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jerryfreak 2009-11-27 23:16

guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
so if apple sells 3-7 million iphones per quarter, and nokia was selling 3-5 million E71s and N97s per quarter, how many sales and preorders do you think are already on the books?

500k? 1 million?

considering their presale pricing has been pretty aggressive, with phones to be found from $450-$550, once its out en masse for $400 this will be a record setter for nokia for sure. they may have sold that many units in the past, but not combined with flagship unit prices.

i cant see how this cant double-outsell the n97 that did 3 million in its first 2 mos.

nirave 2009-11-27 23:22

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
From what I've been told.

In the UK:

MPD - 10,000 (sim-free/contract orders)
Nokia Retail - 4,000
Nokia Online Shop - 45,000

Total: 59,000 pre-orders.

Not 100% sure about the NOS figure but the other two were correct as of Tuesday gone.

biatch0 2009-11-29 20:03

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Those are some real nice numbers.

Obviously not launching the N900 in Asia was a good choice!

</sarcasm>

phreck 2009-11-29 20:19

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pretty sure the pricepoint will put a damper on USA sales. guess we will see.

nuknuk 2009-11-29 20:22

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
guesstimate how many N900s will get sent back.

romanianusa 2009-11-29 20:22

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
1 unit sold so far.

noobmonkey 2009-11-29 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 399605)
guesstimate how many N900s will get sent back.

at least 1? :)

phreck 2009-11-29 20:34

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 399605)
guesstimate how many N900s will get sent back.

you should stop crying now.

spinnukur 2009-11-29 20:39

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 399605)
guesstimate how many N900s will get sent back.

I would say at least 48% of all N900 owners will be returning their product--either because it's not what they expected or the phone broke

Aweb 2009-11-29 20:44

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nirave (Post 396954)
From what I've been told.

In the UK:

MPD - 10,000 (sim-free/contract orders)
Nokia Retail - 4,000
Nokia Online Shop - 45,000

Total: 59,000 pre-orders.

Not 100% sure about the NOS figure but the other two were correct as of Tuesday gone.

Wow, that's quite a huge number, things are going great then :)

somedude 2009-11-29 20:46

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one from my side is going back or I will end up selling to someone else because I have ordered two: 1 from Nokia USA and 1 from Dell

edit:
found this I do not know if you all have seen this, i thought this was going to be better place to put since we were talking apple in here too.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/keynote.png
Credits:
http;//xkcd.com

phreck 2009-11-29 20:52

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spinnukur (Post 399633)
I would say at least 48% of all N900 owners will be returning their product--either because it's not what they expected or the phone broke

lol.

what is it that people you think were expecting? my expectations of this device were low, mainly because its a 1st gen device, and honestly a pretty raw product.

no i didnt think this device would be like other smartphones, and thats probably why im not dissapointed.

get real people. the bleeding edge isnt all fast paced glorious tech porn. its a ****ed up place where the people who give a flying **** strive to make things better for the masses. this my friends is a fact that is nearly never accounted for, and should more often be.

bad hardware is bad hardware. happens to everyone once or twice. i can say that the build quality on the device is stellar. no issues for me.

point being, patience everyone...things will get better. alot better. the more of these that are sold worldwide the better for the community. wait and see.

Venomrush 2009-11-29 21:27

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We'll just have to wait for Nokia quarterly report to see ;)

But so far up to October 2009:

Devices & Services in 3Q09: Highlights
•Shipped 1.8 million N97 devices and 5.7 million touchscreen devices altogether
•Shipped 4.4 million Eseries devices


NOKIA MOBILE DEVICE VOLUME BY GEOGRAPHIC AREA Q3/2009
Europe 27.1 million units
Middle East & Africa 19.6 million units
Greater China 18.5 million units
Asia-Pacific 30.5 million units
North America 3.1 million units
Latin America 9.7 million units

