Hmm...
 

Hmm... sorry if it is a repost, I haven't been to this site in a while

(image requested to be removed by Nokia)

Aya fermy, welcome back. Now howabout a context for that pic? :)

BASTARD! I was going to post that. I will get my revenge. (Hint: you may want to have someone taste test your fruit punch.)

WOW! What is the source of this image? How recent is it?

Here is some speculation based on what I can see in the image:

-Perferated areas on bottom half of device on either side appears to be location of microphone and speaker. This may be a better device for VOIP functions or perhaps actually includes a phone.
-Antenna (or is that a stylus sticking out?) in top left seems to indicate cellular voice and/or cellular data connectivity
-The 3 buttons beneath the rocker appear to serve a double function as a scroll area. Should be very nice for web browsing.
-Appears to be a bit bigger than the 770 due to increased area on right side of screen. Would have been nice if they had added a few general purpose buttons on that side as long as they are are increasing the width.
-What is the silver thing in bottom left of screen
-The "hump" for the USB, headphone and power connector appears to be gone. Yay!

Very nice indeed. SUch a shame that the d-pad looks as bad as 770s. I just hope that they have at least lowered the middle button a bit. But otherwise, could be also just a mainstream version of 770 (like ... not the prototype anymore that the 770 is).

Power cord appears to be on the right, which is much more sensible place than the bottom. Also, it seems to sport stereo output (nice for watching movies!).

Could also be a fake as well. You never know. Where did you spot that image?

1) He calls himself Santa Claus because he wants to keep his job.
2) A few minutes before fermunky posted it. I asked him to ask Santa if the 330 was supposed to be a crappy replacement for the 770. I got a better answer than I hoped for. I
3) I was thinking stereo speakers but I didn't ask.
4) Webcam from what I understand.
5) Didn't ask.
6) Not every device is perfect for everyone. I like the lack of buttons on the front because of fat finger syndrome.
7) Looks like a screen protector not on straight. Didn't ask.
8) Yes it does. The current hump is not really a bad thing when using a case though.

Wow that one is ugly :-) And besides, buttons on right side would be very practical too. So much wasted empty space. Again product which completely ignores left-handers just like the 770. I hope it is some experimental design from early times which was later superseded by N770 :)

Yes, the hump in the top-left is a web cam. This image was taken and sent to me only moments before I posted it. I for obvious reasons am not releasing how/who/where I got it from though :) All I can say is I am excited... Oh, and it is so far being dubbed the 870.

Wow, it looks pretty sleek. I'm betting we'll see a memory and cpu boost from this thing along with some other nifty features. Can't wait to see what comes of this.

Just wondering if the software (OS) of these new and "old" 770 are compatible (propably not?), and if the 770 support will stop in favor of this 870, as it was called in earlier post? Does this mean that I should sell my 770 now on eBay before they become "obsolete"? :confused: In order to do that I need to know before "general public"... ;)

Anybody have any idea when this would become available? I think that they should target for this Holiday season... and what would be the sale price?

Although I am not positive yet, I would assume it will be the same OS. Think of it as having one PC with one OS, and then just buying a new PC with the same OS...

This is exactly what I thought. Somehow reminds me of leftovers from the 50s and 60s I occasionally find in my parents' attic.

And I do hope it will not be bigger than the 770, though it looks somewhat clumsier on the picture. Also, the rounded corners indicate there's no more slide-on cover, which would mean no screen protection, no power saving funktions ...

Anyway, lets wait for the technical specs.

BTW: The "thing" at the bottom left corner could as well be the progress bar we see when booting... it could simply be thicker on this device.

Actually. If you look at the edges, there's a clear plastic lip. I believe that's a clear plastic cover which most likely snaps off and goes under the unit (so you can still see the screen when protected unlike the current 770). The mystery square on the screen appears to be a sticker stuck to this clear plastic cover. The little divots/speaker holes all over it are a BAD idea. They'll fill with grime really quickly (internet users have sweaty hands).

If that's a web cam and it's integrated, I don't like it. It looks like a nubby antenna for cellular access to me. It's also in the way when you hold the tablet whatever it is.

I'm not much of a fan. If anything's gonna stick out (except for the power/USB cables), have it stick out of the top.

Hoping for more news on the 670. (not a typo)

Hmm Indeed
 

Am I missing something?? What are you guys on about? I dont see anything.......

I think it is a webcam, here is the image after some playing with the light:
(image requested to be removed by Nokia)

-i

Doesn't the stylus have that precise notch? ;)

looks ugly! Here's hoping its a proto design.

Ok guys, Nokia just requested to have the image removed (you all know what that means ;) ). As a favor, please don't repost it for lawful purposes.

Thanks.

Damnit. That meant the grime-gathering more-integrated-things-to-stick-out-and-break thing is real.

(Don't get me wrong. I'm so happy with the 770 I'm definately going to buy the next generation... providing it doesn't run CE and have a billion useless peripherals sticking out)

*EDIT: Good luck, Engadget has a hold of this story.

TBH, I'm more interested in improvements to the 770's software: stability, robustness, features, UI improvements for the small, high-resolution screen etc.

Although if such a successor were released, we don't know what would happen to 770 updates.

