UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

EDIT: the event is confirmed. Jump to http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=49

Hi, an idea we are cooking these days:

Maemo community developers and user experience professionals meet 3 days with 3 main goals:

- Improve the usability and visual appeal of great Maemo apps.

- Improve the UX documentation for Maemo developers.

- Get a critical mass of people interested in pushing forward UX meets Code activities online and face to face.

Idea: December 4-6, Barcelona. About 50 people invited.

We are lining up the right UX professionals from the Maemo team, Forum Nokia and developer partners.

Who is interested?

Please provide in this thread

- Your maemo.org profile making sure that there one can find info about or links to your current projects and your interests in Code or UX.

- If you are more into Code, a link to the app hosted in maemo.org, either under Fremantle packages or OS2008 Downloads.

- If you are more into UX, a link to wherever your work can be seen.

If we have a good response we will confirm the event. Forward this to your colleagues working on great stuff!

For budgeting and also practical purposes we will keep the number of participants around 50 people even if we get more requests. The criteria will be defined more or less by fast response, travel costs, community involvement and of course Maemo excellence in Code or UX.

General feedback about the hackfest itself is also welcome. We will share here more news.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

This is COOL! Nice idea.

Wish I could, but I'll be tied up during that time. Unfortunately. :(

Tim

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

GREAT idea quim!

http://maemo.org/profile/view/lcuk/

http://liqbase.net

involvement in the maemo cocreation workshop prior to the summit was an amazing experience and we managed to express a great many ideas and potential applications and experiences and it would be great to expand a little more on these.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I am definitely interested:

http://maemo.org/profile/view/anidel/

http://maemo.org/packages/view/xournal/

Aniello

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

+ 1

http://maemo.org/profile/view/vdvsx/

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/bluemaemo/

I partially share Lcuk's thoughts, I loved participating in the co-creation session and also would like to see further brainstorming/development of the concepts :) .

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Hi,

I'm interested, too.

http://maemo.org/profile/view/prometoys/

I'm a media science student and interested in UX and Usability since a long time. But I can't present anything "real" except that I had classes in university about this topic and a handful reported bugs related to UX (which all received a wontfix/low priority)

But maybe there is a place for a newcomer, too?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

http://maemo.org/profile/view/wazd/
http://tabletui.wordpress.com/

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I'm interested as well, although I don't think Conboy is really appropriate as it does not have that much UI...

http://maemo.org/profile/view/conny
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/conboy

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I'm interested, too :)

http://maemo.org/profile/view/framstag

The topic interests me in general (one of the reason for going maemo was the chance to work on useability aspects on low resolutions devices). I'm also permanently trying to tune my applications to make them more useable on the device and detecting more possible applications and use cases. Getting and giving feedback would be <wow>.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

+1

http://maemo.org/profile/view/andy80/

http://code.google.com/p/creditchecker/
http://code.google.com/p/qmediashare/

I'm interested too! Even if I've not release much UI code at the moment (because I'm working on two base library [creditchecker and qmediashare] I'll use in my next Maemo application) UI design is one of my preferred topic.

Last year in Firenze I had the possibility to attend a 6 month course about "Human-Computer Interaction" and this made me understand a lot of things about how UI should be designed and how not.

Using the N900 I've seen that lot of applications really need improvements about UI and I'm not talking only about community software, even Nokia software :)

I hope to see you all in Barcelona!

p.s: as you already know, I'll still be in Valencia in that period, so I think I'll be able to find a cheap travel option (it's something like 23€+23€ with RENFE), but if someone would like to share a small apartment for that weekend it would be nice!

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

http://maemo.org/profile/view/javispedro/

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/drnoksnes/
(and OpenTTD and DOSBox, but UIs are not mine).

I don't know if I'm really the right person to discuss about UX ideas, but at least I can travel on foot to the event! :D

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Duh, can't get a Visa for that period. :( Too bad, It would have been interesing to get UX collaboration on some 'real' projects now that I established a stable development workflow on Fremantle (I'm OK with code, but design/UI is killing me :) )

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Hi,

After not being able to attend the summit, if this comes to reality I think it's a nice spot to share and absorb some good UX experience. Specially now that we are deeply doing some Maemo apps again.