Devices & Services Annoucements Q3/2009
- Nokia acquired certain assets of cellity, a mobile software company that has developed a solution for
aggregating address book data, as well as certain assets of Plum Ventures, Inc, a privately held company that
develops and operates a cloud-based social media sharing and messaging service for private groups. Nokia
also acquired Dopplr Oy, a privately-held mobile service provider for international travelers. All three
acquisitions enable Nokia to accelerate the delivery of Ovi services and bring additional internet services talent
to its Services unit.
- Nokia announced Nokia Money, a new mobile financial service giving mobile device users access to basic
financial services. The service is to be rolled out gradually to selected markets in early 2010 and will be
operated in cooperation with Obopay, a leading developer of mobile payment solutions in which Nokia
invested earlier this year.
- Nokia announced a global alliance with Microsoft to design and market a suite of productivity applications for
Nokia's range of Symbian smartphones, starting with Nokia’s business-optimized Eseries range of devices.
- Nokia announced the Nokia N900, a handset that delivers computer-grade performance in a compact QWERTY
and touch form factor. The Nokia N900 runs on Maemo, a desktop PC-like software architecture based on the
open source Linux software.
- Nokia announced the Nokia Booklet 3G, a new Windows 7-based mini-laptop. The Nokia Booklet 3G is encased
in an ultra-portable aluminum chassis, runs for up to 12 hours on a single charge and has a broad range of
connectivity options.
- Nokia announced the Nokia N97 mini, a companion to the Nokia N97. The Nokia N97 mini will be the first
device to feature Ovi lifecasting, an application developed together with Facebook that enables people for the
first time to publish their location and status updates directly to their Facebook account from the home screen
of a mobile device.
- Nokia announced the Nokia X6, a powerful entertainment device with 32GB of on-board memory that, in select
markets, will be available in combination with Comes With Music, Nokia’s ‘all-you-can-eat-music’ offering.
Nokia also announced the Nokia X3, an affordable music device and the first Series 40-powered device enabled
for Ovi Store, Nokia’s store for applications and content.
- Nokia announced the Nokia 5230, an affordable touch smartphone that, in select markets, will also be
available in combination with Comes With Music.
- Nokia launched Comes With Music in Austria, the Netherlands and South Africa during the quarter, with the
offering now available on 17 Nokia devices across 12 countries altogether. Additionally, Nokia launched Nokia
Music Store in India during the quarter, with the chain of digital music stores now localized for 22 countries.
- Nokia announced the Nokia 5800 Navigation Edition, a touch handset preloaded with a lifetime of voiceguided
Drive and Walk navigation licenses for the user’s region.
- Nokia announced and commenced shipments of the Nokia 3720 classic, a rugged handset designed to resist
water, dust and shock.
- Nokia Messaging, Nokia’s consumer email service, continued to gain traction among operators with six new
agreements announced during the quarter. Nokia Messaging is now available to Nokia users in more than 50
countries and approximately 1 million users are now registered. Additionally, more than 2 million people have
now activated an Ovi Mail account. Ovi Mail is an email solution developed especially for consumers in
emerging markets.
- Nokia announced the Ovi SDK Beta, the Ovi Maps Player API for mobile and Ovi Navigation Player API, enabling
the creation of rich applications for the web as well as the Symbian and Maemo platforms, and which will be
distributed through the Ovi Store. Ovi developer tools are a key focus area as we continue to expand our
services offering for consumers and create opportunities for developers and content providers.

Venomrush 2009-11-29 21:38

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Seeing the sales figure for Asia, it's huge!
I'm not sure why N900 isn't hitting the Asian market yet.
Nokia will make loads...

Also noticed
- Nokia announced and commenced shipments of the Nokia 3720 classic, a rugged handset designed to resist
water, dust and shock.

Love it. Probably gonna get myself a 3720 when I go hiking! instead of carrying the useless N900 while in the jungle :p

msa 2009-11-29 21:44

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obviously, they sold more than they produced.

or what exactly is the reason i still dont have my n900 in my own hands?

