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N900 Korean support.
I was wondering if N900 can display Korean fonts by default?
Such as for: - file names (example korean writing = 파일명 (filename in Korean)) - mp3tags - Browsing Korean websites (such as www.daum.net) I would at least expect to be able to browse korean web sites but not sure. If anyone can please test, I would greatly appreciate it. btw, I've already pre-ordered 2 of N900's anyways. :D -------------- UPDATE DEC 30th. 1. US version of N900 doesn't come with Korean capable fonts it seems. But if you install DROID fonts, it will display Korean for file names, xterm, media player, mp3 id tags, web sites in both Fennec and MicroB without issues. 2. If you don't want to install DROID fonts, just copy your own Korean font on to the memory card, launch xterm then use following commands. (use your own font filenames for the mv/cp command) You will need to reboot after this. sudo gainroot mv fontname.tff /usr/share/fonts fc-cache -f -v For Inputting Korean: There are 3 methods: 1. EASIEST method. Online Korean IME. Go to below url using N900 browser. http://www.try-to-be-mensch.de/korea...ime-korean.htm You can enter english in the bottom box, then you'll see korean on top box. Then you can press copy button on the bottom right of the top box to highlight the text, then press ctrl+c from the N900 keyboard to copy. (or press copy button from the browser dropdown menu) 2. Use GNU emacs as per instruction in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37242 Then you can type Korean in emacs, then copy/paste to wherever. 3. Use mscim which is available at extras-devel repository. (know about dangers of extras-devel) Need to install: - mscim - mscim-modules-table - mscim-tables-ko The input works as if it's native but the Korean syntax is not fully correct yet. It tries to create a character using 3 consonents/vowels all the time and doesn't know about the smaller / larger characters. So you will need to manually press spacebar or enter to move to input next character. It's annoying but it's useable still. I hope this gets corrected. Also, this will disable the function+Sym key for inputting other symbols. Which means no tilda or pipe symbols unless you remap your hardware keyboard... (only way it to uninstall it from my experience) More info is here: (do google translate) http://www.ifanr.com/5882 3. Need to follow this project: http://domaemon.blogspot.com/ |
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I just tried www.daum.net and it displays well.
Although the title bar of the browser window does not display Korean characters, just boxes. |
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HOWTO for N8x0.
http://wooooo.tistory.com/13 |
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Thanks pycage for trying that out. At least I can browse then. =)
goliathz - Awesome to see that there is a solution for N800. I can also see that there is Korean input solution for N800! http://dev.pinagalli.com/himkor/ But I assume it's not the same solution for N900? I guess I'll have to wait for someone to come up with a solution... My dream would be full Korean input/output support on N900. :D |
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reading on the n900 is No problem at all!!
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4...9120615335.png yes 소녀시대 짱!!! =p |
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Chinese work well too!
Off topic; do people love SNSD for the girls or for the music? It seems like everyone like that group for some reason :P |
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Ahahahhah well if you watch enough of them, you'll start to see their personalities and start liking the girls cuz they're so charming and cute. music-wise, They're not the best. They have some good songs, and some ok songs, some not worth putting on your music player... what about you? are you a fan? or do you not like them? ALSO japanese works too =) |
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browser works fine for different languages, but korean letters show up as boxes in the music player.
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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=24qomj5&s=6 screen cap i took look in the application downloads before it was all boxes too |
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http://http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5489/screenshot2009120701 What do i install from Application manager? |
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keikel - wow, I'm glad Korean works for both browsing and to display the file names. Did you have to do something special to get the Korean fonts to appear for the mp3 file names? Does it appear fine for video file names also? =)
Now all I pray for is for proper Korean input support using the physical keyboard. (well, virtual keyboard will be okay too but I would really prefer hardware of course) :D |
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Okay. not proper proper korean input but here's an alternative.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37242 |
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Why is everyone posting pics, but no one is explaining how it's done?
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I've tried copying Korean named files, music, videos and browsed korean sites. It ALL shows up with boxes. I don't see any Korean fonts properly displayed.
