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IWantToMarryTheN900 2009-11-26 01:13

Evernote
 
So - can any of you lucky N900 owners shed some light on Evernote? How well does it integrate? Screenshots would be appreciated.

frethop 2009-11-26 02:04

Re: Evernote
 
Evernote comes in only two flavors: there is an Evernote sharing service and the Evernote Web page.

The sharing service is good for uploading photos. Xournal also uploads PDFs it generates from the note-taking interface through this service.

The Evernote mobile Web page works fine.

There is no native Evernote client for any version of Maemo. There is a rumored third party Evernote backend for Conboy in early development.

Laughing Man 2009-11-26 02:08

Re: Evernote
 
What a shame, I was hoping to be able to edit notes without going to the main webpage.

angelb 2009-11-26 02:46

Re: Evernote
 
Then this must be a mistake or a fake:

http://maemo.nokia.com/maemo-select/...ions/evernote/

Laughing Man 2009-11-26 02:48

Re: Evernote
 
I believe that's just their mobile webpage when using it on the n900..

frethop 2009-11-26 11:44

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by angelb (Post 392847)
Then this must be a mistake or a fake:

http://maemo.nokia.com/maemo-select/...ions/evernote/

Yeah...I jumped at that too. (I'm a big Evernote user.) But the screenshots are just of the sharing service and the mobile Web page. Kinda cheap...

I asked tech support about a Linux client for Evernote a few months ago. The reply I got said they are not doing a Linux client but were hoping someone would come up with one.

Hassayampa Slim 2009-11-27 00:20

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 392850)
I believe that's just their mobile webpage when using it on the n900..

It appears this is an actual app that can be downloaded for the N900 Maemo 5. I don't know what all features it allows access to, but it's not just viewing Evernote.com/mobile in the browser. If nothing else it appears to offer better formatting, so why can't we get this app for OS2008? I became addicted to Evernote over a year ago, and would love to see this on my 810 instead of just accessing in the browser.

fpp 2009-12-12 17:34

Re: Evernote
 
It sucks that Maemo's own Notes app doesn't have a "share" option like the image viewer. We really need Conboy with support for "share profiles"...

Hassayampa Slim 2009-12-12 19:25

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 424579)
It sucks that Maemo's own Notes app doesn't have a "share" option like the image viewer. We really need Conboy with support for "share profiles"...

I'm lost at this. Do you see some way to access Evernote thru Conboy???

filbert 2009-12-14 21:58

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hassayampa Slim (Post 394869)
It appears this is an actual app that can be downloaded for the N900 Maemo 5. I don't know what all features it allows access to, but it's not just viewing Evernote.com/mobile in the browser. If nothing else it appears to offer better formatting, so why can't we get this app for OS2008? I became addicted to Evernote over a year ago, and would love to see this on my 810 instead of just accessing in the browser.

I have installed this app on my N900 but can't see any sign of it - or how I can use it. Has anyone else worked it out?

Rgrds

Peter

digittante 2009-12-14 22:58

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by filbert (Post 427871)
I have installed this app on my N900 but can't see any sign of it - or how I can use it. Has anyone else worked it out?

Rgrds

Peter

The Evernote 'app' as such simply adds a new entry in the Sharing Accounts applet of the Settings panel so that you can configure the phone with your Evernote website account credentials (just like configuring your Flickr account).

Then, when you take a photo, you can share it to Evernote.

That's it. Kinda nice and simple. I haven't found any other apps that support sharing-to-Evernote this way, but I haven't looked to hard. . .

kasimkn 2009-12-15 01:04

Re: Evernote
 
Hi,....I'm suffering from same problem....installed the app but no idea how to use it...
on the website i enter my details and it proceeds and then there's only a blank screeen....

anyone know what is supposed to be happening....

Regards

Kasim

digittante 2009-12-15 01:14

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kasimkn (Post 428147)
Hi,....I'm suffering from same problem....installed the app but no idea how to use it...
on the website i enter my details and it proceeds and then there's only a blank screeen....

anyone know what is supposed to be happening....

Regards

Kasim

  1. Install the Evernote App
  2. Go to the Settings Applet for your N900 (like Control Panel for Windoze PC's)
  3. Access Sharing Accounts in the 'Connectivity' section
  4. Click the 'New' button, select 'Evernote' as the Sharing Account type, then enter your Evernote site credentials
  5. Take a photo with the N900.
  6. When the sharing icon appears on-screen (three circles connected in an open triangle), press it and select Evernote as the Sharing Account by which you wish to share the photo
  7. Enter tags, title, description, etc as you wish
  8. Click 'Done'

Your photo will appear in your Evernote account online momentarily.

