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maven1975 2009-11-06 05:52
Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Are these types of applications ready for the N900? I am accustom to streaming podcasts and Pandora while on the road using A2DP.

Thanks in advance!

bigbrovar 2009-11-06 06:02
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maven1975 (Post 366999)
Are these types of applications ready for the N900? I am accustom to streaming podcasts and Pandora while on the road using A2DP.

Thanks in advance!
I don't know about pandora, but for podcasting there is gpodder which is the best podcast app you can find anywhere. its just soo effing good. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/gpodder/ It also has a desktop app which works with linux and windows http://gpodder.org/ you can read the review about the desktop version here http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/lin...w-119054.shtml (on N810 the desktop version and the maemo version have more or less same features)

also gpodder is one of the apps that uses the accelerometer and can be used in portrait mode.

About live streaming the N810 media default media player supports live streaming ootb so i dont see any reason why the n900 could be different

maven1975 2009-11-06 06:07
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Thanks for the info!:D

mike2k4 2009-11-06 15:49
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maven1975 (Post 366999)
Are these types of applications ready for the N900? I am accustom to streaming podcasts and Pandora while on the road using A2DP.

Thanks in advance!
Pandora works in the Native browser although it takes a few extra seconds to load, It plays well.

BigMaemo78 2009-12-02 03:26
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
I just tried pandora from the web browser on my N900...terrible experience...choppy and slow....back to my iPhone...

borland 2009-12-06 03:14
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Honestly, Why would you make such a remark about Iphone?
You actually made me to go to pandora.com and start random artist (Bon Jovi)
Yes, it really took about 30seconds for site to load- on computer it takes some time too- 10 seconds for me.
The first 2 seconds were laggy, both on PC and N900, after that both were playing nice and smooth for 1minute. The only time it got choppy for a second when i switched to another opened task. Then I just turned it off, to write this message.
Wondering if Apple pays these iphone phunboiz anything?..

Also in mediaplayer there is a podcast live radio and you can add other stations

phi 2009-12-06 05:12
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
i find it strange that gpodder doesnt have its own built in player. its just a downloader

Laughing Man 2009-12-06 05:15
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Well there was panucci but the default media player has improved.

bigbrovar 2009-12-06 05:29
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phi (Post 412562)
i find it strange that gpodder doesnt have its own built in player. its just a downloader
That is because it follows the unix philosophy of doing one thing, but doing it very well. Gpodder can concentrate on podcast management while playing podcast is left for panucci which is an awesome audiobook/podcast player.

Romeo0119 2009-12-06 17:48
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
I wish there was a pandora app for the n900, navigating through the site is a pain.

ewan 2009-12-06 17:53
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phi (Post 412562)
i find it strange that gpodder doesnt have its own built in player. its just a downloader
Would you actually want that though - how would it be better then using the standard player?

christexaport 2009-12-06 18:30
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Before this goes any further, let's not try to turn the N900 into the iPhone. We don't need separate apps runniatop Maemo. I have a much better idea.

We have unprecedented access to the OS, plus Nokia wanting to become an enabler and facilitator of services. This means instead of making "an app for that", this, or the other, let's do one better. Lets stop building apps and start byilding infrastructure. We need to create the rails to enable us to access Pandora, Last.fm, MySpace Music, and any other music streaming services that come along ALL FROM THE SAME INTERFACE!

So find the common ground between these services, create a common UI, and figure out how to enable these services to work within that paradigm. Isn't that a better idea?

I'm sick of filling up space on my device with multiple apps and icons for similar but branded services. Maemo is a game changer, so let's change the game. We finally have Nokia's support, so let's take advantage of the opportunity at hand! Let the sheep use their iPhones. We have pocket workstations. We can exceed anything on the market if we plan and use our heads.

I suggest starting with Qt and thinking out the UI. Anyone game?

ewan 2009-12-06 18:59
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
I'd start by giving the Nokia folks a sharp poke in the direction of opening the media player UI code - they seem to want a concrete reason for doing it, and "we plan to add last.fm etc. support" seems pretty concrete.

