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Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:03

HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
I've been using my N97 for the past serveral months.
Got an iPhone 3GS 2 weeks ago, been using that while I wait for my N900
Got my N900 today

Anyone that's the background, straight to the point.
It seems to me the N97 is the only device that gets 3.5G signal.

I have never seen an '3.5G' icon on the iPhone 3GS for the past 2 weeks, even walking about in the city centre where I know it's coveraged by 3.5G, it's still only showing 3G. Does the iPhone 3GS show '3.5G' instead if you're in HSDPA area?

Anyway, my N900 is still charging at the moment.
I have been checking it up from time to time but noticed the same issue as the iPhone 3GS, no 3.5G signal.
  • The phone is placed at my usual 'phone area' exactly where the N97 was, where the N97 always get HSDPA signal.
  • I am using the same sim card, contract sim (O2-UK)

Only N97 has managed to pick up 3.5G so far.

DannStarr 2009-11-26 23:06

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
iPhone 3gs never shows 3.5g

I can't pass comment on n900 yet, but would have thought it would be in the manual?

jjx 2009-11-26 23:06

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 394742)
I've been using my N97 for the past serveral months.
Got an iPhone 3GS 2 weeks ago, been using that while I wait for my N900
Got my N900 today

Anyone that's the background, straight to the point.
It seems to me the N97 is the only device that gets 3.5G signal.

I have never seen an '3.5G' icon on the iPhone 3GS for the past 2 weeks, even walking about in the city centre where I know it's coveraged by 3.5G, it's still only showing 3G. Does the iPhone 3GS show '3.5G' instead if you're in HSDPA area?

Anyway, my N900 is still charging at the moment.
I have been checking it up from time to time but noticed the same issue as the iPhone 3GS, no 3.5G signal.
  • The phone is placed at my usual 'phone area' exactly where the N97 was, where the N97 always get HSDPA signal.
  • I am using the same sim card, contract sim (O2-UK)

Only N97 has managed to pick up 3.5G so far.

Elsewhere it's been noted that 3.5G only shows when you're actively using the data connection. Is that the issue?

Then again, S60 (in my experience, not N97) does the same so I'm guessing you're already familiar with that.

jjx 2009-11-26 23:07

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 394742)
Got an iPhone 3GS 2 weeks ago, been using that while I wait for my N900

:eek: Am I the only person here who can't afford to buy an iPhone 3GS just for 2 weeks use as a stopgap? ;)

pr0xyfl00d3r 2009-11-26 23:08

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
checkout page 16 of the manual

pr0xyfl00d3r 2009-11-26 23:10

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
and 31/32 where does say bout the connected thing

Bundyo 2009-11-26 23:12

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
No, it shows when you have 3.5 signal.

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:16

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
From those preview videos. The N900 should be showing 3.5G

I'm gonna put another O2 sim into the N97 now.

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:18

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0xyfl00d3r (Post 394755)
and 31/32 where does say bout the connected thing

I don't have page 31 & 32 :eek:
Only goes up to 22..

pr0xyfl00d3r 2009-11-26 23:20

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 394770)
I don't have page 31 & 32 :eek:
Only goes up to 22..

click here and download the pdf

evad 2009-11-26 23:22

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 394767)
From those preview videos. The N900 should be showing 3.5G

AFAIK most phones only display 3.5G icon when device is actively trasmitting data in the background. However, it depends on both 3G network implementation AND specific device software whether to display that icon while idle.

Nonetheless, that's interesting what you're seeing there. Did you try putting different network's SIM card into N900?

Vodrin 2009-11-26 23:22

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
working fine on my virgin sim

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:25

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vodrin (Post 394775)
working fine on my virgin sim

As in you're getting the 3.5G icon on idle? (not actively trasmitting data in the background)

Quindor 2009-11-26 23:28

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
All I can do to add to this topic is to tell you that my N900 picks of 3.5G just fine.

I live in the Netherlands and use t-mobile.

In my perception the reception is very good compared to other mobiles.

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:29

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evad (Post 394773)
AFAIK most phones only display 3.5G icon when device is actively trasmitting data in the background. However, it depends on both 3G network implementation AND specific device software whether to display that icon while idle.

Nonetheless, that's interesting what you're seeing there. Did you try putting different network's SIM card into N900?

