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aboaboit 2009-11-19 09:22

Maemo Italian Long Weekend
 
Guys, how about an italian meeting along the lines of the Maemo Barcelona Long Weekend ?

We need to figure out if there is enough interest, of course, then we can move on to the possible locations and dates.

Personally, I'd like to focus on introductory talks like "getting started with maemo" and so on, but your suggestions are welcome!

Please show your interest by adding yourself to the event wikipage and don't forget to vote for your preferred location in the poll above!

EDIT: fixed BCN link, added wiki link

matteone 2009-11-19 10:08

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GREAT !! If shold be a Maemo Italian Long weekend I will be !!
SURE

qgil 2009-11-20 03:45

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Only to mention that there is indeed a possibility of a Long Weekend in Italy. Is there an interest? Preferred location? Preferred topics? How to reah the Italian mobile developer community?

RenegadeFanboy 2009-11-20 06:27

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Getting started w Maemo would be interesting for me too - but my Italian is not good enough, are these things in English? (Sorry ;-)

anidel 2009-11-20 23:50

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I am really interested of course.

Let's start with topics, then we can decide a location (preferably not in a big city like Milan or Roma).

- Introducing Maemo, the Maemo.org community and ways to help
- Localization
- Starting to develop for Maemo (Qt)
- UX track?
- more...

Well .. places: Bologna is easily reachable, but I'd prefer something even smaller like Padova or Pisa or something closer to Rome.
But we'll see if local people know of nice places...

andy80 2009-11-21 00:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 383401)
Only to mention that there is indeed a possibility of a Long Weekend in Italy. Is there an interest? Preferred location? Preferred topics? How to reah the Italian mobile developer community?

About location: if you want a well connected to international airports city, I would suggest Milano, Roma.

If you're looking for a nice city I would suggest Bologna or Pisa.

When do you think we could do it? Just to know if I'll be in Italy or still in Spain in that period.

aboaboit 2009-11-21 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy80 (Post 384792)
About location: if you want a well connected to international airports city, I would suggest Milano, Roma.

If you're looking for a nice city I would suggest Bologna or Pisa.

When do you think we could do it? Just to know if I'll be in Italy or still in Spain in that period.

I believe a well-connected airport is a MUST for an international event, but a SHOULD for smaller scale events like the BCN one or the (future) italian one. Apart from Bologna (it'd be nice playing host), I'd say we should look for a medium-sized city in central or northern Italy: Firenze, Pisa, Torino. If any of you people reading this has connections to the local LUGs, now is the perfect time to talk to them.

The timeframe: we need time for both the promotion (so far not enough buzz to justify Nokia's interest) and for the organization, so I wouldn't even try before january 2010. On the other hand, there's also Fosdem coming up in february so my pick would be either 15-17 or 22-24 jan.

Guys, blog about this till your fingers bleed or it won't happen!
(especially if your blog has, say, more than 2 readers like mine ;-)

admiral0 2009-11-21 12:08

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I have connection to 2 LUGs.
1. POuL (poul.org) If we are talking about Mon-Sat days Politecnico di Milano can host us, i think
2. Lifos. Should get in touch with them to know. (lifos.org)

aboaboit 2009-11-22 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by admiral0 (Post 385121)
I have connection to 2 LUGs.
1. POuL (poul.org) If we are talking about Mon-Sat days Politecnico di Milano can host us, i think
2. Lifos. Should get in touch with them to know. (lifos.org)

Great!

I have followed Quim's suggestion by starting this thread because I am keen on making this happen. Likewise, I would propose that you do the actual talking to these two groups and report back here. I've already spammed everybody I thought might be interested ;)

By the way, I have created a wiki page for the Maemo Italian Long Weekend where we'll consolidate the information as the situation evolves. I am filling it in now with the few things we already have.

EDIT: ok, the wiki page has some sort of dignity... go ahead!

netvandal 2009-11-22 21:22

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great idea! i will be for sure there.
I can try to talk with some people in University of Brescia for known if we can host this event, also i can try in University Bicocca of Milan if needed. I've some contact here and there... :)
Tomorrow i write some mail an let's see.
Nice to see this initiative!

aboaboit 2009-11-22 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by netvandal (Post 386280)
I can try to talk with some people in University of Brescia for known if we can host this event, also i can try in University Bicocca of Milan if needed.

Right now, the greatest value lies in numbers: we need headcount!

If you talk to them, make it crystal clear you're not speaking for Nokia, in any way, shape or form... there, I covered my *** pretty well on this occasion ;)


Quim, what is the standard procedure for organising an event? I believe it's still a bit premature to pick a specific venue but I do realise that people making first contact need to know what the rules are.

anidel 2009-11-23 00:16

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Cool, so many locations :)
I am in contact with people from the University of Salerno where I studied, there's plenty of interest in these devices.

