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Maerkus 2009-11-18 18:39

Extensive German review
 
For all German speaking people:

http://www.chip.de/artikel/Nokia-N90..._38039778.html

The review by chip.de is very detailed imho and there is also a short video.

Devil 2009-11-18 18:41

Re: Extensive German review
 
"Beim neuen Smartphone-Flaggschiff N900 kehrt Nokia seinem bewährten Betriebssystem Symbian den Rücken und setzt auf die mobile Linux-Variante Maemo. "

Read: "Beim neuen Smartphone-U-Boat N900 kehrt Nokia seinem be...."

benny1967 2009-11-18 21:52

Re: Extensive German review
 
They're not overly impressed, though:

Quote:

# Overall Rating: 81,4 %
#
# Mobility (size and battery life): 50%
# Multimedia: 100%
# Features: 72%
# PIM: 80%
# Internet: 96%
# Ergonomics (build quality and UI): 86%
This makes it #12 in its category:

Quote:

1. Nokia N97: 95,1%
2. Nokia N97 mini: 89,5%
3. Nokia E75: 89%
4. Nokia E90 Communicator: 86,4
5. Nokia E71: 86,2%
6. HTC Touch Diamond2: 85,9%
7. HTC Touch Pro2: 85,3%
8. HTC Touch Pro: 85%
9. Sony Ericsson Xperia X1: 84,1%
10. HTC Touch HD: 83,8%
11. Samsung SGH-i780: 82,1%
12. Nokia N900: 81,4%
13. RIM BlackBerry Storm 9500: 80,6%
They think the N900 is better than the N97 in terms of multimedia experience and roughly on par with it in terms of internet, but loses a lot of points because of its missing standard phone features, its size and its battery life.

(And before any of the Americans here ask: The iPhone is in a different category and on #26 there. 86,6% though, but a different rating system is applied.)

Breece 2009-11-18 22:03

Re: Extensive German review
 
Just to repeat myself: A test by this magazine means nothing...

slaxium 2009-11-18 22:08

Re: Extensive German review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Breece (Post 381413)
Just to repeat myself: A test by this magazine means nothing...

You are right.
That's it :D

Edit:"Das Senden und Empfangen von MMS-Nachrichten ist ebensowenig nicht möglich. Diese Anwendungen könnten jedoch bald als Apps zur Verfügung gestellt werden. "

Ahh all a speaking bout apps but, but functions like MMS could be inluded in the OS and no sinlge app.

Breece 2009-11-18 22:16

Re: Extensive German review
 
Well to me the Chip is on the level of the Computerbild for those who understand this ;)

slaxium 2009-11-18 22:25

Re: Extensive German review
 
From Chip:"Die Arbeitsgeschwindigkeit reicht zwar nicht ganz an das iPhone-OS heran, liegt aber mit Android und Symbian etwa auf gleicher Stufe und lässt Windows Mobile deutlich hinter sich."

Short: Maemo is slower than the IPhone OS X

Ok multitasking is not such an important thing, for chip.

tissot 2009-11-18 22:25

Re: Extensive German review
 
Seeing that N97 and N97 mini are leading tells me enough. That said i totally understand the point they are making about the phone side and they are not the only ones, but the thing is i know exactly what i'm getting there and i'm not worried.

Battery life in a other hand is something i need to see more reviews... dont think it will affect me buying N900 or not thought ;)

Jack6428 2009-11-18 22:32

Re: Extensive German review
 
I don't care what anyone says or writes, i just want my phone finally!!!

Helmuth 2009-11-18 22:42

Re: Extensive German review
 
From Chip: "Eine Besonderheit beim Speicher: Der Applikationsspeicher zum Ausführen von Anwendungen ist mit einem Gigabyte sehr großzügig bemessen, so dass auch der massive parallele Einsatz von mehreren Anwendungen gleichzeitig keine Probleme macht."

Short: 1 GB Application Memory is more than enought!
Ooookay, its a Test for Joe Average. I can remember here a other threat. ;)

benny1967 2009-11-18 23:04

Re: Extensive German review
 
Looking at their rating system, its totally reasonable. You have to admit that those reviews that were more in favor of the N900 praised its UI,.... and its UI... and multitasking... and the UI.

Chip does rate the UI, but only as part of the "ergonomics" category, which in turn makes only 25% of the overall outcome. The other 75% are calculated from hard facts.

Given that multitasking on the N900 is only a marketing thing (because all S60 phones can do it, so you really wonder why Nokia puts so much emphasis on it with Maemo now) and the quality of a UI is highly subjective, it's a valid and reasonable thing to do when you rate a product. Focus on what you can measure, what is objective, and let other factors only play a minor role.