Profile : http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=17
site : www.marceloeduardo.com

Experience: Leading a team of 15+ Designers doing a lot of apps / experiments for QT / Maemo5 :) . Old and really old apps for maemo:
- (simple pen UI for the old Doom port )
- ( Games: Blocks, Battlejeweled, crazyparking, etc)
- ( Apps: old video center, Canola1, canola2, Carman)
- ( Apps: Contrib. to first irreco, full design: SmartHome (there corporation) - S60, S40, Mobile web + Maemo )
- ( More coming soon! ) :)

BR

Marcelo

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

we need to attract more people... should we give this thread more visibility?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Hi

I'd be interested.

Profile: http://maemo.org/profile/view/zaheerm/
Site: http://zaheer.merali.org/
App in fremantle: http://maemo.org/packages/view/zoutube/

I mainly work upstream in GStreamer and Flumotion but I have quite a few maemo/fremantle projects in the offing including a weird circular clock desktop widget, port of Flumotion (I got it to already stream fine, now working on a Hildonized UI), MaemoSpykee (a Spykee robot controller), Nahjul Balagha (a port of the iPhone app of the same name), Zoutube and a few more.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

don't know if the Quim intention is to attract ANY people. He posted only on maemo-developers mailing list, not on maemo-community or maemo-users and he didn't blog anything on Planet Maemo.

I've no problem to prepare a post on my blog, let's try to understand what Quim really wants.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Surely he wants to attract as many coders (interested in improving the user experience of their applications) and UX experts as possible :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I've decided to make some image to promote the event with:
http://i051.radikal.ru/0910/9f/ee3552ac3b9d.png
http://s61.radikal.ru/i171/0910/b4/e5c011039fce.png
which one?

P.S.: Bous track :)
http://i017.radikal.ru/0910/1f/bd069200c7fe.png

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Hi, I introduce myself: I'm a second year student in the Barcelona Faculty of Informatics, a Faculty that is part of the well known Technical Univesity of Catalonia also known as Barcelona Tech.

http://www.fib.upc.edu/en.html

Will be possible to have some students from BFI looking arround on the hackfest! I think it would be a great oportunity to learn about the free software world and to introduce maemo platform to students.

What do you think about it?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I really like the last one, but how about mantaining the same style and using Maemo logo and/or something related to Barcelona? :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I leave, of course, the last word to Quim who is organizing this event, but in my hopinion it would be great :)

It's very good that some students are interested in Maemo without having to tell them that Maemo exists.

Actually I'm studying at Universidad Politecnica de Valencia and here nobody seems to know anything about Maemo. For this reason I'm organizing a Maemo conference here with the help of a UPV teacher, hoping to make lot of students to be interested in developing for Maemo platform.

I really hope you can come to this hackfest :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I've been considering that myself (spamming the alumni message boards ;) ), but with the hackfest being limited to 50 people, and considering the few people interested in Maemo development there (that I know of!) ... better wait a bit while the news travel over Maemo circles first.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I haven't blogged yet because of the TENTATIVE. And the TENTATIVE depends on the first reactions. They are very positive so far and I will wait until Monday, back to the office, to decide if we can confirm it.

The group of 50 people neds to be filled with people experienced already in Maemo development (hence the requirement of having stuff in OS2008 Extras or Maemo 5 extras-devel) or UX (hence the requirementof having visual stuff to show). We might have exceptions only if we are not overbooked and if we have budget.

But... this doesn't stop us (or you, penya barcelonina) of organizing more things around that. Presentation of Maemo 5 & the N900? Introduction to Maemo development? L10n of software or documentation to Spanish / Catalan? Primer Sopar de Germanor Tabletaire?

Keep the ideas coming. We will make the basic decisions next week.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I expect iIwill have a response by Quim but I think that if we are on Barcelona the summit will no have an extra cost because we are there. Isn't it?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

what we need to start translating maemo4 and maemo5 to catalan?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Please open a new thread about this. There are a few people already doing translations and I'll point them to your thread if you do that. Note though that I won't be of any help, I suck at localizing...

