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Peet 2009-11-30 17:27

Nokia plans just one Linux phone next year: source
 
Nokia plans just one Linux phone next year: source

Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:05am EST

HELSINKI (Reuters) - The world's top cellphone maker, Nokia, plans to install Linux software on just one new smartphone next year, a source with direct knowledge of Nokia's product roadmap told Reuters.

A Nokia spokesman said the company does not comment on future product plans.

Nokia's Linux Maemo operating system is seen as a key for the top cellphone maker in its battle against Apple's iPhone, and many analysts and industry players have expected the firm to roll out numerous Linux models already next year.

Nokia started to sell its first Linux phone, the top-of-the-range model N900, this month.

The plan for just one Linux phone also dampens rumors the company would replace the Symbian operating system in its line-up.

"We remain firmly committed to Symbian as our smartphone platform of choice," the Nokia spokesman said.

Nokia will hold its capital markets day on Wednesday, an event where the firm traditionally has outlined or updated its strategy for the coming 1-2 years.

Texrat 2009-11-30 17:28

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Possible key word: "phone". ;)

Rauha 2009-11-30 17:49

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Missing key word: "rumour". ;)

Texrat 2009-11-30 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 401067)
Missing key word: "rumour". ;)

True, as in "source". ;)

sjgadsby 2009-11-30 18:13

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Darn closed sources. You just can't know how much trust you can put into them.

meizirkki 2009-11-30 18:22

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Maemo is not yet ready for the world..?

mrojas 2009-11-30 18:22

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It makes sense. Considering the point at what Fremantle is, and the level they are trying to reach with Harmattan, in a year we would very lucky to see a Maemo 6 device. Probably it will be a refined version of the N900.

texaslabrat 2009-11-30 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 401129)
Probably it will be a refined version of the N900.

If history is any guide, I expect it to be called "N900 mini" ;)

sjgadsby 2009-11-30 18:27

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Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 401131)
If history is any guide, I expect it to be called "N900 mini"

Nokia N900 WiMAX LTE Edition

spanner 2009-11-30 18:28

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Originally Posted by texaslabrat (Post 401131)
If history is any guide, I expect it to be called "N900 mini" ;)

At this rate, I expect it to be called the "N900" :mad:

God 2009-11-30 18:29

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Man, N900 is a big letdown. It can't get away with it, just because it has 9.4 Flash (which soon other devices will get, and even 10+) & it has little desktop windows & the OS is relatively open. It's like a new born baby with 100 syndromes. What a joke

Jack6428 2009-11-30 18:31

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N900 without a hw keyboard, here we come...

mrojas 2009-11-30 18:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by meizirkki (Post 401128)
Maemo is not yet ready for the world..?

In a word: no.

Peet 2009-11-30 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 401019)
Possible key word: "phone". ;)

I hope Texrat is right this once :p and Nokia has chosen - in addition to N900 and its 2010 followup model - to release lower cost "phone companion Internet Tablets" in order to 1) help the Maemo platform to gain many more eyeballs (while users still dangle increasingly low-end Symbian devices around, and 2) to help sell some of those increasingly low-end Symbian devices...

Just make 'em tablets multi-user friendly, ok?

GeraldKo 2009-11-30 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 401019)
Possible key word: "phone". ;)

Oh, I hope you're right.

qole 2009-11-30 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 401019)
Possible key word: "phone". ;)

That's the spirit! Keep up the optimism! ;)

Warning: I believe we will never see another Maemo device that isn't a phone. I don't like that idea, but that's what I believe.

range 2009-11-30 18:56

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 401187)
[...] but that's what I believe.

The truth is out there.

Texrat 2009-11-30 18:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by range (Post 401201)
The truth is out there.

It's certainly rarely in here. :D

sjgadsby 2009-11-30 19:00

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Originally Posted by range (Post 401201)
The truth is out there.

Yes, but thus far, our attempts at the Summits to get qgil, Peter, ragnar, Igor, etc. drunk enough that they say too much have resulted in precious little information leaking out. They do seem to enjoy the game though.

hypnotik 2009-11-30 19:02

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Frankly I'd rather they spent the time and money fixing all the issues with Meamo 5 and the N900 vs. rushing to bust out with new hardware models.

ARJWright 2009-11-30 19:05

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While I'm not a fan of this "rumor;" it would be neat to see a family of Maemo devices come in the next 12-15 months, where three of them look like the three devices from that Nokia in 2015 video. One of the devices in the vid had a (nearly) traditional form factor, and would therefore fit the assumption of one Linux phone device - whereas the other two are in the more "mobile computer" form factor.

This would essentally be a validation of said rumor, and at the same time, another means for sites to get their ad revenue on the simple fact of re-reporting unverifiable data ;)

DaveP1 2009-11-30 19:08

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Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 401146)
N900 without a hw keyboard, here we come...

