will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Are there any plans to implement swiping left or right on sms's/emails etc, to delete ?

Its much easier and very intuitive, both the pre and iphone do it and its becoming sort of a standard...

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

I hope not. it sounds like it would be a bad move in the UI. Would you like that support in your file manager as well?

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Could always make it optional. Best of both worlds. No reason not to have it.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Good idea, but the implementation needs to be fleshed out to prevent accidental issues.

I'll type this as far as I can without making it a Brainstorm proposal.

This would definitely need to be added not as something in the OS by default, but possibly as part of a "Downloadable Gestures" application.

This application would have two sections of configuration
- Gestures: set default gestures and teach new ones
- Applications: set the default/customized gestures to specific applications or system-wide

Common Gestures (for default)
- double-tap to zoom in/out
- half circle up/down for page up/down
- small "X" on a list item to delete an item
- wave (accelerometer senses device held in portrait mode while being shaken agressively) to send contact information to another recivable device
- tap then tap-drag right to bring up a context menu for an item (think copy/cut text or bring up menu for listed items)
- multi-touch for multiple selections (see post 13 in this thread): user taps on the outer left edge of a list element, and while finger is still on the screen, uses another finger to tap additional items for a multiselect; when left is lifted get the context menu to copy/cut/delete/dupe items.

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In other words, its all possible, but there's a lot of work to be done to ensure that it stays simple. Here's a start, if a developer is willing, there ya go for another application (man I wish I could code).

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

That's a terrible idea because it's natural to think that swiping left or right would just move you around in your history, not delete items from it.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Could make it so the user configures the action for the gesture. Of course if you loan the device to a friend you better watch out or your going have alot of things deleted.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

IMHO: Why, oh why, is somebody requesting an OPTIONAL feature which is common on other brands and established and people start discussing how bad or good this feature is in general.
Seriously, I like blue, you like red. Do not try to argue away somebody's else preferences. If somebody requests swiping as a feature, I totally agree it should be added as an option.

If you ask me if swiping is better, more intuitive, cooler, Iphone, whatever, I can tell you: I like blue.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

no/ei/hindi/nej

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

That's because gestures aren't common features. There isn't just a technological component to them, but a cultural one. Whereas a gesture might mean something to you, it may not contextualize in the same meaning for others.

I took the original idea, and proposed a solution; from there, its better to take that solution and try and get something established - for example an official idea, something like what I did for the ideas.symbian website for a similar common request - or propose something different *that is also a solution.*

Bickering over the bickering about the validity of an idea turns ideas like the one that started this thread into another loud echo-chamber.

Lastly, if you can propose an idea, you also have to be willing to accept that others won't like it - espeically in a community like this one where feedback is essential to the very existenance of the community.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

I was just thinking from a UI consistency point of view. There's no way I could go near a UI that deleted things if I brushed my finger on a touchscreen in a file-manager, and if it can't be done in a file-manager, I wouldn't want it in any other apps.
Fair enough, I don't expect you to agree with me, and if you want an option and enough people agree with you, then you should have that option, and I hope you get it. It sounds even worse than making everything fit in a portrait view on a device with a widescreen aspect ratio. I suppose in a portrait view, you'd really have to have steady fingers to avoid side-swiping stuff into oblivion ...

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying... the choice was a weird one. Your hope to have swiping as a feature is perfectly valid. I just don't see how they think swiping should delete data like that.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

At the moment you hold down to delete, and you get a confirmation box asking to delete correct?

In Sms's, mms, emails, like with the iphone and palm pre, you swipe to the left or right, and there is a confirmation box on the message heading itself . To confirm you tap 'delete'.

This would be only for items where there are lists, even apps you swipe, confirm, it uninstalls Or in the songs list, or with bookmarks.

Its just simplifies it a lot.

Here is what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB8uj48FQME

It is must faster than holding down, and then waiting for a dialogue box, then confirm 'yes'. Other platforms are adopting this am surprised it wasnt implemented.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Gee why don't we fix the basics...like allowing me to select more then 1 e-mail at a time.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

what's wrong with the email delete button at the bottom of the page?

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Nothing, unless you are a fan of simpler hand/finger motions are part of your UX framework.

Its a preference more than anything. But to keep as close as possible to some of the UI aims for Maemo 5, the idea of using a gesture follows better to it than a button at the top/bottom/sides of the screen. Because then you leave such areas for more advanced controls (which puts all kinds of pressures on developers to work with UI folks to make sure things stay simple/usable).

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Exactly...there needs to be new refined ways of doing things that reduce the number of steps and add simplicity.

Given how fluid and user friendly Maemo 5 is, its pretty surprising that the end user has to long press (with a delay) to delete, or click on the top area, bring up menu, click delete, select message to delete, then click delete.

As opposed to swipe, click delete and move on to more important stuff.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

Yeah, that's what I'd assume it would do also, seems kinda natural really..

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

i don't like the delete confirmation myself. just wish I could disable it or recover from the trash

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

What trash? I assume you're not talking about the Maps app :cool:

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Stupid me. I was forgetting that we aren't talking about the file-manager ...

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

so same gesture that opens history @ web browser should be used to delete something in other system app?

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

in history you swipe from off the screen on the right towards the left.

With this, you see the message or song, and on the song itself you swipe, it then asks for confirmation.

Watch the video on my last comment...its wat the iphone/palm webos uses.

makes it very easy and is becoming a standard, coz it reduces the no. of steps.

Re: will swipe to delete for email/sms etc be coming to the N900?
 

sounds cool, but I' weary of adopting some features from nascent platforms that don't take into account other standard features and how they fit with the total package.