Should you continue to 'suffer', take two aspirin and get offline for a while...;-)

backwoods 2009-12-15 01:20

Re: Evernote
 
Don't like the fact that you have to post info online. Would be nice if it allowed for storing internally on the n900 only.

Hassayampa Slim 2009-12-15 03:38

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by backwoods (Post 428163)
Don't like the fact that you have to post info online. Would be nice if it allowed for storing internally on the n900 only.

You need to go to Evernote.com and check out the applications purpose, functions and capabilities. The basic idea is to have any and (nearly) all kinds of your data, available and searchable from any PC. Laptop, Netbook, Smart Phone, etc., located anywhere that has Internet access. Once you get used to using it, you become addicted. It is a great tool that can be customized for any work, school, or personal use.
Ah, but alas, there is no app for OS2008... so we can only view, search, and delete entries using the mobile web access.
We can email data and photos directly into Evernote from our NITs though, and that works well.

conny 2009-12-15 09:28

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hassayampa Slim (Post 424695)
I'm lost at this. Do you see some way to access Evernote thru Conboy???

Currently there is no way to access Evernote through Conboy. However there might be in the future. There are two things currently under consideration:

Support for the sharing plugins
We could convert the Conboy notes to something which the Evernote webservice understands and send them through the Evernote sharing plugin. This way we could push Conboy notes to Evernote, but not more.
qwerty12 did a quick test and it looks like the Evernote service does not accept HTML but only PDF. HTML would be easy to create, PDF not that easy.

Evernote plugin for Conboy
There is someone interested in writing a plugin for Conboy which directly supports Evernote. This would be two ways (sending and receiving). There is even some code already, but still many technical problems to solve. I won't say more here - I leave it to this person to unveil the concrete plans. But don't expect anything too soon.

If there are more Conboy specific questions, please feel free to post them here where most of the discussion takes place.

naabi 2009-12-15 11:02

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 428652)
Support for the sharing plugins
We could convert the Conboy notes to something which the Evernote webservice understands and send them through the Evernote sharing plugin. This way we could push Conboy notes to Evernote, but not more.
qwerty12 did a quick test and it looks like the Evernote service does not accept HTML but only PDF. HTML would be easy to create, PDF not that easy.

API documentation says it has limited support for XHTML:

Before submitting HTML content over the EDAM API the client application is expected to follow the following steps:

1.Convert the document into valid XML
2.Discard all tags that are not accepted by the ENML DTD
3.Convert tags to the proper ENML equivalent (e.g. BODY becomes EN-NOTE)
4.Validate against the ENML DTD
5.Validate href and src values to be valid URLs and protocols

ENML permits the use of the following standard XHTML elements:

A, ABBR, ACRONYM, ADDRESS, AREA, B, BDO, BIG, BLOCKQUOTE, BR, CAPTION, CENTER, CITE, CODE, COL, COLGROUP, DD, DEL, DFN, DIV, DL, DT, EM, FONT, H1, H2, H3, H4, H5, H6, HR, I, IMG, INS, KBD, LI, MAP, OL, P PRE, Q, S, SAMP, SMALL, SPAN, STRIKE, STRONG, SUB, SUP, TABLE, TBODY, TD, TFOOT, TH, THEAD, TITLE, TR, TT, U, UL, VAR, XMP

The following XHTML elements are not included in ENML:

APPLET, BASE, BASEFONT, BGSOUND, BLINK, BODY, BUTTON, DIR, EMBED, FIELDSET, FORM, FRAME, FRAMESET, HEAD, HTML, IFRAME, ILAYER, INPUT, ISINDEX, LABEL, LAYER, LEGEND, LINK, MARQUEE, MENU, META, NOFRAMES, NOSCRIPT, OBJECT, OPTGROUP, OPTION, PARAM, PLAINTEXT, SCRIPT, SELECT, STYLE, TEXTAREA, XML

A number of attributes are also disallowed from the supported XHTML elements:

id, class, style, onclick, ondblclick, on* …, accesskey, data, dynsrc, tabindex

URLs within ENML must use one of the following protocols: http, https, file

Other potentially dangerous protocols (e.g. javascript, vbscript, etc.) are disallowed, and documents using these protocols will be rejected by the service.

