N900 - Yes, it sucks.
 

Overall

+ Feels solid
+ Great screen
+ Good sound quality from speakers/phone
+ Pretty fast camera
+ Good keyboard
+ USB charging/sync
+ Customizable desktop
+ Fast GPS lock
+ Nice Task Switching
+ Very nice OS

- Scrolling anywhere is like a bunch of mini seizures, really close together. In other words, garbage. Why the hell is this not perfectly smooth like the iPhone? It's the same hardware.
- Missing features that make you go WTF: no playlists, no searching email.
- WTF do you sync with...you get OVI links from the factory yet you try ovi suite and you get "device not supported". Typical Nokia garbage.
- Desktop widgets are cool but take facebook and news...you get 2-3 lines that keep scrolling and no way to make the widget larger. Completely useless.
- Music player widget is great but does not work with A2DP. Why?
- RSS reader is slow as hell to update (wifi or not). Scrolling is painfull at best.
- Transitions in the OS are nice but they often turn choppy and fail altogether. If you want to use transitions see that 2 year old device...what was it again...oh yeah.
- Try playing music and going online at the same time. The choppy scrolling gets even worse. Can I still scroll in the browser? Yeah. Is it painful as hell? Yeah.


Browser:

+ Pages load fast considering everything it's loading.
- Scrolling through bookmarks is slow as hell. Why?
- Scrolling through pages you get the checkered pattern VERY often. Sometimes you sit there for 3-5 seconds waiting for the scroll to catch up. WTF?
- Sometimes the pages get messed up with previous pages. Half the page would be the current page, half the previous page. You have to either reload the page or scroll over the messed up area to refresh it. WTF?
- Clicking back brings up this nifty history view. Nice. Now I have to factor in 5-10 seconds every time I want to click back? Have a history button and have the back button do just that: TAKE YOU BACK. No, I don't want to press backspace.
- Flash...yeah it does flash and youtube videos. If you feel like waiting 20 seconds for the video to catch up to the audio every time you move the page while playing the video then this device is for you.


Conclusion

I could go on and on but in a few words: THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. I like it for what it can do but it doesn't do anything better than other phones out there. The experience is still painful. All the fragmented scrolling and painfull transitions make you feel like you're asking the device to do too much. Over-planned features are everywhere and yet not fully implemented (widgets, what widgets?). Basic functions are missing.

Where are the apps? WTF do you sync with? Why isn't there a central support page for this phone..etc.etc. I don't think Nokia has their stuff together and doubt they ever will. For me, this was Nokia's last chance to continue earning my business after all the garbage I bought from them over the years. Let's see how it pans out with some firmware updates but I am starting to get the feeling we're all wasting our time.

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Looks like theres work to do.

Want to sell?

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Haha no...I will enjoy the hell out of this phone you kidding me :)

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Do you want some cheese with that whine? I have a nice bit of Roquefort here....

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let the auction start

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Will defo wait to try one out before I go jumping in head first tho

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Mmmmm...that doesn't sound half bad actually.

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If it's garbage why not sell it? :)

Come on... start the bidding @ about US$300 there about :D I'm game!111

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:confused:

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You should have tested before buying and crying?

Serious its a brand new OS and there will be bugs and lack of applications they will be ironed out over the next few months. The lack of apps is because it's a brand new OS. Once the phone/tablet is wide spread then expect many applications new and old (Ports from Maemo 4 ports from Linux based apps)

As other's say if you think its that bad sell it, if not it cant be all that bad

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the music player doesn't have a playlist? lol wth..thats so basic not to have.

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Me too I am on the game 325Us$ already waiting for one but I'll take this one while waiting

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are you the boy who cries after playing modern warfare 2?in youtube?are you going to make a vid about n900?boy who cry after having nokia n900?:D

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http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-...es-for-your-pc


http://europe.nokia.com/get-support-...t-support/n900

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lol, somebody doesn't know how to create playlists I'd say.

so please learn to use the device first. it isn't iPhone so obivously it doesn't work like one....

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I think you are confusing a reality check with complaining.

Would you buy a car with 3 wheels only because the last wheel was in development? Don't worry it's coming in version 1.1. The point is that Nokia has been pulling this crap with all their phones lately. They keep pumping out phones and none of them are any good. Well guess what, this one sucks too.

As a geek I will definitely enjoy the phone...but for normal people this will fall waaaaaay short, especially when you can go get an iphone for 200$ that can actually scroll smoothly.

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Really? Someone else seemed to have this same issue, so it does seem to be UI issue - not all that intuitive.

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But a wheel on a car is a major issue.. Small software features are not that critical. It seems to me that your pretty much comparing it to an iPhone.. iPhone will have features the N900 does not have but all the +'s to the N900 far out weight the iPhone... Maybe you just need to get used to it..

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No I would walk around the car first and make sure I was getting what I thought I was getting. There have been dozens and dozens of demo vids posted before the phone came out. If you jumped on thinking it would be an iphone killer then you are an idiot, the phone was never touted as that. The lack of apps has LONG been known, creating a playlist has already been explained.

