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Reggie 2009-11-02 16:48

WordPy 2.0
 
Whew! I just experienced the power of WordPy 2.0. :D

Here's my mini review (fully created on WordPy 2.0): http://maemotalk.com/2009/11/02/testing-wordpy-2-0/

mece 2009-11-02 16:57

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Wow. Makes me want to start blogging... when I have my N900. Don't worry, I wont though.

jsmanrique 2009-11-02 16:58

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Really, really great app!

yerga 2009-11-02 17:04

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Cool! Thanks for the review Reggie, I'll take note of the suggestions.

Just a comment: Maemo WordPy is being renamed to MaStory (there's a package in Extras-testing with that name yet).
I know it will be confusing at first but I think it's a better name for the future and the coming events.

drm 2009-11-02 17:04

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Amazing graphics…
When will you add it to the Maemo 5 downloads???

yerga 2009-11-02 17:10

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drm (Post 363795)
Amazing graphics…
When will you add it to the Maemo 5 downloads???

For the graphics, kudos to Joshua.maverick ;-)

It will go to Extras when 10 testers give thumbs up to it. I think it's prepared for Extras, so let's see.

ARJWright 2009-11-02 17:27

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Ooooh, and here I wish I could play.

Yerga; any plans on taking MaStory/WordPy into a fully Qt app for the 3.0 version (really asking more so that I could get the app on my N97 than anything else)?

EDIT: yes, I'm biased as all get out towards MaStory/WordPy :D

yerga 2009-11-02 17:46

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 363805)
Ooooh, and here I wish I could play.

Yerga; any plans on taking MaStory/WordPy into a fully Qt app for the 3.0 version (really asking more so that I could get the app on my N97 than anything else)?

That is the plan.

I'm starting to learn C++ and Qt, so in one year from now I think that something can be possible. Let's say Fixed in Harmattan ;-)

Qt has some important advantages in this case, for example, is very easy to have two views, one with HTML code (like it's now), and other with real formatting of the text.

Reggie 2009-11-02 17:51

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Some more requests:
  1. bug on main page where second post appears twice as the latest post (see first screenshot in review)
  2. some typos on status of posts and comments: publish -> published and approve -> approved
  3. a default image resize width in the settings - dialing down to 500px everytime takes too much time
  4. any way to use standard html tags for text appearance like <i></i> instead of using spans?
  5. add comment date column on Manage Comments screen
  6. request for image watermarking feature -- superimpose a .png image logo on top (lower right or left) of image
  7. a neat addon is a video (youtube, vimeo, ovi, etc) embed option where you just specify the video id

Great work Yerga!

ymb 2009-11-05 23:27

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
first off, thanks for creating this (and also the S60 version).
Have you looked at PyQT or PySide for using the QT stuff with your exisiting code base?

and now some observations or enhancement requests;
* offfline mode
* default when starting up?
* store posts, drafts locally and then sync up (this works on the S60 version already?)
* use more "standard" icons on the post edit screen
* follow wordpress, media wiki, blogger etc conventions ( "globe with chain" is the insert link icon, bold is strong B etc)
* any way to get "tool tips" or text?
* remove publish icon. Change it to a menu option, and add a save as draft option as well!
* allow selection of blog when saving drafts or publish
current method only posts to whatever is set as default

dwould 2009-11-05 23:35

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
this is goog news. I love maemo wordpy, and have used it to edit my blog pretty much since I started my blog. really looking forward to my n900 and an updated wordp/mastory.

kryptoniankid17 2009-11-05 23:35

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 363794)
Cool! Thanks for the review Reggie, I'll take note of the suggestions.

Just a comment: Maemo WordPy is being renamed to MaStory (there's a package in Extras-testing with that name yet).
I know it will be confusing at first but I think it's a better name for the future and the coming events.

nice clean look. beautiful icons.

ARJWright 2009-11-06 04:48

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ymb (Post 366873)
* any way to get "tool tips" or text?