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

First i'll try to find some people on the faculty to help me with the task because i don't nothing about it.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

ouch... sounds like I don't match the requirements, since my application is not in Maemo repository yet, but it doesn't matter, I'm sure there are many more peple who deserve to come, before than me and I really want Maemo 5 to be improved :)

About the presentation, just to tell you, we (I and profesor Antonio Cano) are going to do it on 10th December, here in Valencia at Politecnica (if you remember, at the Summit I asked you some suggestion about how I could make students interested in what I'm going to talk about :P ). When we have more details, I'll create a little page on the Maemo Wiki with all informations (event will be open to all, not only for UPV students).

Let's continue spreading this event to all Maemo developers since they really have priority and then we will be able to get more people interested helping us.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

To tell you the truth: I don't know (but I will ask). Several people is asking these days the same question. For Arabic, Catalan, Turkish... Can you or someone please start a new thread in Development as this is totally off topic in this thread? Thank you.

On the other hand, if the event happens the host will be http://citilab.eu/

They have several rooms available with different sizes, including an auditorium for 400 people.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

if the 50 number of people limitation is only for the budget and you are all from Barcelona, I don't think you'll be a cost for them. Nokia in these cases sponsor travel and/or accomodation, but since you're already there you won't be a cost.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Andrea, don't make me laugh. You are a PyMaemo contributor, isn't it? If that doesn't count as proof of Maemo development knowledge... Besides, you are 400km away from BCN. It would be different if you would be in Valencia (Venezuela).

Of course it would be better if you have an app kind of working by December so you can benefit directly from the UX guys sitting next to you.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Quim, really, I wasn't bothering about it :)

Yes, I'm a PyMaemo contributor and yes I'm developing a library to get credit/sms informations from mobile carriers (I'll use it in my application) and I'm even working to qmediashare, a qt4-based library to allow sharing/uploading of pictures (just like the actual Maemo sharing plugins, but qt based and LGPL).

But... to be honest I don't have coded the UI part (yet), even if I've to code it as soon as possible, and I was just saying that maybe there are other people before than me deserving to come.

Anyway, as you can read from my first reply, I requested to come and I'll do my best to start working to the UI of my application, so stay tuned :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Andy :D
if you haven't coded the UI yet and have a backend, surely there is scope to discuss and talk about tying your code with a nice front end!

really, if you are happy in the bowels, stay there, keep with your mockup UI and talk about it.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

At the moment, only 13 people (counting Quim) have expressed their interest in coming to this hackfest.

Maybe we're still not enough to make Quim/Nokia confirm this event.

I wonder if this thing has not been advertised in the right way or if simply there's no interest from people.

Quim: could you wait 2-3 days more to take a decision and we'll try to spread/advertise this thing better?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I'll go for you! :D

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Yeah, same feeling, but I think the 50 participants limit also includes the Nokians and partners (correct me, if I'm wrong), so perhaps we're already with a good number of participants ;), of course more participants should be welcome.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Very interested :)

Profile: http://maemo.org/profile/view/thp/

UX-related posts @ http://thpmaemo.blogspot.com/
Screenshots of different gPodder versions @ http://gpodder.org/screenshots.html
Applications: gPodder (Extras, OS2008), Panucci (Extras-Testing, OS2008), Tennix (Extras-Testing, OS2008)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

So yes, there should be some Nokians

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

The number 50 is an approximation. We can include Nokians or not.

I was hoping for a wider response, indeed. Maybe the TENTATIVE makes some people wait, but it would be good to know whether there is other developers interested even if it's also in TNTATIVE mode as well.

I would email the developers with apps in Extras / Extras-testing if I would have the time. Then again, I believe most of them are in maemo-developers... but perhaps not following that close?

And what about the locals? What are you up to? Today we had a call with Nokia Spain and I was selling them the idea of doing something with a more local focus in combination with the UX/Code "global" meeting...

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

What about a maemo5 development masterclass? IT students in Barcelona would be pleased to go ^^ it's only an Idea i cannot ensure quorum.