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jessi3k3 2009-11-30 23:49

3rd symbol row not working / How to use symbols on virtual keyboard?
 
Hey guys, just got my N900 and I'm trying to configure my wireless network. Well, it turns out my wpa passkey has several carets (^ symbols) so I went on and tried to input them but nothing happens

http://img22.yfrog.com/img22/1111/sc...9113015444.png

I tap on all the symbols on the third row and nothing happens, they just get highlighted. Tried highlight then enter and it didnt work. I tried the same in the browser and notes app and they arent inputted. Any other symbol on any other row works. Can anyone confirm?

Searched maemo bugs and the forums but found nothing.

mikkov 2009-11-30 23:52

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, confirm?
 
highlight, then press space

jessi3k3 2009-11-30 23:53

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
D'oh! Thanks! Why is it only the 3rd row that requires this? Seems counterintuitive

jsa 2009-11-30 23:54

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
They are "deadkeys". Select one and then press space to get the character. Selecting and then pressing a letter gets you an accented letter.

kwotski 2009-11-30 23:55

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
Same here in xterm, 42-11, retail unit. apparently

Edit: Ah. thanks!

jessi3k3 2009-11-30 23:56

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 401813)
They are "deadkeys". Select one and then press space to get the character. Selecting and then pressing a letter gets you an accented letter.

Ah, that makes sense. Now it seems pretty reasonable. Thanks guys

Arif 2009-12-01 00:11

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
I wonder if you can change the last row? I'd love it if there was a way to add ş,ğ,ü,ö,ç,ı etc :D

metal 2009-12-31 01:37

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
thanks, this help!
I was trying to post a new topic about this problem and this thread showed up.

Kisama 2009-12-31 15:55

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
Well, this answers the problem I had, I ended up putting my WPA key in Google Docs and copy/paste from there. So, if you're using the virtual keyboard, how do you select these characters since there is no "space"?

benny1967 2009-12-31 17:14

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kisama (Post 448042)
So, if you're using the virtual keyboard, how do you select these characters since there is no "space"?

What do you mean "there is no 'space'"? Of course there is. On the vertual keyboard, you tap on the symbol (~, ^,...), it stays highlighted until you press either space or another character.

So basically it's the same behavior I see on my desktop computer. When I press ~ here nothing happens until I press either space or another letter that can be combined with ~, such as n (ñ).

yorg 2009-12-31 17:24

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
a better implementation would be to double-tap the symbol imho

GeneralAntilles 2009-12-31 18:06

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorg (Post 448135)
a better implementation would be to double-tap the symbol imho

See bug #5314.

DaSilva 2010-01-10 01:53

How to use special symbols?
 
How can I use special symbols like `´|° etc.?
Everytime I try it they are only marked but not typed (because they wait for a character like ` + a = à). How can I write something like "25°C"?
Thanks

sjgadsby 2010-01-10 01:59

Re: How to use special symbols?
 
Threads merged.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaSilva (Post 461904)
How can I use special symbols like `´|° etc.?

You can look back through this thread for the answer. (Or just hit the space key after highlighting your chosen symbol.)

jjx 2010-01-10 02:29

Re: 3rd symbol row not working, N900 owners confirm?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 448120)
So basically it's the same behavior I see on my desktop computer. When I press ~ here nothing happens until I press either space or another letter that can be combined with ~, such as n (ñ).

For those of us whose desktop computers don't do that, it's kind of annoying and totally unfamiliar. I had to find the answer on a forum before discovering the on-screen keys aren't simply broken.

It's not "discoverable" enough - because it's far from obvious that typing space is the trick to getting something to happen. After all, when you type another character, in most cases you just get the other character and the ~ seems like it did nothing except highlight in blue and have no effect.

And the visual cues, even in the "fixed" behaviour (see the bug entry) are still unhelpful. Just a simple message text or different icons for accent keys would make it a lot clearer.

On my computer dead keys are disabled unless a dead-key-shift is used. Then a sequence like dead-key-shift + ~, n does produce ñ. That's a much nicer behaviour imho for UK keyboard layouts.

Also why is there a dedicated ñ key as well? That could have been used for something else like thorn :)

Why isn't cedilla a dead key? It could replace the ç key, allowing other cedilla characters to be typed. (I forget which ones are used, but there are others).

And how do I get the thorn character (like o but with four short lines radiating out) - it's a character I use a lot in SMSs on other phones. Thanks :)


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