Just asking, no sarcaism meant - but why would you need tool tips on a handheld, touchscreen, finger-UI-driven device?

To my understanding, there's no mouse-over event being handled by the buttons, unless you are using an alternate input device.

Unless you are looking at the idea of doing a tap-hold on an icon, where that would show a tooltip - similar to the N97 and RIM Storm 1 models - in which case it makes some sense, but then it doesn't in that the icons would need to be designed to be simpler so that you could infer the meaning without text.

yerga 2009-11-06 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ymb (Post 366873)
first off, thanks for creating this (and also the S60 version).

You're welcome ;)
There's a small confusion lately about the S60 version, I have already seen it in some blogs, but the S60 version that I think people mean is Wordmobi, a different application done by Marcelo Barrios.

WordPy/MaStory hasn't a S60 version.

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Have you looked at PyQT or PySide for using the QT stuff with your exisiting code base?
Yeah, surely I'll write some application in PySide in the future, but my plans are to learn Qt on the C++ style.
Python has the advantage to be a fast language to code, but it's slower running, and the most important isn't officially supported by Nokia.
Qt in C++ will be the official framework in the future, and it has Qt Creator that is awesome.

The change to Qt in the application won't happen before of 2010 end, so I think I have enough time to learn C++.

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and now some observations or enhancement requests;
* offfline mode
* default when starting up?

I don't know what you mean with this.
MaStory will use the system state, if you're connected it will be able to use network features, but if you aren't it won't be able, you can use offline fetures in any of the states (connected or not).

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* store posts, drafts locally and then sync up (this works on the S60 version already?)

This feature is in some place in the roadmap (an eventually will be done). Now you can only save the posts locally, and publish one by one.

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* use more "standard" icons on the post edit screen
* follow wordpress, media wiki, blogger etc conventions ( "globe with chain" is the insert link icon, bold is strong B etc)

I know that some of the icons aren't very intuitive (for example the tags/categories or preview), but I think they aren't very difficult to learn.
Perhaps I should change all them, and create a better ones (a new challenge for Joshua.maverick ;))

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* any way to get "tool tips" or text?

Here I think similar to ARJWright, I don't see the necessity for tooltips. I think the UI guidelines also rejects it.
If something isn't completely clear, it should be improved without to use tooltips.


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* remove publish icon. Change it to a menu option, and add a save as draft option as well!
Why should be it changed to the menu?
IMHO it makes more sense in the toolbar on editing a post, but if you convince me, I can consider it.

To save as a draft, you need go to "Publish Options" in the advanced screen (with the >> icon in toolbar). There will be a "Status" button to choose between the different options (publish, draft, private, pending).
If you choose draft as status, the publish button will change its appearance.

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* allow selection of blog when saving drafts or publish
current method only posts to whatever is set as default

You already can to do it, go to Settings->General and enable "Choose account sending".

Thanks for the feedback!

yerga 2009-11-06 16:44

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 363826)
Some more requests:[*]bug on main page where second post appears twice as the latest post (see first screenshot in review)

I'll investigate it. It should be fairly simple to fix.

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some typos on status of posts and comments: publish -> published and approve -> approved
Yes, It's a text that the APIs receive on getting the information from the comments and posts. It also is simple to fix.

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a default image resize width in the settings - dialing down to 500px everytime takes too much time
Great idea. I also have seen many posts with big images, probably why people didn't know that it can edit images too.

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any way to use standard html tags for text appearance like <i></i> instead of using spans?
I know it looks too long ;-) In the first versions it was using <i>, <b>, etc. I don't remember why I changed it, if I don't find any reason, it will return back to use these tags.

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add comment date column on Manage Comments screen
Right now I don't know if the APIs return the date, but I'll take a look.

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request for image watermarking feature -- superimpose a .png image logo on top (lower right or left) of image
Cool. Added to the TODO list.

