So,... I bought the HD2
 

hey Guys,.. I was thorn between the N900 and the HD2.
Earlier I was thorn between the Droid and the N900,.. But after my supplier told me the N900 was going to take another 5 days before they get stocked (+3 days to deliver) I was pissed and bought the HD2. I read a bunch of reviews though telling me it was lightspeed fast

This is an account of using the HD2.
Lemme tell you, this HD2 is AMAZING, sure the OS is *****e but I don't really notice it, the phone is fast and Sw33t. HUGE screen, F@st and the screen is (howard stern soundclip) HUUUUUUUUUUGE.
Why did I coose the HD2 being a linux hardcore user?
I'll tell you.
The hardware is great, nothing beats this screen. Pinch to zoom is great, the swirly motion to zoom in is crap and shows the n900 islimited by its resistive screen.
The loading time in the webbrowser is FAST, OMG guys, it is fast, i can't tell you what pleasure this is.

So yeh, I bought the HD2, hate me, I don't care, it's got a digital compass and big *ss screen, I'm in love.

What about the WM6.5? I don't see it, sure it's old but honestly, it's native and SUPER fast. I'm an ex iphone user and honestly iphone can't touch this.

Y'all hate me for buying this but I'm loving this phone... HUGE f'kin screen && swee and FAST, it's crazy fun.
i don't miss the HW keyboard, the onscreen keyb is easy to use and better than any HW keyb I ever used.
I bought a FM transmitter with the HD2, works great.
The phone is so slim it's crazy. I love it.

\Why did I go to HD2 instead of the n900 being a linux-head?
Well.. the load times using the browser convinced me going to HD2.Some article shows the HD2 being the fastest and I was convinced. I only use my smartphone for surfing (huuuuuuuge screen and fast rendering times)

hate me now. kisses and so long guy

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This is a carebox, [ . ] ...Its empty.

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Is he wanting sympathy?

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Awesome. Just awesome

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well then have fun with your HD2. uhm yeah, thats all. goodbye

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Don't be like this. I just want to inform :(
I'm sorry guys,... I'm no fanboy.. just a down-to-earth user of a mobile platform

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your on wrong forum the kiddie OS forum is that way -------------------->>>>

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http://www.everythingwm.com/forum/htc-hd2/

fetch

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*Stones thrown*

Harharhar !!!

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Hardware wise I am sure the HD2 is a nice machine. Even the interface seems nice enough thanks to HTC bastardizing the hell out of it. But at the end of the day, underneath all the eye candy, you still have a Windows Mobile 6.5 OS and that is just not acceptable. I am sure for what you want to do its fine - though I very much question the browser being the fastest.

If browsing was all you wanted though It makes me ask why you would have considered the n900 in the first place.

----> This way to join the rest of the drones.

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I think he kinda lost, and hope to he will feel better after spending so much money on his HD2 and yet not able to do what N900/meamo can do :> ...so sad for him. Good luck with your new toy :>

Cheers! N900!!!

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cool story bro

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You know, a lot of people are new to smartphones, or are looking to upgrade to a smartphone that is 1 or 2 generations ahead of what they have. So, when you get a new device, you are going to notice and enjoy it great features which are going to be a lot more than you're used to; and find workarounds for its limitations. Mostly, most phones are going to work for most people.

The point is that it is important to get the device out there for people to evaluate and buy. Like the Droid, or HD2, or 3GS. So, that drbytes got the HD2 is mainly on Nokia. I'm glad he/she likes it, I don't see why some people's ideological fixation has any bearing what phones people are allowed to buy without being vilified.

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nice, but buying a HD2 just for browsing is the dumbest excuse ever, delivery also, it is the idea behind things and if you are fine with microsoft in your back ok, I dont buy things from microsoft or t-mobile, if I get something for free ok but idealistic thoughts keeps me from devil contracts and software, a device needs to be capable to run open source or its not on my shopping list! even my W880i (was for free) is running linux as backend dont know why they swapped to WM with their X series

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Why not t-mobile? From what i've seen, they seem to have the best deals, i'm hoping for an n900 on t-mobile, the HD2 on t-mobile is £35/mo for 700 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited data, for 18months vs Vodaphone with 900mins but 24months. Also unlike most of the AUP's t-mobile wont charge you more if you go over the "fair amount" (unlike orange).