As for the topics, any more concrete ones?

anidel 2009-11-23 00:17

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Well if you've followed the Barcelona "make-up", you'd noticed it grew pretty fast from a small event (UX meets Code) to something well beyond that.
No real rule, just throw in ideas, topics of discussions and see the follow-up.
The more the people are interested in a topic the more likely it'll be added to the agenda.

b0unc3 2009-11-23 03:05

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Great!! A maemo Italian long weekend would be definitly fantastic :)
And of course I am interested.
I would suggest as location also other place ( we have many beautiful places in Italy :) ) like Sicily ( were I live and I can also help to find out a venue ) ... moreover if the weekend would be done in spring... what about a maemo-beach-party :D
For the topics , I suggest something to introduce maemo and the community ( mandatory topic I think ) and also some good talk on how to develop on the device.
I will contact other italian community to know more on what they would like.

aboaboit 2009-11-23 08:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 386437)
No real rule, just throw in ideas, topics of discussions and see the follow-up.

Sorry, I meant rules for contacting venues: what did the people who went scouting for Barcelona, Amsterdam, Copenhagen do/say? Are we looking for a space to rent or some university offering shelter would be fine?

Another topic I'd like to see, at least in the form of a workshop: tips and tricks for making an extra application fit in the system. Not just the UI, but hooks, policies, you name it.

qgil 2009-11-23 13:26

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First get a potential critical mass of interest. Pinning down date and city can be done also with the help of Nokia Italy.

anidel 2009-11-23 13:37

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That's what we're trying to do.
While we wait for feedback we were working out a list of potential candidate cities and dates.

admiral0 2009-11-28 10:56

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Ok. I'm sending message to 255.255.255.255 ;). From my n900 obviously.

BTW Milano++

lorthirk 2009-11-28 13:13

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Sounds great for me. Since I'm from L'Aquila, I'm voting for a central city (lazy me). But for sure I'm interested, especially if there will be introductory/getting started topics (both on development and community) discussed.

jpilomia 2009-11-29 19:45

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Hi,

Nokia Italy (together with Forum Nokia) is planning a developer event for ealry 2010, and I don't see why we can't combine those as things are still under definition. So once we have this critical mass I can take it up from the Forum Nokia side..

Texrat 2009-11-29 20:18

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It is really exciting to see this taking shape! I'm sure that whatever comes together the participants will have a great time.

anidel 2009-11-29 20:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpilomia (Post 399551)
Hi,

Nokia Italy (together with Forum Nokia) is planning a developer event for ealry 2010, and I don't see why we can't combine those as things are still under definition. So once we have this critical mass I can take it up from the Forum Nokia side..

That would be great, are there more info on this event so that topics won't overlap ?

I don't know how Nokia and Forum Nokia are shaping it, but I am sure we can fit an Maemo track in it inside which we can have our own agenda similar to the one defined for Barcelona.

netvandal 2009-11-29 22:38

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great news!
how many people we need to consider us a right critical mass? just to move early to this target. :)

anidel 2009-11-29 22:41

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The more the better of course. For the Barcelona week end the starting point was around 50...

netvandal 2009-11-29 22:58

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just a question, i've many friend not involved atm in the maemo community, but interested in the event. How we can count them? we make them register? or we can simply collect their name on the wiki?

aboaboit 2009-11-30 09:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by netvandal (Post 399811)
How we can count them? we make them register? or we can simply collect their name on the wiki?

It could work, but we'd need a way to keep an eye on them: either adding the name of the member who added the entry on behalf of the interested person or listing some contact information (email, skype, whatever...), though this option means worrying about spam ;)

I'd go for no.1... we can always backpedal if Nokia objects.

mloregian 2009-11-30 14:12

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I'd really like to participate in such event!

jpilomia 2009-12-01 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 399636)
That would be great, are there more info on this event so that topics won't overlap ?

I don't know how Nokia and Forum Nokia are shaping it, but I am sure we can fit an Maemo track in it inside which we can have our own agenda similar to the one defined for Barcelona.