Plus, it'd be in their own best interests.

Bratag 2009-12-06 19:10
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigMaemo78 (Post 404021)
I just tried pandora from the web browser on my N900...terrible experience...choppy and slow....back to my iPhone...
Really - because it worked just fine on my N900 - little choppy when starting other apps at the same time but for the most part just fine.

Another Iphone fanboy finds the forums. Honestly - where do they come from and why do they bother coming here

tissot 2009-12-06 19:18
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 413210)
Really - because it worked just fine on my N900 - little choppy when starting other apps at the same time but for the most part just fine.
As long as the sound dosen't shutter i don't see a problem with this either. Now if i would just get to Pandora work from Europe like i do with my computer i would be happy ;)

jadpro 2009-12-11 22:09
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 413152)
Before this goes any further, let's not try to turn the N900 into the iPhone. We don't need separate apps runniatop Maemo. I have a much better idea.

We have unprecedented access to the OS, plus Nokia wanting to become an enabler and facilitator of services. This means instead of making "an app for that", this, or the other, let's do one better. Lets stop building apps and start byilding infrastructure. We need to create the rails to enable us to access Pandora, Last.fm, MySpace Music, and any other music streaming services that come along ALL FROM THE SAME INTERFACE!

So find the common ground between these services, create a common UI, and figure out how to enable these services to work within that paradigm. Isn't that a better idea?

I'm sick of filling up space on my device with multiple apps and icons for similar but branded services. Maemo is a game changer, so let's change the game. We finally have Nokia's support, so let's take advantage of the opportunity at hand! Let the sheep use their iPhones. We have pocket workstations. We can exceed anything on the market if we plan and use our heads.

I suggest starting with Qt and thinking out the UI. Anyone game?
You're right. I would rather have services such as Pandora built in as an account you can connect to in the media player. No need to download apps or anything because it would already be integrated. This is one feature i really like about the N900, i love that i have sign on to all of my IM accounts without having to download an app for them.

christexaport 2009-12-12 03:31
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Sorry I haven't responded sooner. We need to get a list of services we'd like to support. I'm already hearing Pandora and Last.fm. Any others?

I will have to focus on Maemo Freak this weekend, but will get with some design guys for a proposed UI mockup. I'll need to study both services and their iPhone and Android apps for expected features. I would even like to see the FM Radio UI incorporated as well.

So be on the lookout for a push on this. I'm going to Nokia with a full clip, and it'll take some good ideas to compell them, so let's think this out thoroughly. Glad my idea appeals to you guys.

electric1 2009-12-12 13:36
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 413152)
Before this goes any further, let's not try to turn the N900 into the iPhone. We don't need separate apps runniatop Maemo. I have a much better idea.

We have unprecedented access to the OS, plus Nokia wanting to become an enabler and facilitator of services. This means instead of making "an app for that", this, or the other, let's do one better. Lets stop building apps and start byilding infrastructure. We need to create the rails to enable us to access Pandora, Last.fm, MySpace Music, and any other music streaming services that come along ALL FROM THE SAME INTERFACE!

So find the common ground between these services, create a common UI, and figure out how to enable these services to work within that paradigm. Isn't that a better idea?

I'm sick of filling up space on my device with multiple apps and icons for similar but branded services. Maemo is a game changer, so let's change the game. We finally have Nokia's support, so let's take advantage of the opportunity at hand! Let the sheep use their iPhones. We have pocket workstations. We can exceed anything on the market if we plan and use our heads.

I suggest starting with Qt and thinking out the UI. Anyone game?
I think that is a really good idea! One other service I would love to see support for is blip.fm. I was really looking forward to using it in the browser in the N900. It works, but the constant zooming and scrolling make it a pretty unpleasant experience.