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I'm not sure why drbytes posted and I would not have used his choice of special characters but instead of attacking him like a bunch of insecure fanboys who feel they are destined to lose the game, listen to what he has to say.

In other places there are many suggestions for many apps that could/should/will be written for the N900. Let's not forget that polishing the basic apps can go a long way towards swaying consumers. Take the browser.

While buying a smartphone just for browsing may be as dumb as Chemist says, the fact of the matter is that people with smartphones use the browser a lot. Can the N900's browser be made faster, be made better?

Focus on making the N900 experience (not the N900 potential) so good that we can have N900 users posting notes like this on the HTC site.

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HD2 with WM and Coreplayer will be a MUCH better option than if it had Android. Stuck with only MP4 then and itty bitty app space.

Still, the HD2 sux butt compared to the N900 ;)

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Good luck but I'm waiting for my N900!

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Don’t you have a forum for you miserable HD2. I think it’s not really polite to have all these treads about hD2. Go play in another place. This is for maemo. Now, please, get lost…

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Sincerely people should focus on maemo. This are people paid by companies, some sort of new advertisement.
I have more thing to do than go to HD2 site.

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Hey, how do Google Docs and GMail work for you?

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After reading your review I have just one question: what do you think about the screen?

In all honesty though, I don't mind WM either. I have 6.1 with SPB Shell on my smartphone and I like it a lot. People can get insane about it (I read a review that compared WM to "Satan (pooping) inside a cell phone) but WM has its strengths, runs my favorite mobile browser ever - Skyfire - and is nice to look at when shelled over or otherwise granted a UI like TouchFlo 3D.

That said, I love the elegance and ease of use found within my N810's Maemo.

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Well, the point of the OP it seems to me is that a selling point beats an abstraction. Like, you can talk about openness all day long, but not many people (besides us) are going to buy a phone for openness. Multitasking maybe, but a really good browser, now you're talking about something specific that someone can understand and use, and a huge screen, that is something you can actually touch and appreciate.

The moral is that the great masses aren't moved by ideologies so much as by things they need and understand. Hopefully, the N900 can compete on that basis.

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:DN900 is so much nicer:D

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im waiting for the n900 as i have seen the hd2 and its hideousely wide and tall to big for me where the n900 is right size, thicker but i rather have it thicker then to wide and tall so it dont feel to big in the hand.

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Good luck. But don't be a stranger. We want a full report how much you're still enjoying that device when the honeymoon's over.

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That's not the moral because we're not talking about the masses. He proclaimed more than once that he wasn't part of the great masses. It seems he was wrong.

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We are all part of the great masses from time to time. How many of you like to breathe? Just like all those other droogs, eh?

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I think what disturbs me about this thread is not the outcome (hey, the guy is happy with his purchase, so it's all good, no?) but the philiosphy.

On the one hand, you have the locals, whose philosophy is that nothing will ever compete with the n900.

On the other you have, a first sight, a consumer who is very happy with something else. Which ought to be fine.

But there's a 'why?' under there. Why did the OP choose one device over another? Was it for superior hardware? (which some may consider it if you insist on capacative, for example.) Was it for superior firmware? (well, I'm no windows fan, but heck they sell enough!) Was it for a greater range of apps?

No. It was because he couldn't wait the requisite 8 days for an acknowledged better and cheaper device.

Now, without wanting to single out and criticise the OP personally and individually, I worry about what he represents: a generation who cannot possibly wait one single instant to have their desires gratified. Is this a generation who will embrace Open Source? I fear not. :(

(Mind I can think of many other things they won't embrace either - like long term, worked-at relationships, sustainable care for the environment, good parenting... ) ;)

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I wonder if you see the irony in such a childish statement....

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this thread is closed.

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"The march of style over function;
emotional copy over factual appraisal;
uneducated assertion over patient fact-finding assessment."