Yes, that's the idea - after all we will probably have some sessions useful for all developers targeting Nokia platforms, and it makes all sense to have evenyone together, meet the local Business Development Manager, Nokia Italy guys to know the cool stuff coming from Italian developers... :)

So I'll connect the event organizers with this thread's organizer and let's see what will come out of it! ;)

GeraldKo 2009-12-01 20:16

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Every time I cruise New Posts and read the title of this thread

Maemo Italian Long Weekend

I feel like it's going to be about a film made in collaboration by Michelangelo Antonioni, Ingmar Bergman, and Alain Resnais.

corVONero 2009-12-01 22:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 403419)
Every time I cruise New Posts and read the title of this thread

Maemo Italian Long Weekend

I feel like it's going to be about a film made in collaboration by Michelangelo Antonioni, Ingmar Bergman, and Alain Resnais.

Even thou I still didn't put my hands on a maemo based device ... i'd be glad to join in...
Rome would be the best choice...

Oh, btw, if time permits, I'd be glad to study/relate about the forensic implications of Maemo based devices (possibly versus Iphone devices).

How about that?

Manuele

aboaboit 2009-12-01 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corVONero (Post 403701)
Oh, btw, if time permits, I'd be glad to study/relate about the forensic implications of Maemo based devices (possibly versus Iphone devices).

Now that is quite definitely a new topic :)
Feel free to add it to the wiki page, along with your name in the list of interested people.

corVONero 2009-12-02 02:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aboaboit (Post 403781)
Now that is quite definitely a new topic :)
Feel free to add it to the wiki page, along with your name in the list of interested people.

Glad about that. Done.
M.

anidel 2009-12-18 10:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jpilomia (Post 399551)
Hi,

Nokia Italy (together with Forum Nokia) is planning a developer event for ealry 2010, and I don't see why we can't combine those as things are still under definition. So once we have this critical mass I can take it up from the Forum Nokia side..

Hi,

do we have an update on this? If the Maemo Italian Week end is a joint event with the Forum Nokia one, then I think we don't have to look around for a place where to do it.

On the other hand if the Maemo event will be independent then there's a need for a venue and we need to decide where and when to do it.

Thanks!
Aniello

maxppc 2009-12-29 08:45

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I like to get involved in developing for this platform therefore would be nice to have a meeting but my partecipation depends on location

dslaky 2010-01-04 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 433196)
On the other hand if the Maemo event will be independent then there's a need for a venue and we need to decide where and when to do it.
Aniello

Might I suggest Salerno as the site of the event, I am president of the Linux Users Group of the University of Salerno and I've already made them several events, I am also part of the Italian KDE users community (kdeitalia.it) and I have contacts with the Italian QT users community (qt-italia.org).

The event could be done within the medieval Castle of Salerno, which offers a picturesque backdrop, and a conference hall inaugurated for less than 6 months.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/...cf94ef5f0b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e-panorama.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...di_Salerno.jpg

anidel 2010-01-04 20:23

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Hello guys,

I've spoken on the phone with Gian-Luca Cioletti of Forum Nokia a few days ago.
There is, of course, lots of interest in organizing this event.
The Forum Nokia event seems to happen too close (beginning of March) to be able to organize a joint event with ours and Gian-Luca thinks it would be best to aim at the beginning of April for the Maemo one.
The location for the two-days Forum Nokia event seems to be Milan (pretty expensive for us I think).
Two days is also too little, I think, for the Maemo event. Three sounds better.

Thus, I would push for a three-days (four?) Maemo event somewhere where we can attract as many people as possible from Nokia, the people already in the Maemo community, Qt people and of course new Maemo users.

Aniello

anidel 2010-01-04 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dslaky (Post 452473)
Might I suggest Salerno as the site of the event, I am president of the Linux Users Group of the University of Salerno and I've already made them several events, I am also part of the Italian KDE users community (kdeitalia.it) and I have contacts with the Italian QT users community (qt-italia.org).

The event could be done within the medieval Castle of Salerno, which offers a picturesque backdrop, and a conference hall inaugurated for less than 6 months.

I didn't know they were opening a conference hall in there.
Do you know how many rooms are there and how many people each room can accomodate?

Without this information we can't even think to add it to the list of possible choices.

Aniello

dslaky 2010-01-05 15:19

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In the castle there is a single room with 150 seats, but within the university I have the ability to use different rooms, each of which can accommodate from 200 to 500 people.

I can also use the auditorium of the university (2 rooms, approximately 400 seats each).
http://www.cut.unisa.it/image/teatro2.gif
http://www.cut.unisa.it/image/teatro.gif

anidel 2010-01-05 17:13

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I don't think there will be that many people.

If we follow the Barcelona count, there were a bit over 150 people attending the whole event.
Each room had space for 50-70 people each and there were three parallel tracks.

elris 2010-01-05 17:32

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I suggest Torino. It's 55 minutes far from italian best connected airport Malpensa and there are two universities which can give support and space for the event. Plus, there are really lots of groups focused on open source and linux.


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