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a neat addon is a video (youtube, vimeo, ovi, etc) embed option where you just specify the video id
Yeah, youtube will be supported in version 2.1, let's see how I can implement it being simple for the users. Others services could come later, but youtube is the most important right now.

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Great work Yerga!
Thanks!

ymb 2009-11-09 22:13

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 366986)
Just asking, no sarcaism meant - but why would you need tool tips on a handheld, touchscreen, finger-UI-driven device?

I was not after tool tips specifically (and now you have pointed it out, they don't work with a Finger driven UI), more the basic concept that tool tips represent (an alternative method of getting information about what a specific icon does)

ymb 2009-11-09 22:40

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ymb (Post 366873)
* offfline mode
* default when starting up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 367478)
I don't know what you mean with this.
MaStory will use the system state, if you're connected it will be able to use network features, but if you aren't it won't be able, you can use offline fetures in any of the states (connected or not).

I might have been getting confused with the WordMobi feature set (appologies if that is the case)

The idea is sort of tied to the follow up feature request to cache and sync both posts and drafts.
My thinking for the use case here is when you are traveling and the N900 becomes more of a WiFi tablet again due to roaming data costs, or when you are on a plane and can't go on-line

I guess it would be quite some work to change the "posts list" to be more of a sync, rather than a fetch everytime.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 367478)
Why should be it changed to the menu?
IMHO it makes more sense in the toolbar on editing a post, but if you convince me, I can consider it.

To save as a draft, you need go to "Publish Options" in the advanced screen (with the >> icon in toolbar). There will be a "Status" button to choose between the different options (publish, draft, private, pending).
If you choose draft as status, the publish button will change its appearance.


From my inital experimentation, "Publish" is a bit to much of a drastic action to have as an icon (appologies, but as i have been "fiddling" intermitantly with settings I can't remember how things are as default).
The second reason is that if both "Publish" and "Save as draft" were menu options, it fits more closely with the workflow as experienced via the regular blogging web UI, as I see it (both Blogger & Wordpress have icons around the Edit-Box but save and publish buttons)

This may be a case where some form of tutorial helps, or as you say, getting clearer icons made :rolleyes:

Either way, thanks for the tips.

pixelgeek 2009-12-08 21:16

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
I tried out MaStory as well and thought I'll give you just shortly my feedback/ideas:

1.) I would also like to see an option to upload my blog post as a draft
-> User case: I start writing on my way home, but want to finish my blog post back home on my computer (maybe it needs some more linking, formatting, ...)

2.) Also useful would be if I could edit the insert tags button. I hardly use some of the provided tags and would instead need other tags.

Nice would be something like if you could push on the button longer and a window shows up, where you can edit the opening tag and the closing tag.

3.) Another thing useful would be, if the categories and tags get synced between blog and phone when you open the correspondant menu

4.) Maybe a different error message to tell you if you are not connected -> at the moment there is just a message saying that there was an error. (Maybe it's just me, but it happend already twice, that I wasn't connected)

Of course nice would be, if the publish button changes to a save button, if the phone is not connected, and uploads the post later.

Otherwise, thanks for this great application. I hope you'll continue working on it... Did a great job until now!

noxizmad 2009-12-25 18:26

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Hey, thanks for the hard work, MaStory looks like a pretty sweet app.

just a quick feedback from my end if you dont mind:

i just sent a bug report concerning the image attachment on a BLOGGER account;
i keep getting an "Error Publishing" each time i try to publish a message including an image (local image taken with the device itself)... i tried first with a full res, then a resized version (thru MaStory), then a cropped version... works perfectly without image tho...

another thing, somehow, i cant click-hold select text (like in any other text editing program)... maybe its just me, as i just got my n900 (used to be a n800 user), so i'm still tryin to figure things out, but it seems that i only get that with MaStory...

great app anyway, keep up the good work :)

peace

nox

yerga 2009-12-26 13:31

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noxizmad (Post 441508)
Hey, thanks for the hard work, MaStory looks like a pretty sweet app.

just a quick feedback from my end if you dont mind:

i just sent a bug report concerning the image attachment on a BLOGGER account;
i keep getting an "Error Publishing" each time i try to publish a message including an image (local image taken with the device itself)... i tried first with a full res, then a resized version (thru MaStory), then a cropped version... works perfectly without image tho...