CSS must be stripped from note contents. This includes removing all <style> elements, attributes, etc. The ENML DTD prohibits all CSS-related elements.

fpp 2009-12-15 12:02

Re: Evernote
 
Conboy as an Evernote "client" would realy, really cool !
The built-in "Notes" app doesn't even have a "share" option...

aironeous 2009-12-15 12:17

Re: Evernote
 
I have never understood the purpose of evernote until one of you above explained it here, even though I have it on my PC. When someone showed the list of n900 apps avaible from ovi store i saw the evernote icon.

conny 2009-12-15 12:20

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by naabi (Post 428744)
API documentation says it has limited support for XHTML:

[I]Before submitting HTML content over the EDAM API the client application is expected to follow the following steps:

1.Convert the document into valid XML
2.Discard all tags that are not accepted by the ENML DTD
3.Convert tags to the proper ENML equivalent (e.g. BODY becomes EN-NOTE)
4.Validate against the ENML DTD
5.Validate href and src values to be valid URLs and protocols
[...]

This is very good information. Thanks a lot naabi. Basically this means we need to write a Tomboy-XML to ENML converter*. I'm planning to add support for converters to Conboy at some point, then hopefully we can integrate that nicely. It will take some time, though...

* or Tomboy-XML -> XHTML -> ENML

naabi 2009-12-15 12:24

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 428825)
* or Tomboy-XML -> XHTML -> ENML

This solution could be feasable for supporting other sharing services also.

conny 2009-12-15 12:29

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by naabi (Post 428829)
This solution could be feasable for supporting other sharing services also.

Yes, XHTML is probably useful for other things as well. E.g., sending a note to a non-maemo smart phone via bluetooth.

Now we only need someone who writes the converter (in C please) ;)

Hassayampa Slim 2009-12-19 15:49

Re: Evernote
 
Evernote has just announced an app for Android http://blog.evernote.com/2009/12/16/...roid-its-here/
Maybe someone with the required talent will now be able to port this over for OS2008. I suppose we could always load Android on to our N8xx, but I'n not quite ready for that yet.

jwi 2009-12-30 11:27

Re: Evernote
 
There seems to be one not implemented feature in Evernote pluign, what I miss. It doesn't move geotags to notes it make. Evernote supports "geotaggin" of notes, so that would be nice feature to have.

nergal 2010-01-15 09:13

Re: Evernote
 
just asked on evernote page for a maemo5 evernote client.
maybe all users should do that, who wish it.

they have android support, can't be to hard for them to make a build for other linux based mobile OS.

conny 2010-01-15 09:47

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nergal (Post 473552)
they have android support, can't be to hard for them to make a build for other linux based mobile OS.

Don't count on it. Maemo and Android are two completely different beasts. There is no easy porting between those two. Unfortunately.

BillyTheFish 2010-01-29 13:58

Re: Evernote
 
Does anyone know if anyone is having a go at writing an Evernote app for Maemo 5?

I've had a play with Conboy and I'm really not too keen on it. Putting in note via the Evernote webpage is a bit of a pain and it would be great to have an offline store of these on the phone for when the internet is unavailable and when I'm roaming.

coosbaytv 2010-01-29 14:33

Re: Evernote
 
this is one of the key reasons I am using the latest Fennec browser!
there is a plugin (Shareaholic) that allows full "clip to evernote" functionality to easily save browser clippings to my evernote account.
I then use the mobile version of evernote to read the clipping later from the same device (n810)...

BillyTheFish 2010-02-05 11:11

Re: Evernote
 
I'm more looking for the functionality of the desktop app.

Basically, I love the idea of my notes being on the cloud but I'd like to be able to edit and use them via an app (as the website's a little clunky). I would also like to be able to have a local database stored that gets synchronised when I'm not roaming.

sorodoros 2010-03-09 18:35

Re: Evernote
 
Is Xournal the only note app that can "share" to Evernote?

dharder 2010-03-14 08:24

Re: Evernote
 
Has anyone been able to access the website in non-mobile mode? Firefox will but the native browser on my N900 won't.

BillyTheFish 2010-03-14 17:57

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dharder (Post 566650)
Has anyone been able to access the website in non-mobile mode? Firefox will but the native browser on my N900 won't.

Yes, just point it at www.evernote.com -works for me in the native browser.

Things like Sorting don't work though.

edanto 2010-04-15 16:52

Re: Evernote
 
I'm a bit disappointed!!

Naively, I assumed that the Evernote plugin that's highlighted here http://maemo.nokia.com/maemo-select/...ions/evernote/
would have the same functionality as what I was used to on the iphone.

Damn, I liked Evernote. I'll send them a mail and ask them to make a proper Maemo version. We should all contact them!

Hassayampa Slim 2010-04-17 23:28

Re: Evernote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edanto (Post 612174)
Damn, I liked Evernote. I'll send them a mail and ask them to make a proper Maemo version. We should all contact them!

Good luck with the Evernote people when you mention Linux....But have you tried the mobile web version? It's not full funtion, but definitely usable. With the ability to forward email to your Evernote account, and the ''Quick Note'' function in the we app, you can still get a lot of functionality out of Everote.


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