Being able to access multiple services from the media player or other interface would be an awesome solution. While the browser on the N900 can replace the need for many apps, the main advantage to me of having a mobile app is the ease of use on the smaller screen of a mobile device.

sadfist 2009-12-12 21:08
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Theres a linux open source CLI pandora app:

http://6xq.net/html/00/17.html

Maybe a place to start with at least being able to use pandora without the browser. christexaport's idea sounds awesome though.

christexaport 2009-12-12 21:43
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
does Pandora still restrict use to paid accounts for standalone players?

go1dfish 2009-12-12 21:49
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 413152)
Before this goes any further, let's not try to turn the N900 into the iPhone. We don't need separate apps runniatop Maemo. I have a much better idea.

We have unprecedented access to the OS, plus Nokia wanting to become an enabler and facilitator of services. This means instead of making "an app for that", this, or the other, let's do one better. Lets stop building apps and start byilding infrastructure. We need to create the rails to enable us to access Pandora, Last.fm, MySpace Music, and any other music streaming services that come along ALL FROM THE SAME INTERFACE!

So find the common ground between these services, create a common UI, and figure out how to enable these services to work within that paradigm. Isn't that a better idea?

I'm sick of filling up space on my device with multiple apps and icons for similar but branded services. Maemo is a game changer, so let's change the game. We finally have Nokia's support, so let's take advantage of the opportunity at hand! Let the sheep use their iPhones. We have pocket workstations. We can exceed anything on the market if we plan and use our heads.

I suggest starting with Qt and thinking out the UI. Anyone game?
https://garage.maemo.org/docman/view...ntle-draft.pdf Inacessable at the moment of course, but I'd check out Maemo's Media Application FrameWork

Little bit of (oldish) info here: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/n...-framework.ars

It allows you to implement content providers, and content viewers.

Seems like pandora would require both, a provider to determine/get at the streams, and a viewer to provide the UI elements necessary to thumbs up/down tracks.

From my dealings with Nokia, what christexaport is suggesting is exactly what they had in mind when developing the Media Application in this modular way.

christexaport 2009-12-13 13:31
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
So what dealings have you had with Nokia? I'm just a blogger/promoter with zero dev skills. maybe we could work together, and I can use your experience to be more prepared.

cowb0y 2009-12-14 00:55
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
AFAIK, the (newer) standalone players are intended for paid accounts only (I run Pandora One using Adobe AIR on my desktop, which uses roughly 10% of my CPU). I haven't tried pianobar yet, but hope to soon (maybe try creating a plasmoid to control it, if possible). Barring library issues, I'm hoping it will run on the N900. It would be really nice to have one or more such backends controlled through a unified interface.

maysys 2009-12-15 04:18
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Interestingly, adobe AIR has a linux installer. It won't go on the n900, but it could probably be tweaked to do so.

Then the AIR PandoraOne client should be just like running a flash .swf locally, etc. Why they used AIR instead of flash, I don't know.

christexaport 2009-12-17 20:18
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
atm, AIR doesn't run on ARM yet, or so I hear. If it did, I'd be screaming for Tweetdeck.

crasbelize 2010-10-01 13:58
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
whats the update on this guys?
MUSIC is a major part off my life.....i need a good pandora app.

am willing 2 pay for it!

Laughing Man 2010-10-01 15:00
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Err.. if your looking for a Pandora app you can try PyRadio (by Fatalsaint).

The Arsonist 2010-10-01 23:45
Re: Pandora & Podcast Application for N900
 
Like Laughing Man just mentioned, pyRadio is a Pandora client that works GREAT! Fatalsaint is quick and responsive to anything regarding his app. I've been using it for over 6 months and the experience has been great.

pyRadio

As for Podcast...I personally add them to my RSS reader and then just download them(to avoid having annoying buffering issues). I know that may not be the best solution but a thought. I really never used RSS until I got the N900 and it really is a useful tool for mobile browsing. I prefer FeedingIt as an RSS reader because it supports Portrait and Landscape.

FeedingIt

xiton 2010-10-02 01:51
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pyRadio works great.

Thanks for the recommendation guys!


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