From a comment in My Top Scary Technology Trends

I am pretty sure every generation has said that the next one lacks education/character/discipline, etc. In some cases, such traits come with age, and as such will not be displayed by a younger generation. In other cases... you can take a man to a well, but can't force him to drink.

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Obvious troll is obvious or Successful troll is successful? hmmm ;)

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You win for "Best Straw Man This Week." A question relevant to my comment would be:

How many of you don't use any Microsoft software or hardware products?

[raises hand]

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No, no, no,... Listen, I'm an avid Unix lover, I live and breathe the stuff, it's my bread and butter. I'll ignore the fanboy and childish comments I've seen in this thread because I know there's better people in here then those who belched up a reply suggesting I stick the HD2 somewher unpleasant.

Speed. Rendering speed of webpages was my number one requirement, the faster the better. There's a review out there that pitches the N900 against the HD2 in terms of rendering webpages. The HD2 wins in the overall. Forgive me not wanting to look that review up, I lack the time, however, seeing as y'all very into the n900 I bet you've seen it and chose to ignore it :p
Formfactor. I'm sorry, but this is 2009, I want my device flat and sleek. The n900 is not IMHO. It's a pack of sigarettes-factor, the HD2 is.. just flat.
Screen. 4+inches is better than 3+inches. I don't want to hear anything else. It is really huuuuuuge. I'm sorry this is sounding redundant.

Now,... Did I want linux on my device. Oh god, yes. I'll even settle for android. I love linux, it's open, it's full of promise, it does all my bidding, I adore it!
However.. I'll have to carry this tablet around all day, I need it to be FAST in rendering pages and I want it to have a large and easy viewing screen.
For those considerations, between the hd2 and the n900 the hd2 wins. That's for me personally.
Will I keep an eye on maemo? Well offcourse, if that 920 is ever coming out I'll be back here, hopeing it'll be fast and comes with a large screen.

In all honesty, if the n900 had've shipped end of september (as I was promised by Nokia) I would've gotten it and I prob. would've defended it to death. Things turned out differently. THe HD2 came out and it beat the n900 in areas I was interested in,..

Also, i'm not paid by any company.
But if any company wants to, heck, send yar checks :p

As an end note, I did not want to flash my cool device in your faces and go nah-nah-nah, I just wanted to tell you guys why I went for the hd2.

rgds

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The prosecution rests its case.

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I don't want to make this a huge discussion, but seriously dude, you bought the HD2, you're happy, why come to maemo.org and tell us about it? What is the reason for this?

I'm quite sure that everybody in this community have been reading a lot, if not endlessly (me:)) about the N900 and the differences, and the good things and the bad things, and all the videos, etc., and therefore, we all know what the pros and cons about the latest smart phones.

So if there's any place that you should post in, then it's the HD2 forums! They'll at least welcome you in, hip hurray and we're all happy :)

But to me it sounds like you regret it, and if so I totally understand ;)... You might have some "your money back the first 14 or 30 days" :) But anywat, good luck with the phone!

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On one hand you say that you chose the HD2 because of rendering speed of the browser. The comparisons I have seen of browser speed put the N900 slightly behind the iPhone and thats generally accepted as the fastest currenty.

Regardless of that you go on to say that if the N900 had shipped at the end of Sept then you would have purchased and defended it. That leaves me wondering. If browser speed is the main reason for you wanting a device then why would you have "settled" for the N900 just because it shipped in Sept.

Again it speaks to someone who wanted it NOW NOW NOW. Rather than RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT.

On a personal note I find it hard to believe ANYONE who works and uses UNIX every day would EVER take a windows device when with a little patience (less than 2 weeks most likely) they could have a fully functional Linux device.

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Ladies and Gentleman, this is the Competitors forum. Perhaps the torrent of gushing praise was a little over the top, but this is an appropriate place for a consumer to state why they chose to buy one of the N900's competitors. Nokia cannot meet people's desires in future devices if they do not know what these desires are.

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To be honest, "size does matter" when you're discussing screen size. If I had a choice between a 3.5" and a 4.3" screen device, it would be very hard to go with 3.5".

The other reason why I would have a hard time with the N900 is that it doesn't support North American 3G. In fact, that is the real deal breaker for me.