What do I need to do? Copy Korean fonts to the N900? |
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okay. I've followed this methos and copied the korean font to the phone.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=16 Now I can see korean in both Fennec and MicroB. Also, the filenames now show up in Korean also. Cooool. (Not everything however, some still show up as garbled.) |
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Here's an update of what I found so far.
I'm still new to all this so not sure if this is all or is the best methods. I've added this to my first post. Hope we can get more Koreans here. =) --- 1. US version of N900 doesn't come with Korean capable fonts it seems. But if you install DROID fonts, it will display Korean for file names, xterm, media player, mp3 id tags, web sites in both Fennec and MicroB without issues. 2. If you don't want to install DROID fonts, just copy your own Korean font on to the memory card, launch xterm then use following commands. (use your own font filenames for the mv/cp command) You will need to reboot after this. sudo gainroot mv fontname.tff /usr/share/fonts fc-cache -f -v For Inputting Korean: There are 2 methods: 1. Use GNU emacs as per instruction in this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37242 Then you can type Korean in emacs, then copy/paste to wherever. 2. Use mscim which is available at extras-devel repository. (know about dangers of extras-devel) Need to install: - mscim - mscim-modules-table - mscim-tables-ko The input works as if it's native but the Korean syntax is not fully correct yet. It tries to create a character using 3 consonents/vowels all the time and doesn't know about the smaller / larger characters. So you will need to manually press spacebar or enter to move to input next character. It's annoying but it's useable still. I hope this gets corrected. Also, this will disable the function+Sym key for inputting other symbols. Which means no tilda or pipe symbols unless you remap your hardware keyboard... (only way it to uninstall it from my experience) More info is here: (do google translate) http://www.ifanr.com/5882 |
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Like switching between korean and english? I only got it to swtich twice(by random) |
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@keiel
Use ctrl+space to switch between English mode and other IMEs. @jakiman The symbol input panel (Fn+Sym) is under developing. Well, for the Korean input bug, could you give me more example? Since I know nothing about Korean charater and input methods. So, it would be better to give me some examples like which keys you pressed, and what do you purpose to have. And are there any Japanese guys could help to test inputting Japanese? Since I'm Chinese, I could only test and optimize it for Chinese input methods modules. |
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Hi firstfan, regarding Korean input:
It seems it doesn't know Korean characters. Just allows typing of consonents and vowels but doesn't know when it should go to the next character. So it tried to make a 3 consonent/vowel character everytime. Example: Hana (is "one" in Korean pronounced 'ha-na') ㅎ = h ㄴ = n ㅏ = ah Should be "하나" (type "gksk" while in Hangul input mode) But right now, it types it as "한ㅏ". (That's han-a not ha-na) So instead of ha-na, it types it as han-a (in Korean language, a vowel by itself cannot make up a separate character) So it should automatically detect that I typed a vowel "a" after the word "han" and pull the "n" out of "han" and make it "na" for the second character. Korean character involves a minimum 1 consonent and 1 vowel combination and it can have more(3, 4 or 5). But not just 1 by itself. Another example is a 4 component character: 찮 (type "cksg") ㅊ = ch ㅏ = ah ㄴ = n ㅎ = h Above character cannot be made as it ends up being: 찬ㅎ If you want to compare what MSCIM does to what it should be, try this website. You can type english in the bottom box to get the correct Korean on top. http://www.try-to-be-mensch.de/korea...ime-korean.htm Anyways, thank you so much for getting it to work at least partially so far. Hopefully one day it works much better. =) btw, I noticed that mscim and mscim-tables-ko is not available anymore? (I uninstalled it so I can use the extra symbols) |
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@jakiman,
Thanks. I'll try to study what you said about Korean IME. It may take some time. mscim-tables-ko should still be in extra-devel, I can see it here from my device. Update: I think scim-tables-ko is not really good designed for every language and IMEs. But I found there's a scim-hangul module. And I can try to add it to MSCIM framework. But I still need your help. There're 2 toggle keys in scim-hangul, one is shift+space to switch between ascii input mode and hangul input mode, the one is F9, Hanja key. In the help, it says, "This key binding is to convert a hangul character to a hanja character." My question is, is the Hanja key important when input Korean? You know, there's no F9 key in N900. Though I can set it to other key, I still want to make it easier. If it's not very important, I would prefer to disable it. |
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And all Korean guys here, I'm starting an open-sourced work to translate the build-in applications and UIs to other languages. Does anybody like to help to translate it to Korean?
