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titan 2009-11-08 00:42

Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
I just heard about this serious competitor (if don't need a keyboard)
which is based on another Linux OS (LiMo).
I wonder whether Maemo can be ported this device?
Here's the list of differences wrt. N900 which I could find:

+ 115.8 x 58.0 x 12.9 mm @ 134 g
+ 3.5" AMOLED 800x480 display
+ capacitive multitouch display
+ 1500 mAh battery (500h standy, 6h talk)
+ high-quality and robust build
+ HD video 1280 x 720 @ 25 fps
+ FM-reciever, proximity sensor
+ SAR only 0,4W/kg
+ Opera 9.6 browser
+ available NOW!
+ price w/o contract ca. 350 EUR in Germany

* LiMo (Linux Mobile) OS
* TI OMAP 3430 600 MHz (same as N900) CPU/GPU chipsets
* 5 Megapixel autofocus camera (2560x1920) + frontal VGA camera
* 16 GB internal flash, SDHC card slot

- no physical keyboard
- no IR, TV-out
- only Bluetooth 2.0
- dual band UMTS (900/2100Mhz).

and some links:
http://samsungh1.com/samsung-h1-specs/
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/vodafon...der15-10-2009/
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...360-samsung-h1
http://www.inside-handy.de/handys/vo...bericht_1.html

first users report that you would need to get used to the software
but they're exited about the hardware.

QueenShawtii 2009-11-08 00:46

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
I'm a physical keyboard person but,that definitely looks sexy Spec and Design-wise.

vkv.raju 2009-11-08 00:48

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
In what way is this a killer?? I don't see it.

smarsh 2009-11-08 00:49

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
For my needs as a mobile office, keyboard and TV-out are what makes N900 of worth.

That, and easy debian.

titan 2009-11-08 00:56

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 368490)
In what way is this a killer?? I don't see it.

If the LiMO is sufficiently open so that Maemo can easily be ported then I'd drop the N900.

some reasons for potential buyers could be:
The H1 costs 30% less than the N900.
Some people prefer capacitative screens and find the resistive screen of the N900 a drawback.
There's some hope that USB host mode could be implemented as this
device is not charged by via USB.

Laughing Man 2009-11-08 01:05

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
LiMo? If it's the same LiMo I remember then I think even Android is more open than LiMo. And Nokia owns Maemo.. so it's unlikely that it would ever be ported, especially given the closed parts. Mer on the other hand might be possible if the drivers are there.

somedude 2009-11-08 01:08

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 368485)
I just heard about this serious competitor (if don't need a keyboard)
which is based on another Linux OS (LiMo).
I wonder whether Maemo can be ported this device?
Here's the list of differences wrt. N900 which I could find:

+ 115.8 x 58.0 x 12.9 mm @ 134 g
+ 3.5" AMOLED 800x480 display
+ capacitive multitouch display
+ 1500 mAh battery (500h standy, 6h talk)
+ high-quality and robust build
+ HD video 1280 x 720 @ 25 fps
+ FM-reciever, proximity sensor
+ SAR only 0,4W/kg
+ Opera 9.6 browser
+ available NOW!
+ price w/o contract ca. 350 EUR in Germany

* LiMo (Linux Mobile) OS
* TI OMAP 3430 600 MHz (same as N900) CPU/GPU chipsets
* 5 Megapixel autofocus camera (2560x1920) + frontal VGA camera
* 16 GB internal flash, SDHC card slot

- no physical keyboard
- no IR, TV-out
- only Bluetooth 2.0
- dual band UMTS (900/2100Mhz).

and some links:
http://samsungh1.com/samsung-h1-specs/
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/vodafon...der15-10-2009/
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...360-samsung-h1
http://www.inside-handy.de/handys/vo...bericht_1.html

first users report that you would need to get used to the software
but they're exited about the hardware.

Eldar is that you??;):p

titan 2009-11-08 01:13

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 368502)
LiMo? If it's the same LiMo I remember then I think even Android is more open than LiMo. And Nokia owns Maemo.. so it's unlikely that it would ever be ported, especially given the closed parts. Mer on the other hand might be possible if the drivers are there.

ok, Mer. let's wait and see whether someone can get a root shell on the H1.

@somedude: who is Eldar??

somedude 2009-11-08 01:17

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Eldar is the guy who reviewed N900 first and later started talking about samsung will kill N900 with their 2011 device.
It was a joke but did not really work because you did not know about that whole story.
If you got time tonight peep in here you will know ohh yeah and here

nashith 2009-11-08 01:18

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Not even close to competing with N900, its not designed to please geeks enough ;)

titan 2009-11-08 09:28

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by somedude (Post 368510)
Eldar is the guy who reviewed N900 first and later started talking about samsung will kill N900 with their 2011 device.

thanks! I predict that some Nokia 2011 device will kill the N900. So let's wait two more years.

the H1 is probably more a direct N920 competitor, if someone can port an open Linux to it.

c0rt3x 2009-11-08 09:50

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Samsung is a hardware manufactuer, and no one can deny that they are capable of wonderful hardware. ;)

However, a phone must be well-balanced between both the hardware and the software, and in this case it's the software that can (although doesn't have to) be the possible limitation.


See Samsung's Iphone 3GS for reference: it has great hardware made by Samsung, but the locked-down Apple software completely ruined it. :(

johnkzin 2009-11-13 17:54

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Minuses:
No keyboard
Not charged via USB
No dpad on the face
Opera

Not necessarily a minus, but a hurdle to adoption (for me, at least):
I have no idea what things that version of Linux allows or doesn't -- terminal window? OpenSSH? other SSH (not PuTTY!)? etc.

tissot 2009-11-13 18:07

Re: Samsung H1: a N900 killer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 368641)
Samsung is a hardware manufactuer, and no one can deny that they are capable of wonderful hardware. ;)

However, a phone must be well-balanced between both the hardware and the software, and in this case it's the software that can (although doesn't have to) be the possible limitation.


See Samsung's Iphone 3GS for reference: it has great hardware made by Samsung, but the locked-down Apple software completely ruined it. :(

They are doing the thing that Nokia was doing back in 2006-2008 and controlling with great hardware. Actually Samsung have had so many good phones lately that i can't even remember them all, thought nothing big recently. Eldar have said that they will have new wave of high end phones next year in time for N920 ;)

At least for me they still are missing the final polish and i don't really like their designs(this goes for H1 too imo).
Still my Omnia HD has worked great and one of the rare good looking Samsungs i have found.


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