Bernard 2009-11-29 22:09

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venomrush (Post 399701)
We'll just have to wait for Nokia quarterly report to see ;)

But so far up to October 2009:

Devices & Services in 3Q09: Highlights
•Shipped 1.8 million N97 devices and 5.7 million touchscreen devices altogether
•Shipped 4.4 million Eseries devices


NOKIA MOBILE DEVICE VOLUME BY GEOGRAPHIC AREA Q3/2009
Europe 27.1 million units
Middle East & Africa 19.6 million units
Greater China 18.5 million units
Asia-Pacific 30.5 million units
North America 3.1 million units
Latin America 9.7 million units

Devices & Services Annoucements Q3/2009
- Nokia acquired certain assets of cellity, a mobile software company that has developed a solution for
aggregating address book data, as well as certain assets of Plum Ventures, Inc, a privately held company that
develops and operates a cloud-based social media sharing and messaging service for private groups. Nokia
also acquired Dopplr Oy, a privately-held mobile service provider for international travelers. All three
acquisitions enable Nokia to accelerate the delivery of Ovi services and bring additional internet services talent
to its Services unit.
- Nokia announced Nokia Money, a new mobile financial service giving mobile device users access to basic
financial services. The service is to be rolled out gradually to selected markets in early 2010 and will be
operated in cooperation with Obopay, a leading developer of mobile payment solutions in which Nokia
invested earlier this year.
- Nokia announced a global alliance with Microsoft to design and market a suite of productivity applications for
Nokia's range of Symbian smartphones, starting with Nokia’s business-optimized Eseries range of devices.
- Nokia announced the Nokia N900, a handset that delivers computer-grade performance in a compact QWERTY
and touch form factor. The Nokia N900 runs on Maemo, a desktop PC-like software architecture based on the
open source Linux software.
- Nokia announced the Nokia Booklet 3G, a new Windows 7-based mini-laptop. The Nokia Booklet 3G is encased
in an ultra-portable aluminum chassis, runs for up to 12 hours on a single charge and has a broad range of
connectivity options.
- Nokia announced the Nokia N97 mini, a companion to the Nokia N97. The Nokia N97 mini will be the first
device to feature Ovi lifecasting, an application developed together with Facebook that enables people for the
first time to publish their location and status updates directly to their Facebook account from the home screen
of a mobile device.
- Nokia announced the Nokia X6, a powerful entertainment device with 32GB of on-board memory that, in select
markets, will be available in combination with Comes With Music, Nokia’s ‘all-you-can-eat-music’ offering.
Nokia also announced the Nokia X3, an affordable music device and the first Series 40-powered device enabled
for Ovi Store, Nokia’s store for applications and content.
- Nokia announced the Nokia 5230, an affordable touch smartphone that, in select markets, will also be
available in combination with Comes With Music.
- Nokia launched Comes With Music in Austria, the Netherlands and South Africa during the quarter, with the
offering now available on 17 Nokia devices across 12 countries altogether. Additionally, Nokia launched Nokia
Music Store in India during the quarter, with the chain of digital music stores now localized for 22 countries.
- Nokia announced the Nokia 5800 Navigation Edition, a touch handset preloaded with a lifetime of voiceguided
Drive and Walk navigation licenses for the user’s region.
- Nokia announced and commenced shipments of the Nokia 3720 classic, a rugged handset designed to resist
water, dust and shock.
- Nokia Messaging, Nokia’s consumer email service, continued to gain traction among operators with six new
agreements announced during the quarter. Nokia Messaging is now available to Nokia users in more than 50
countries and approximately 1 million users are now registered. Additionally, more than 2 million people have
now activated an Ovi Mail account. Ovi Mail is an email solution developed especially for consumers in
emerging markets.
- Nokia announced the Ovi SDK Beta, the Ovi Maps Player API for mobile and Ovi Navigation Player API, enabling
the creation of rich applications for the web as well as the Symbian and Maemo platforms, and which will be
distributed through the Ovi Store. Ovi developer tools are a key focus area as we continue to expand our
services offering for consumers and create opportunities for developers and content providers.