Blogger API does not allow upload/post local images.
So I use a workaround here, MaStory will use Picasa Web Albums to upload the images, and post it in Blogger.

If you have never used Picasa, it will fail. I think it's the problem you are having here. To fix it, just go to http://picasaweb.google.com and log in with your google details, then Picasa will be activated.
After that, try MaStory again.

I know that it is a problem in MaStory documentation (lack of it). Unfortunately it's a very boring topic for me, so I postpone to write the documentation everyday (shame on me, I know). I would receive charmed any help in this topic.

If after activate Picasa or if you have already activated it, and MaStory continues failing, try publish a post with an image and without closing the application, check the Log in the menu and send it to me (dyerga at gmail dot com), or copy it here.

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another thing, somehow, i cant click-hold select text (like in any other text editing program)... maybe its just me, as i just got my n900 (used to be a n800 user), so i'm still tryin to figure things out, but it seems that i only get that with MaStory...
Well, this is a specific problem in Maemo 5 if you follow the guidelines. You can't select text and scrolling with fingers in a text entry (I think it will be fixed in future versions of Maemo 5).

In MaStory is important to be able to select text, so it uses a workaround, there is a checkbutton in the menu "Select text", if it is activated, you will be able to select text in the text entries, but you will not be able to scroll kinetically with the fingers (there will be a scrollbar though).


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great app anyway, keep up the good work :)
Thanks!

submono 2009-12-30 21:16

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Does MaStory also work with WordPress blogs that are not hosted on wordpress.com itself?

yerga 2009-12-31 12:17

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by submono (Post 447153)
Does MaStory also work with WordPress blogs that are not hosted on wordpress.com itself?

Yes.
You have to activate the XML-RPC function if it isn't activated, in your Wordpress configuration: Settings -> Writing -> Remote publishing, and enable the XML-RPC checkbox.

ARJWright 2010-01-02 15:25

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
MaStory is cool. It works as it should and I've just done my first post at MMM with it. definitely can use a feature where one can select to write plain text or HTML formatted text.

In the about menu, the rating screen points to a dead link. What you do there all developers should do. I'd even argue that the donations page you have is also very smart. probably should combine the two into a general 'feedback' screen with a button for both on it.

Feature request: need to integrate with whomever is doing a spellchecker/dictionary application. Would be nice id that were a systemwide dictionary and then apps plugged into it. If this also accessed the predictive text dictionary; then another win for text composition on the N900.

Again, great work Yerga.

maya 2010-01-23 17:50

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 447828)
Yes.
You have to activate the XML-RPC function if it isn't activated, in your Wordpress configuration: Settings -> Writing -> Remote publishing, and enable the XML-RPC checkbox.


here has not yet solved.

even with XML-RPC enabled and uploads folder with chmod 777 permission

maya 2010-01-27 13:30

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maya (Post 490695)
here has not yet solved.

even with XML-RPC enabled and uploads folder with chmod 777 permission

ok, I discovered I had problem in DNS and now I have access to other services such as repositories Nokia and sending SMS via Webtext.

But as the MaStory do is not publishing the posts, which the correct configuration of the Wordpress to the following fields:

Account name:?
Username:?

http://www.imageuploads.net/ims/pic....jotq9&i=179887

thanks

EDIT:
solution:
http://mysite/news/ worked perfectly.

maya 2010-01-28 12:54

Re: WordPy 2.0
 
My wordpress automatically generates 'post thumbs' on the front page.
Is there any way to do this with the MaStory?
thanks


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