I know I have only used the 770 for about 2 months, but I have yet to actually use the buttons on the front. The tops ones, yes, but not the front ones. Might have to try them sometime.

I would be surprised if they didn't use the same OS, as that has taken a heck of a lot of work to get to this point. Just like in the win world, at some point, you need more hp to run the programs than the system has - maybe that will happen in the next few years. If so, I can pass it on to my wife and get a new one. :D

They haven't caught up to me on the legal request yet. I got the image from Engadget, so...

I thought about it. As a journalist, I got the image from a public source and can name that source. It's out in the wild and there's no stopping it. However, if they WANT me to take it down, I'll do so IF they put me under NDA and send me a unit for review so I can post the review simultaneous with their official release. I think that's fair. What do you all think?

If you want to see the removed image, my .sig file is right there ;)

So Mike, do you think Nokia will give you yet another free Internet Tablet to roast? :D

bah, i hope not
 

the fact alone he hasn't explored all of the facets of the distributions, but feels justified in griping about everything, says he doesn't deserve the chance.

and my backup for this statement was his question about "the red dot" at the top of the display.

Same here. Bought the 770 in March and hardly ever use the 3 small front buttons. They're inconvenient to reach, whereas my index finger is exactly where the top buttons are and my thumb rests at the navigational pad.

I'd be very surprised if this kidney-shaped new thing really did not have the buttons at the top (although I have to admit from the picture it looks as if they're gone).

I agree. I would rather have the top zoom and full view buttons, than the front buttons. It is very disturbing to not see them. Hopefully, they are just out of sight in the picture.

I tend to use the "menu" key quite a lot, mainly because just about the first thing I do after opening the browser, is hit the "full screen" button. It's a shame there's no way to make Opera open maximized by default (at least, I haven't found a way to do it), or the possibility to remap the buttons (ditto). I'd really like to be able to remap the "full screen" button to "menu", provided I could get apps to open full screen by default.

I use the power button (to go into offline mode to save battery power), the zoom buttons extensively, and the fullpage one almost as much as the zoom. PERFECT positioning. The only button I use on the front of the unit is the Home key so I can quickly check the clock to see what time it is.

I might use the directional pad if it werent using the same switches as the other buttons. It reminds me of those old tactile feedback IBM keyboards minus the 'KA-CHUNG!' noise. The switches under it need to be less clicky (think of something like the old nintendo/sega directonal pads)

The scrollbutton idea is neat considering the thing *is* an internet tablet...

I use all the side buttons quite regularly. I remapped the cursor keys to scroll and page up and down, the home button to quickly go to the home screen to use the google search, and the escape button to go back as well as stop loading pages.

So I'm glad they kept them there.

Whoops, wasn't aware how bad Nokia doesn't want images out yet. I apologize for this. But I do not regret it :)

I use the front buttons *all the time*, more so that the top ones actually.

You can browse through an entire session of RSS news reading with mobile Bloglines using just your left thumb, while having breakfast or pretending to take notes in a meeting or whatever with the other hand :-)

I like the front buttons. Only reason they are infrequently used is because I'm lefthanded (but trying to teach myself to use the stylus righthandedly...handwriting will be utterly impossible like that, but i don't think that feature is for me anyway,right or left...)

Ugly is subjective. I like its retro looks.

Good points.

Cane is interesting to read, but his PMS has to be taken with a grain of salt. It's obvious to most of us, I'm sure, that regardless of how Nokia packaged the 770 it was an enthusiast's device and needs to be considered in that context. If anyone has issues with that, blame corporate marketing, not the device itself. Sheesh.

is this real? I cannot do it because it appears that clicking the D-pad center button just removes the bottom bar then maximizes the right frame. I have to doubleclick an RSS to let the program load it on the right frame.

I am talking about Bloglines 770. Is it the same app you are talking of?

Request for picture removal can mean anything. Maybe they just don't like their logo on unapproved image. But most probably this is hurting sales no matter it is true or not. Even if it is some early 870 sample the real thing might be many months away. Remember how long we waited for 770 to actually hit the shelves after bold annoucment? Half a year or more. And still releasing this picture might cause some people here to just wait and not buy current model (which is quite good).

And imagine how pissed off they (Nokia) must be if this is really fake, next thing is half year or more away, and the sales stop now due to this?


But anyway, back to the picure, call me conservative (which I am) but I'd wish only improved internals without much change to current design. Maybe some additional buttons on other side which might became handy for games and also for left handed people (like me). Best would be to have identical buttons on left and right with some configuration which side is primary. The other side then becomes a bonus (like pageup/down if primary side scrolls one line, right mouse button in center etc.)

I agree fanoush, these are my options:
1- buy gps pack, 199$ (this price is half of the 870)
2- wait and buy the 870

and now, with this photo, it's clear for me, option 2; for nokia without this photo it's clear too, option 1 now and them option 2....

No. I use the regular Bloglines web site, in its "mobile" mode (no frames), showing only feeds with new posts.
This works very well in Opera with the up/dows keys remapped for scrolling, while the right/left keys still select links.
This way I press "left" to select one of the feeds in the list,
use up/down to read the posts,
at the bottom "left" again to select the "update" button then "enter",
and I'm back to the feeds list, and so on.