The amount of sold touchscreen devices will definitely go up A LOT.
The 5230 has a really good price/performance ratio, and will sell better than the 5800 because of it. And the N97 mini, X6 and N900 offer a very strong high-end consumer product (all-round smartphone, music/fashion focussed and cutting edge slightly geek oriented).

I wonder if/when Symbian touch devices will pass iPhone in total units sold. The same for Maemo and Android (also if/when).

nuknuk 2009-11-29 22:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phreck (Post 399623)
you should stop crying now.

wind your neck in nomark.

Tintin 2009-11-29 22:39

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 399780)
wind your neck in nomark.

Your N900 isn't working Nuknuk?
I remember you being one of the more excited people here about the new phone.

nuknuk 2009-11-29 22:48

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i still am now lets get back on topic.

nashith 2009-11-29 22:52

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I agree with phreck, all this is very similar to Linux for me in general. I get excited whenever Yum/Apt tell me there is huge *** update to my Linux systems. Sure sometimes things just break but you also get upgrades and new features. I am pretty sure Maemo (N900) experience would be similar as well from what people do so far with the previous NITs.

phreck 2009-11-29 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nuknuk (Post 399780)
wind your neck in nomark.

awwww. its all gonna be ok. i pwomise.

spinnukur 2009-11-29 23:58

Re: guesstimate how many N900s theyve sold so far
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phreck (Post 399652)
lol.

what is it that people you think were expecting? my expectations of this device were low, mainly because its a 1st gen device, and honestly a pretty raw product.

no i didnt think this device would be like other smartphones, and thats probably why im not dissapointed.

get real people. the bleeding edge isnt all fast paced glorious tech porn. its a ****ed up place where the people who give a flying **** strive to make things better for the masses. this my friends is a fact that is nearly never accounted for, and should more often be.

bad hardware is bad hardware. happens to everyone once or twice. i can say that the build quality on the device is stellar. no issues for me.

point being, patience everyone...things will get better. alot better. the more of these that are sold worldwide the better for the community. wait and see.

My expectations aren't low, nor do I have it yet. I'm basing my hypothetical assumption on the amount of people I've seen saying they're having issue with their phone. Those people having issues are in the majority from all the people I've seen post about having the phone in their hands.

benny1967 2009-11-30 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phreck (Post 399652)
what is it that people you think were expecting? my expectations of this device were low, mainly because its a 1st gen device, and honestly a pretty raw product.


it maybe a pretty raw product, but it certainly isn't a 1st gen device. it's just that they decided at some point that they throw all their (phone- and tablet-) experience overboard and make it look like a first gen device...

maxximuscool 2009-11-30 00:33

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I think the reason why Nokia N900 isnt releasing in ASIA because NOKIA THINK Asian people got very little tiny hands lol. And the device is too large for the little hands to hold and operates.

Obviously NOKIA will make a Nokia N900 - Mini to tackle this issues for ASIA release.

hehehehhahahah

maxximuscool 2009-11-30 00:37

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found this..
This site got: 15685 order
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/...!#Availability

that is the amount on hold waiting for the shipment pre-order.

Carl Ed 2009-11-30 00:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 399929)
found this..
This site got: 15685 order
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/...!#Availability

that is the amount on hold waiting for the shipment pre-order.

And waiting...and waiting...and waiting...

I'm sure the number of units sold will increase significantly once people can start buying the device from their favourite retailer and not have to hop around like a flea circus trying to find somewhere that has it in stock.

bmac 2009-11-30 02:48

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im calling bs on that blt site.. i can't fathom over 15,000 people ordered a $600 phone from some place none of us have heard of before we all got bored waiting for our phones to ship and started googling. and if that place was doing that kind of business, enough to order over $13 million worth of stock for a single product, you'd think they'd have enough money to make their website not suck.