Breece 2009-11-18 23:10

Re: Extensive German review
 
I simply cant take a magazine seriously that gives out a nice scoring with completely arbitrary categories..
But if you prefer a nice score that tells you which product is the better one....

Sorry, I really dont mean to be rude or anything and I dont think that other reviews and previews we have seen so far are much better.

Rushmore 2009-11-18 23:12

Re: Extensive German review
 
Seems like the review is oriented to smartphones. From that perspective, how can anyone argue. Smartphone users expecting a high end smartphone will probably not be happy, but media and tech fans will be. Like it has been said already, some of these reviews are from the same perspective a lot of others will have- they assume the N900 is a high end smartphone. The N900 will be unfairly knocked in reviews and expectations as a result.

chemist 2009-11-18 23:39

Re: Extensive German review
 
true, its not a smartphone yet for the software side! its more a uber small netbook with gsm module

Maerkus 2009-11-18 23:42

Re: Extensive German review
 
I agree with most of you about this review. But chip.de is a very popular website in Germany at least for Joe Average and I wanted to show what the "public" thinks about the N900.

Most of us forum members will buy the N900 because it's opensource and its potential but we shouldn't ignore that for most users the N900 is not the right device (one step is missing!). In this context I think the review is quite fair.

Rushmore 2009-11-19 00:06

Re: Extensive German review
 
I appreciate folks here could care less, but besides the MMS and non portrait messaging, the killer is high end smartphoners expect to be able to use the device with one hand. At the moment, you can not safely access the phone function one handed.

On a positive, there will be quite a few good N900 deals on eBay by those same people ;)

Jack6428 2009-11-19 00:06

Re: Extensive German review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 381485)
Looking at their rating system, its totally reasonable. You have to admit that those reviews that were more in favor of the N900 praised its UI,.... and its UI... and multitasking... and the UI.

Chip does rate the UI, but only as part of the "ergonomics" category, which in turn makes only 25% of the overall outcome. The other 75% are calculated from hard facts.

Given that multitasking on the N900 is only a marketing thing (because all S60 phones can do it, so you really wonder why Nokia puts so much emphasis on it with Maemo now) and the quality of a UI is highly subjective, it's a valid and reasonable thing to do when you rate a product. Focus on what you can measure, what is objective, and let other factors only play a minor role.

Not to sound rude, but you do see the major difference of multitasking on a Symbian device (or any device on that matter) versus multitasking on Maemo 5, right? Show me a phone which can do multi-tasking in real time with over 20 apps open at the same time... none other then N900 can do that so effectively as far as i know, its same as in Windows 7 imo

Bratag 2009-11-19 00:36

Re: Extensive German review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 381435)
Seeing that N97 and N97 mini are leading tells me enough. That said i totally understand the point they are making about the phone side and they are not the only ones, but the thing is i know exactly what i'm getting there and i'm not worried.

Battery life in a other hand is something i need to see more reviews... dont think it will affect me buying N900 or not thought ;)

http://anidel.blogspot.com/2009/11/m...uter-n900.html

Seems like Battery life has been greatly improved with the latest firmware. I also read another review today that said they were getting 1 1/2 days with wifi/gps always on and 40-50 minutes taking a day etc. That aint bad

pinsh 2009-11-19 00:47

Re: Extensive German review
 
"Akkuleistung: Nach gut drei Stunden Dauertelefonat, Dauer-Websurfen oder Spielen muss das Gerät wieder an die Steckdose - für ein Business-Handy dieses Kalibers einfach zu wenig."

They say that after 3 hours of constant calls, surfing, or gaming the phone has to be recharged, which is not very good for a business phone. Sounds a bit weird to me, especially compared to other reviews (gsmarena).

Devil 2009-11-19 00:50

Re: Extensive German review
 
seems there is a lot of discussion not only on how long the battery life is but also how much hours people get from the device.

which pretty sucks to me.

i mean if it is the case that MY battery lasts 5 hours and my neighbours his battery lasts 10 hours with the same usage. I mean, come on. that encourages brain-smashing.

Bratag 2009-11-19 00:54

Re: Extensive German review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pinsh (Post 381575)
"Akkuleistung: Nach gut drei Stunden Dauertelefonat, Dauer-Websurfen oder Spielen muss das Gerät wieder an die Steckdose - für ein Business-Handy dieses Kalibers einfach zu wenig."

They say that after 3 hours of constant calls, surfing, or gaming the phone has to be recharged, which is not very good for a business phone. Sounds a bit weird to me, especially compared to other reviews (gsmarena).

Yeah that sounds short to me especially given other peoples reviews. Obviously all 3 of those things is very battery heavy, especially the gaming and calls, but even so....


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