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onion 2009-11-10 16:54

NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Having a pre-release phone, I'm wondering, should I update to the new version available on NSU trough flashing or wait for updates to appear in the app manager ?
Anyone know what has been fixed, if anything?

qole 2009-11-10 18:44

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
That firmware (week 42 = mid October) seems awfully outdated, only a couple of weeks newer than the Summit firmware. If they were really fixing bugs found by Summit attendees, shouldn't the firmware revision number be higher?

I'm going to wait a few days and see if they update the site with newer firmware.

If not, oh well, I guess it took a month to make sure that the week 42 firmware was really shipping quality...?

att 2009-11-10 18:52

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Could it be branch that started week 42? Feature freeze when branched and bug fixes only after that.

qole 2009-11-10 18:54

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Hmm, this post suggests that it is the shipping firmware.

Ok then.

Venomrush 2009-11-10 19:03

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Correct.

1.2009.42.11 seems to be the latest on NSU.
If they already have shipped out the devices, this firmware will be the firmware they have.

Consider this firmware as the shipping firmware.

There is another one slightly newer but only for Germany.

koivjann 2009-11-10 19:07

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
I updated and i haven't found any big improvements yet. I would say that it's newer and more bug free. Nokia maps seems a little different but I haven't found any functional changes.

qole 2009-11-10 19:11

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
I'm only guessing Venomrush's post is correct because ragnar, a Maemo Devices employee, and someone directly involved with the project, thanked the post I linked to above, as well as another post saying the same thing.

Oh, and interesting, week 42 is the week after the Summit. The 11 is the revision number. So probably the 42 indicates feature freeze on Week 42, and 11 indicates that it took 11 revisions to get the bugs out.

Looking forward to getting this.

Venomrush 2009-11-10 19:14

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by koivjann (Post 371610)
I updated and i haven't found any big improvements yet. I would say that it's newer and more bug free. Nokia maps seems a little different but I haven't found any functional changes.

I would like to see an official changelogs with the bugs fixed reported at bugs.maemo.org

realitygaps 2009-11-10 19:14

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Is there a downloadable image to use with the linux flasher? I dont have any proprietary OS's to use NSU with....

mve 2009-11-10 19:30

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
I have installed it also and only thing I have noticed is that clearing all information from the device seems to be quite difficult.

I tried to start with clean device but I couldn't found any way for doing that. '/home/user' and '/opt' seems to keep all information even after upgrade. Also setting device to factory defaults didn't do anything to that data.

Venomrush 2009-11-10 19:34

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 371639)
I have installed it also and only thing I have noticed is that clearing all information from the device seems to be quite difficult.

I tried to start with clean device but I couldn't found any way for doing that. '/home/user' and '/opt' seems to keep all information even after upgrade. Also setting device to factory defaults didn't do anything to that data.

This could be due to UPD (User Data Preservation)

SubCore 2009-11-10 19:48

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 371586)
Hmm, this post suggests that it is the shipping firmware.

Ok then.

could it be that Venomrush queried SKUs for the preview/summit devices and that they've changed for the final devices?

the SKU for the german N900 seems to be different.
shop.nokia.de has it listed as sku=6958534, whereas venomrush queried SKU 0574383 for germany.

shop.nokia.co.uk has it listed as 10208380, and in venomrush's post it's listed as 0560826..

qole 2009-11-10 19:50

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 371639)
I have installed it also and only thing I have noticed is that clearing all information from the device seems to be quite difficult.

I tried to start with clean device but I couldn't found any way for doing that. '/home/user' and '/opt' seems to keep all information even after upgrade. Also setting device to factory defaults didn't do anything to that data.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 371645)
This could be due to UPD (User Data Preservation)

No, it has to do with the fact that system data on the N900 is scattered over three partitions, the 228MB rootfs, the 2GB /dev/mmcblk0p2 which is both the /home and /opt directories, and /dev/mmcblk0p1 which is the 27GB FAT partition mounted as /home/user/MyDocs.

If you want to update the entire device, you have to get two firmware images, the "main" one, which updates the rootfs, and the "eMMC" one, which updates the /dev/mmcblk0p? partitions.

eikido 2009-11-10 20:08

Re: NSU 1.2009.42.11 firmware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 371662)
could it be that Venomrush queried SKUs for the preview/summit devices and that they've changed for the final devices?

the SKU for the german N900 seems to be different.
shop.nokia.de has it listed as sku=6958534, whereas venomrush queried SKU 0574383 for germany.

shop.nokia.co.uk has it listed as 10208380, and in venomrush's post it's listed as 0560826..


venomrush provided you the product id, no the sku
two totally different things


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