anything - I tried it with the browser after having made the cursor/pointer appear and I also tried it within Debian LXDE. Once paired, moving the bluetooth mouse seem to do something since the cursor responds by either moving instantly to the edge of the screen or disappearing however it's not at all coherent with the motion made by the mouse and is therefore useless as a pointing device.
I'm disappointed since I was wanting to turn my N900 into an X-windows station (bluetooth keyboard, mouse and VGA output !)

Has anyone confirmed that it's possible to connect both a bluetooth keyboard AND mouse at the same time?

-=AC=-

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

this is bad news, can anyone else confirm that the mouse pointer movement is or isn't correct? If it isn't correct, we need to reopen that bug.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I will try it with my Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 as soon as I will get my N900.

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Hi! after tweaking my n900 bluetooth config file i got my logitech bluetooth mouse to pair succesfully and connected, but it really does not work. i tried with Q3A and cursor moves but it just goes fast from side to side. so maybe little more tweaking it could be possible to actually use it?

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

I can. Generic mouse pairs, connects, and acts just as AloxeCorton described. Scroll wheel makes screen vibrate as if clicked.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

For you that say that the cursor just goes fast from side to side: try to move it very slowly. I tried with MS BT Mouse 5000 and I managed to get the cursor moving just where I wanted, it just had to be done very slowly and cautiosly. The mouse buttons or the wheel didn't do anything for me, but I can imagine that it woudln't be a very big issue for someone who really can do the coding to get this to work?

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hmm, could it be that the screen registers as a mouse, and they have basically maxed out the sensitivity setting?

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Anyone got an idea where I could change that setting? I could try if that changes anything.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

so...
cant we cheat microsoft mouse to connect direct to a maemo device n900 or n810

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

i guess this may help huh?
http://klausler.com/msbtkb-linux.html

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Hi,

Did anyone have a better luck with Bluetooth mouse?
The 1897 bug is still reporting as fixed.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1897

Thanks,
Trek1701

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

Don't be silly, they are just teasing you. It never worked.

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

dont know why bug is reported as "fixed" when its not working, after firmware update i cant connect to my bt mouse at all. even after tweaking the config file

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

You can report it in the bug report

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Ahem... v470 user too, any progress?
I'd like to see it for open arena or quake 3...

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I have made a comment to the bug report but no answers :mad:

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

A little bit closer. I really want to get bluetooth mouse working. A cheap bluetooth mouse can be bought for approx 8 pounds / 10 dollars. It would be good for Quake3/Duke3D/OpenArena.

Here are my findings:
Install the bluez packages for Maemo.

Go into /etc/bluetooth/main.conf
Find the DisablePlugins line and change it so that "input" isn't in it.
Restart bluetooth service.
stop bluetoothd
start bluetoothd

Find and download Ubuntu bluez-compat armel deb package
Open the deb archive and remove the "hidd" arm binary.
Copy the binary to the N900 (i.e. to /home/user ).

Click on the "discoverable" button on the bluetooth mouse.
Go into N900 bluetooth settings, and set it active.
Within N900 bluetooth settings, add new device and pair with the mouse (key 0000 usually)
On the xterm, run:
hcitool scan
You should see the mouse and its mac address.
If you don't then click the button on the mouse to put it into discoverable mode again.

On the command line, run the following:
./hidd --search

This searches for and connects to the bluetooth mouse.
Once connected the white bluetooth symbol on the desktop goes blue.

Certain applications respond to the mouse, although there is a major
sensitivity issue.

You can activate a mouse icon in the web browser by swiping left-right.
Vulture's Eye game responds to mouse. Probably others too.

There is a problem with mouse sensitivity. The mouse icon goes up to the
top left corner or disappears. Using the touch screen sometimes brings the
mouse icon back.

So.... the sensitivity issue needs resolving.
Also.... why isn't "hidd" binary in bluez packages?
I would have expected it to appear in maemo-bluez-compat

Hope other people can take this forward. (I'm no expert).

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

New bugzilla thread here: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9389

Re: Bluetooth Mouse (Microsoft) with N900
 

anyone able to connect a bluetooth muse?
is there any possibilty to connect a bluetooth mouse and keyboard at the same time.

Regards