Carl Ed 2009-11-30 06:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bmac (Post 400018)
im calling bs on that blt site.. i can't fathom over 15,000 people ordered a $600 phone from some place none of us have heard of before we all got bored waiting for our phones to ship and started googling. and if that place was doing that kind of business, enough to order over $13 million worth of stock for a single product, you'd think they'd have enough money to make their website not suck.

BLT is a wholesaler, not just a retailer. Some (possibly even most) of those units will be for stores, not consumers.

vins 2009-11-30 06:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 399925)
I think the reason why Nokia N900 isnt releasing in ASIA because NOKIA THINK Asian people got very little tiny hands lol. And the device is too large for the little hands to hold and operates.

Obviously NOKIA will make a Nokia N900 - Mini to tackle this issues for ASIA release.

hehehehhahahah

I think the asian will get the hype and overbought it, until then they'll rage that this device doesnt make any sense to vast majority of them. I'm in asia and i'm eagerly waiting for this phone to be officially available in my country.

maxximuscool 2009-11-30 07:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vins (Post 400185)
I think the asian will get the hype and overbought it, until then they'll rage that this device doesnt make any sense to vast majority of them. I'm in asia and i'm eagerly waiting for this phone to be officially available in my country.

Yeah man I'm in ASIA-Pacific lol.. Beside I'm Asian So i can make fun of ASIAN without being called Racist hahahah. Just like negros and whities. lol:D

Asian don't really have racism lol.. Somehow we dont hahah

vins 2009-11-30 07:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 400198)
Yeah man I'm in ASIA-Pacific lol.. Beside I'm Asian So i can make fun of ASIAN without being called Racist hahahah. Just like negros and whities. lol:D

Asian don't really have racism lol.. Somehow we dont hahah

well, careful man. you'll be kicked in the a*s by your own people. ahahah.

regarding the topic, just estimate the prod capacity of nokia. I think there'll be a few hundred thousand devices shipped.

bmac 2009-11-30 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Ed (Post 400177)
BLT is a wholesaler, not just a retailer. Some (possibly even most) of those units will be for stores, not consumers.

i'm still suspicious of a company with 5 employees and annual sales of 2.5 million a year to have already received over $9 million in sales from this one product. i don't see anything on their site for stores or retailers to buy anything at wholesale prices..unless their wholesale price is the $600 tag that's higher than everyone else who is selling the n900.

i guess though if their numbers are true, then its going to be a banner year for them thanks to the n900.

biatch0 2009-12-02 01:41

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Quote:

NOKIA MOBILE DEVICE VOLUME BY GEOGRAPHIC AREA Q3/2009
Europe 27.1 million units
Middle East & Africa 19.6 million units
Greater China 18.5 million units
Asia-Pacific 30.5 million units
North America 3.1 million units
Latin America 9.7 million units
Ok, so which genius thought that Asia wasn't a developed market and the N900 should just skip Asia?

Laughing Man 2009-12-02 01:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 400198)
Yeah man I'm in ASIA-Pacific lol.. Beside I'm Asian So i can make fun of ASIAN without being called Racist hahahah. Just like negros and whities. lol:D

Asian don't really have racism lol.. Somehow we dont hahah

That's because Asians are racist to each other based on ethnicity (at least the ones I've noticed). Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, they all insult each other.

dgeros 2009-12-02 03:07

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I remember I was in the Philippines/Thailand (Asia-Pacific) a few years ago, and the top of the line Nokia and SE were regarded as the best mobiles. This is anecdotal, and based on the people/shops I encountered.

However, I've always had a feeling that most people thought Nokia was Japanese. のきあ・ノキア. It sound Japanese phonetically.... at least. Maybe its just me.

nashith 2009-12-02 04:46

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I agree with dgeros, sure you see iPhones and Motos around, but the vast majority of the phones are either Nokia or Sony Erricson. But now a lot of Chinese brands are becoming common place and Samsung is catching up as well. I still see strong growth for Nokia devices, for some reason people are willing to spend $500 for a E72 where I live.


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