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@ firstfan,
Hanja isn't as important. Actually, majority won't ever use it or need it. So as long as Hangul portion works, that is fine. No need for Hanja. I'll definitely test out the scim-hangul once you make it available. :D Also, I'm no developer but I can at least translate some stufff for you if you like. =) |
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@jakiman
I started a tranlation project here: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/...ations/c/main/ Korean language translation is not started yet, I copied all strings from en_US. There're 6269 strings. gtk20.po and osso-cities.po are ok to use English. But still have 4990 strings. Not all of them need to be translated. I don't know if anyone could help to orgnize the Korean translation work. If anyone start, I could upload the install package to extras-devel immediately. Usually, I will update translations from that site and make a new package everyday and upload to extras-devel. Since we've only done zh_CN, zh_HK, zh_TW, so only these 3 packages are published now. |
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@HRZ
Install mscim-googlepinyin from maemo extras-devel repository Restart your device. Then go into any input field, press "Ctrl+space" to swtich input mode. Now you can input Chinese. |
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@firstfan
I was wondering if you are still working on releasing the mscim-hangul module? |
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Please send me your email address, so that I can send the test package to you. Mine is firstfan@gmail.com |
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@firstfan
any risks with that app. i have yet to try anything in devel for fear of bricking. have you tried it? |
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@HRZ
I've been using it for a while (albeit only Korean) and there is no way it should brick your N900. |
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You are awesome my friend. what a lifesaver, works like a breeze! I thought I'd have to wait another 3 months before someone developed a pinyin input app. thanks!
now if i can just get QQ on here... pidgin wont connect my account for some reason, maybe cuz im on the 2009 English QQ...oh well |
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also if there's an english=>pinyin dictionary I could install on the n900 that would be incredibly useful!!
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Just an update:
Thanks to firstfan, I have received a test version of mscim-hangul. This can input Korean properly. Works as good as on a computer now. Finally, I can type Korean natively on the N900 from any app. =) No need to copy and paste from GNU Emacs or some online site. shift-space to switch back and forth between English and Korean input. It's still not tidied up in terms of the gui popup during typing however. (missing icons etc) So we will have to wait until firstfan does his thing and release it on extras-devel. |
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Regarding the Virtual Symbols Keyboard not working when you have mscim installed.... (Fn+Sym)
You can remap the hardware keyboard just by modifying "rx-51" file. It's located at /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/ Make sure to backup the original elsewhere before modifying it. I just sftp'ed the file to my desktop, modified it, then copied it back to my phone. You can also use leafpad to modify it. Type the following below with root priv. leafpad /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 You can remap pretty much every symbols shown on the ctrl-Sym virtual keyboard on to the hardware keys. (as a shift+bluearrow+KEY) It's extremely easy and I've mapped the keys 1 to 0 on top with the same symbols as my normal computer keyboard. I also assigned { and } as well as often used ~ and | and Tab and Esc to some other keys. Now I never have to press CTRL+Sym key to bring up the symbols menu. Very convenient when using the terminal often. Some helpful threads: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35931 http://www.natisbad.org/N900/n900-ke...remapping.html I used the info here for getting the names for the symbols in normal PC keyboard: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xkeyboar...ree/symbols/us |
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Could any Korean people help me to test the Korean locale and translation package?
It's in maemo extras-devel, and the package name is N900-i18n-ko_KR Only a little of strings are translated. If anyone has intresting about helping translating to Korean. Please contact me. firstfan@gmail.com |
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hI firstfan, I have tried the Korean locale / translation.
Only some simple things such as dates, time and some basic application icon names (such as contacts) seems to have been changed so far. I have found no problems while using it. You can contact me also if you need some translation done. =) |
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This is great to see progress on this subject because I am starting to pick up where I left off learning Chinese and Korean.
Pinyin would be very useful for me as usually I visualize the Chinese words in pinyin when trying to remember what to say. |
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yes soshi love baby ^^ my n900 has soshi all over it i want to make snsd theme T.T
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