Not yet mate.
Still charging at the moment. I'll check it out once charging is done.

MNX1024 2009-11-26 23:30

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
I'm using my N900 with T-Mobile USA, only get 3.5G when I'm using data. When it's voice only, I get 3g.

I'm actually experiencing a weird issue with my N900. If I don't set my phone to 3G only, when I hit 2.5G or 2G, while I'm using data, the phone won't reconnect on edge. Basically data doesn't work what so ever when voice is on 2G or 2.5G. I know for sure it's not the sim or network's issue because I'm using the same card on my old phone and I don't have any issue with edge.

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:32

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MNX1024 (Post 394789)
I'm using my N900 with T-Mobile USA, only get 3.5G when I'm using data. When it's voice only, I get 3g.

I'm actually experiencing a weird issue with my N900. If I don't set my phone to 3G only, when I hit 2.5G or 2G, while I'm using data, the phone won't reconnect on edge. Basically data doesn't work what so ever when voice is on 2G or 2.5G. I know for sure it's not the sim or network's issue because I'm using the same card on my old phone and I don't have any issue with edge.

Interesting that, I want to give it a try, where do you go to set it to non-3G (using GSM only)?

Have you try Dual mode?

Nevermind, found it. I'll give that a go now.

MNX1024 2009-11-26 23:37

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
The phone use dual mode. I set it to 3G only seeing how my phone can't connect to edge. As for your question, yes. If you set it to GSM only, you'll get 2G and 2.5G depending on your area.

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:41

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Yay!
Showing 3.5G now :)

Had it on 3G only mode. Only show 3.5G when I started web browsing.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/634785557.png

That's pretty cr@p to be honest on 3.5G
But probably because O2-UK 3G network sucks

nilchak 2009-11-26 23:42

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jjx (Post 394748)
Elsewhere it's been noted that 3.5G only shows when you're actively using the data connection. Is that the issue?

That is right.
On my N95 it showns 3G. But when I am actively connected and browsing over the connection, the phone shows 3.5G during the active connection.

Once disconnected it goes back to idle showing just 3G again.

evad 2009-11-26 23:44

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 394806)
Yay!
Showing 3.5G now :)

Had it on 3G only mode. Only show 3.5G when I started web browsing

So it works as most phones on the market then (and all Nokias afaik). :)

Venomrush 2009-11-26 23:51

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MNX1024 (Post 394789)
I'm actually experiencing a weird issue with my N900. If I don't set my phone to 3G only, when I hit 2.5G or 2G, while I'm using data, the phone won't reconnect on edge. Basically data doesn't work what so ever when voice is on 2G or 2.5G. I know for sure it's not the sim or network's issue because I'm using the same card on my old phone and I don't have any issue with edge.

I've just switched to using GSM only.
Browse the net, it's working fine for me, connected to 2.5G

http://www.speedtest.net/result/634789107.png

I think it's network settings related.

T-Mobile might have different username for EDGE compare to their 3G network.

Here, O2-UK uses the same settings on both EDGE & 3G, before EDGE uses username wap and 3G uses internet I think, now both uses mobile so you get 2.5 or 3G no matter what.

MNX1024 2009-11-27 00:11

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
What I meant was if I were to use dual mode. This doesn't happen if I were to limit myself to only one of the options. Basically if I were in a 3G coverage area and was using 3G data, once I go to an area with 2G only, the data won't reconnect onto edge.

Venomrush 2009-11-27 00:14

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MNX1024 (Post 394854)
What I meant was if I were to use dual mode. This doesn't happen if I were to limit myself to only one of the options. Basically if I were in a 3G coverage area and was using 3G data, once I go to an area with 2G only, the data won't reconnect onto edge.

Can you throw this issue into Bugzilla?

Vodrin 2009-11-27 00:46

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
0.55Mb/s is just the same as 3g. Sure that O2 offers HDSPA 3.5G in your location?

thinh 2009-11-27 00:59

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
yeah i hope get 3.5g sometimes, i really hope t-mobile improve the 3g service more in chicago but overall it's still pretty good

MNX1024 2009-11-27 01:07

Re: HSDPA (3.5G) issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 394861)
Can you throw this issue into Bugzilla?

It would be nice if you can tell me how.


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