I bid $350

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- Scrolling anywhere is like a bunch of mini seizures, really close together. In other words, garbage. Why the hell is this not perfectly smooth like the iPhone? It's the same hardware.
- Desktop widgets are cool but take facebook and news...you get 2-3 lines that keep scrolling and no way to make the widget larger. Completely useless.
- Try playing music and going online at the same time. The choppy scrolling gets even worse. Can I still scroll in the browser? Yeah. Is it painful as hell? Yeah.



These are valid points guys. I love the N900 to bits and have been waiting to get it. These are valid points we really have to consider and look at with open eyes instead of getting all defensive whenever someone brings up a valid concern.

if music playing lags the system up, does that not concern you guys at all?

despite the promises of patches and stuff, even current OS like Symbian are flawed and slow at times. just thought i would bring that up. : /

also, things like the facebook widget etc., these are things firmware cant fix. if the maemo crew never let us resize widgets, then the widgets will be useless.

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I know how to make playlists buddy. Unfortunately if it takes you forever to make one I don't think it counts as a playlist.

As far as syncing, wtf is the ovi suite and why does it coexist with the pcsuite?

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funny...

there is a thread dedicated for new owners and their experiences and you choose to create your own whine-thread..

i guess it just means that you are desperately looking for attention..

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It's a UI issue, the same problem plagued the n800/n810's default media player. You have to experiment or look/ask here to find it (I think I remember myself doing that when I first got the n800 too in Dec 2007).. wow it's been two years.

Don't know why the TC is experiencing browser issues, I haven't seen anything like that even in the multi-tasking videos. As for lack of applications and widgets, have you enabled extras? As of now extras is disabled until the 1.1 firmware update. As more time comes by we'll see more applications from extras and as soon as something like EasyDebian for Fremantle is ready you'll be able to use Debian and some of its applications.

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Thought the flash video Issue was fixed with the retail firmware (lags etc.)?

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Why does reading this thread make me feel as if I'm listening to a manic-depressive? My conclusion is that, um...he hates the phone but will enjoy it very much. Uh, and that the phone is complete and utter garbage that appeals to his inner geek. Time to adjust the medications?;)

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An iPhone for $200? Where? I will buy 10 and make a killing!

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In which the scrolling is perfectly smooth. I have watched them.

Please point out where I said iPhone killer.

This is a phone that is being sold by Nokia as a flagship device. I am therefore within logical bounds to assume that it will compare to other flagship devices and not crap its pants every time I try to scroll.

Also, the fact that I bring up concerns after using the phone for some time and some people around here get all defensive and call me a whiner makes you guys a bunch of fools. Exactly the kind of fools that Nokia needs to keep buying garbage products.

Again, as a gadget, the N900 is great. As a phone that is supposed to be bought by many many people it falls flat on its face.

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Perhaps Megacrazy in an odd rough sort of way reflects what a lot of smartphoning, iPhone expecting type of people will also say.

Heck, Mega did not even bring up no portrait mode for messaging or lack of MMS- that will be posted by the smarthoners. ;)

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For anyone who doesn't know how to make playlists - read page 74 of your manual.

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Exactly. Great geek product but crappy phone.

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I didn't expect the n900 to be a great phone (I consider it a tablet first, a phone second myself). Not to mention considering how Nokia themselves pointed out that it's only step 4 of 5 in building the platform. Step 4 is more for the geek and bleeding edge crowd than your average consumer.

Though I'm not so sure I want step 5 myself, it seems to be too smartphoney and no longer a tablet by that point. Especially given the things they are considering (e.g. DRM systems)

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You mean 'Mobile Computer' surely...

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Really?

Your OP didn't even mention phone functionality, and seemed to critize the "smart" part of it rather heavily.

Also, naming you thread as "N900 - Yes, it sucks" isn't really the best way for reasonable criticism that might actually be usefull and help in Maemo development.

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I never use playlists. Won't bother me one bit. Does it have the ability to play music based on info gathered from ID3 tags? Like play all music in a specific genre? That and a really good directory structure is all I need.

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especially considering the "geek" in him is still excited about the phone. Very misleading title which is likely only an attempt to generate replies (i.e. trolling)

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Yes it does. Though playlists are nice when you want to say make one for a party, or do smart playlists (smart playlists would be a nice feature actually).

Though I wonder why there's no music program (not online like Last.FM, etc.) out there that is done via tags.

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every time I hear step 4 of 5 I have to run to the bathroom.. because this means cr*p

at any given stage the phone has to be finished product. No excuses because with Nokia 5 of 5 will become 4.95 out of five and when you hope you have of 5 of 5 suddenly you are in 5 of 6 :-) and the crap continues.. got to run to the bathroom sorry

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Did you ever consider that perhaps its just YOUR phone and you should think about reflashing as several other people have done and a very simple process has already been posted for.

Or did you just decide not to bother doing any work and instead fire off a big ole whine.

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Simply put. It's not a [smart]phone yet. It's just a tablet with basic phone capability added.