Given that the N900 is designed as a step towards a new line of devices, I would guess you are spot on. I would say the device will be he N910, will have a capacitive screen, no keyboard, and operate by default in portrait mode. Nokia will compare the response they get to this versus the response to the N900 in order to decide how to build the N1000.

HangLoose 2009-11-30 19:08

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Originally Posted by God (Post 401144)
Man, N900 is a big letdown. It can't get away with it, just because it has 9.4 Flash (which soon other devices will get, and even 10+) & it has little desktop windows & the OS is relatively open. It's like a new born baby with 100 syndromes. What a joke

Do you even have one? Mine is flawless and it is the best handset that I have ever had in my entire life... You say about let down as if other devices are 100% problem free.

Stick the neck out of wonderland Alice...

And by the by, flash 10 was ANNOUNCED with a N900 in hands, Mr Big-Let-Down. Go crying to your iPhone and its weird "YouTube App".

Enyibinakata 2009-11-30 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack6428 (Post 401146)
N900 without a hw keyboard, here we come...

keyboardless n900 ? yuck.

anidel 2009-11-30 23:38

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who else was expecting more than one ?!??!?

we already knew next device will have Harmattan

Laurence 2009-11-30 23:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanner (Post 401142)
At this rate, I expect it to be called the "N900" :mad:

Or simply N910

YoDude 2009-12-01 00:38

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I'm enjoying the game of checkers Nokia is playing with US carriers/service providers.
I have always believed that the "game changer" in North American markets will be the definition of the "customer".
In North America the customer has not been the end user but the carriers themselves. Nokia, I believe wants that to change and a Linux device in particular a Maemo device will change that... slowly. Very slowly relative to market share.

I also believe what qole posted but with regard to connectivity, I believe all future Maemo devices will have cell connectivity, but not all will necessarily emphasize a phone.

The next move in North America will be the 3G Notebook and devices like it. Will carriers offer data only plans? If they do, Nokia will have moved a bit closer to what I think is its goal here.

***

What led the initial growth of cell service in the US was Goverment and Enterprise accounts. Many cell phone users are not the real customer either.

Reggie recently pointed to notes from a talk given @ Mobius 2009 that indicated that more developed countries are OK with having multiple devices.

Quote:

Global Perspective on Converged Devices - Mexico 79% wants converged device, only 29% in USA, 25% in Japan.
I think the success of Kindle may indicate this as well.

What ever may come, I'm thinkin' these last two points will have some bearing. :)

christexaport 2009-12-01 01:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 401879)
Reggie recently pointed to notes from a talk given @ Mobius 2009 that indicated that more developed countries are OK with having multiple devices.



I think the success of Kindle may indicate this as well.

What ever may come, I'm thinkin' these last two points will have some bearing. :)

Notice all of those countries are nascent markets? They're not experienced enough to know how realistic convergence is. I'm sure in a few years those stats will change and move closer to the global numbers. Only a guess, at this stage, however.

covox 2009-12-01 01:28

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Originally Posted by God (Post 401746)
The N900 is a letdown, as are any devices launched atm.
If they would all team up & make ONE good device, instead of 10 crappy ones, we could step forward instead of acting like kids, competing in this industry. But please do keep living in your delusional life. <3

Yeah, you know what would be great? A world without competition. Because when a product becomes untouchable in the marketplace, companies never ever take the opportunity to cut genuine R&D spending and instead focus full-time on marketing and shafting consumers. That never happens!

christexaport 2009-12-01 01:48

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Originally Posted by DaveP1 (Post 401239)
Given that the N900 is designed as a step towards a new line of devices, I would guess you are spot on. I would say the device will be he N910, will have a capacitive screen, no keyboard, and operate by default in portrait mode. Nokia will compare the response they get to this versus the response to the N900 in order to decide how to build the N1000.

You were cool until the "default orientation" stuff. Let ME decide that part, and just support both. Don't take me back to 2006.

zfarooq 2009-12-01 01:49

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Im not surprised with just 1 device, they may want to not have to adopt too much different screen devices, etc keep it simple. Keep Maemo devices at the top, sort of exclusive, to compete with the other smartphones, easier to support and allow the platform to grow.

DaveP1 2009-12-01 17:10

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 401942)
You were cool until the "default orientation" stuff. Let ME decide that part, and just support both. Don't take me back to 2006.

I'm not saying I would want (or not want) any of the features I proposed for the N910. I'm just guessing that Nokia will change things from the N900 to better assess the market and default portrait mode is likely. If enough people like yourself complain about portrait mode (versus the number of people who have complained about landscape mode), then the final step, the N1000 (?) with Maemo 6, will likely have landscape as the default (and vice versa).

christexaport 2009-12-05 00:51

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most devices todat don't have default orientations. The N900 has the most popular form factor, but most other side sliding devices do both orientations.


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