New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

My 2009.41-13 powered N900 just announced that 2009.42.-11 was available, but only via NSU, and not OTA. Running NSU shows no available update. Anyone else with this issue today? Do I need the 'pro' version installed?

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

I'm afraid this is "just" a side effect of an internal release for wider testing. It's probably not for external distribution but I will ask on Monday. It's not just a matter of confidentiality: there is the legal aspect of releasing publicly GPL software (sources need to be provided) and extra technical work (NSU readiness since probably not all the Summit participants are Linux users with access to the regular Linux Flasher.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

I've got the same information and cannot find any way to download and install that firmware.

Any possibility to use tablet updater for that purpose.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

Don't worry too much about it, 42-11 is already out of date anyway and 41-10 (+ Andre's "fixed in xx-yy" comments) is good enough for testing things. Best to let people concentrate on making the release version as good as possible (once that's ready, if someone can find the time to push it to tablets-dev before waiting for sales to start I'm sure no one will complain).

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They do builds every week on friday anyway; this is not an extra step. The release was pushed to the 'Nokia System Software Updates' catalog, shows up in the updater being 8.2M is size. It will not install however, and tells you to use the NSU.

Of course the SW is down-rev from the tip; that is always true for an build. The teams are used to bugs and reports being cataloged based on version number.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

as long as they give me a fix for the application list that stops scrolling randomly, then I am fine (as the only workaround I know of is to restart) or create shortcut on the desktop and then delete them

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Another fix I have noticed is to install an applications (presumably one with an entry in the menu). Not sure if uninstalling will work too. Sorry for the off-topic post...

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Un/re-installing the last app also seems to fix it.

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restarting hildon-deskop works too. For example "killall hildon-desktop"

Maemo5 update 1.2009.42-11
 

I saw this update show up in the App Manager (Red Pill enabled). It says that the device needs to be connected to a PC? Has anyone updated to this version?

My N900 is running 42-10.

Re: Maemo5 update 1.2009.42-11
 

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33735

:)

Re: Maemo5 update 1.2009.42-11
 

Just wait for the production-ready firmware, which is 44-xx most likely. Stop asking about outdated internal firmware releases. The first number signifies the week of the year.

The amount of noise on the forum is becoming unbearable.

Re: Maemo5 update 1.2009.42-11
 

Easy buddy. I didn't know it was internal firmware. reading the above link to the thread made things clearer.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

I can confirm that 1.2009.42-11 is the software version that the current devices shipping are based on i.e. it equals PR1.0.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

Why are you shipping 4 weeks old firmware?
or does the meaning of the numbers change after feature freeze, i.e. 42 does not mean week 42?

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No, we don't. But we took that week 42 software built and kept on finetuning and improving it instead of rebuilding the complete stack for a new built.

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The 300 Nokia N900 devices we loaned in the Maemo Summit include software release from early October. This software cannot be updated with Nokia Software Update (NSU) even if NSU identifies the software we are shipping now i.e. 42-11. This is due to updates in the lower software stack in the pre-production models. People would need to use a special software that is able to update the lower stacks of the software of the devices. We are currently investigating whether and how we can enable this.

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when we do a software update on maemo, does it work like it does with symbian where you have a completely new (start all over) install back to factory settings so that you have to redo all the settings again, or is it like upgrading your vista to win7 where settings remain the same but you get the new software loaded?

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On Symbian 3rd Fp2/5th editions [every phone out in the last couple years] the upgrade process has UDP [User Data Preservation], so it keeps all your data...

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This is good. I have been using an e90 since it came out in july 2 years ago. So didnt know that.

That makes getting software upgrades much more palletable! :)

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Lucky users of a pre-production N900, just wait few days and you will have an update for your specific case.

Having a Linux laptop will make your life easier flashing the device entirely.

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Well, actually it's not just Linux anymore. As can be read from the flasher announcement, Windows, Linux and Mac OS X (both intel and PPC) are equally supported, when it comes to command-line flashing.

The announcement page contains links to download the flasher tool, but obviously you need a firmware data file before you can really make the tool useful.

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Hm, nobody told me that last night so I went ahead and did it[1] and it worked[2] anyway...

Lower software stack? My kernel is now more recent than the summit[3]

So what am I missing? Modem firmware (dare I dream of an early 3 SIM fix) perhaps?

[1] in a VirtualBox XP installation, which (after flashing and while waiting for the N900 to reboot) proceeded to crash and take the host machine with it. Ie, everything else that could go wrong, did.

[2] and I have the bug to prove it ;-)

[3] in fact this whole "week 42" business seems a bit fuzzy - if the summit version was week 41, the 28th of October would be week 44.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

Do routine Maemo updates need a reflash as opposed to simply updating things with apt? I'm sure I've seen a video with a 'Maemo Update' of only a few K (so, not the whole OS) appearing in the app manager.

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Most updates should be installable via the Application Manager, yes. They're known as Seamless Software Updates (SSU), and the Maemo team worked hard to make them possible during the time of Maemo 4. In general, full flashing from a computer via USB is expected to only be necessary for those "Gosh, installing/changing/deleting that was a bad idea!" moments, not for updates.

That said, this particular update is somehow unusual, obviously. I expect fanoush, qwerty12, and others are already quite keen on discovering what exactly the mysterious changes to the "lower stacks" were.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

only on old symbian devices you have to reinstall everything and redo settings after updating, newer symbian devices have user data preservation so no need to do anything after updates now.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

any news when we will get the latest firmware for the N900, that will solve the following:

1)- MMS
2)- Video call
3)- sms hand recognition.
4)- IRDT
5)-FM Radio
6)- &.......cant remember..

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

If you have one of the 300, DON'T use NSU unless you've backed up all your stuff - mine was reset to factory, which is annoying.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

No firmware update necessary. The FM radio works already.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

thanx,, what about the rest:

1)- MMS
2)- Video call
3)- sms hand recognition.
4)- IRDT

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

There are no plans at this time, but we've been throwing around the idea of email thumb print recognition.

Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

Well, yeah, it is generally expected for a firmware update to have that effect and you do get warned by the NSU software.

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It means feature freeze and branch happened on week 42. After that they have concentrated on bug fixing. The 11 is build number.

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Search the archives.
But in general it's unlikely to "quickly" implement this stuff within 3 weeks.

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(Removed bold as it hurts my eyes.)

It's always been Nokia's policy to release when it's ready.

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Is there anywhere the firmware update file available (summit version aka 1.2009.41-10) ?

Just for the case if the rollout version includes less functionality than we already have in the summit version?

So we update first, check if everything is included - ok. Stay this way.
If not, go back to 41.10 and get the necessary files to extract for 42.11.

Anyone has the firmware file for 41-10 anywhere?

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Re: New maemo 2009.42-11 SW out???
 

I'm pretty sure they haven't released 41-10 for separate download, and probably never will.

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If so - how to get a firmware file out of a running N900, then?

So you perhaps could make your own really full backup of your system - including everything.
Oh, I wish back the Sharp Zaurus times where a full NAND backup was available in the BIOS :D