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joppu 2009-12-01 08:16

POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Vote "Mine's working perfectly" if you device is working eg. boots and is usable.

Vote "Mine's faulty/bricked" if your device was dead on arrival / bricked itself / microphone is not working / not booting. Don't vote if you installed something from extras-testing or extras devel, it's your own fault if it's bricked due to that.

ralphb 2009-12-01 08:21

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Looking good so far - 100% working perfectly. :)

fiendskillz 2009-12-01 08:23

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
mines working great right out of the box ^_^

eikido 2009-12-01 08:34

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Maybe you could do another line:

Mine is partially/minor faulty?

Cherrypie 2009-12-01 08:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eikido (Post 402268)
Maybe you could do another line:

Mine is partially/minor faulty?

please specify

mece 2009-12-01 08:50

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
I have a feeling that a lot of people come here because their phone is broken, which would lead to the poll not being very reliable.
Also, I should be able to vote twice, because both the N900 I'm using work fine :)

RevdKathy 2009-12-01 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mece (Post 402286)
I have a feeling that a lot of people come here because their phone is broken, which would lead to the poll not being very reliable.

That's almost a given in somewhere like this. And yet we are seeing a steady stream of happy customers... and I believe the last poll like this did the same.

Enyibinakata 2009-12-01 09:40

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Mine has been totally rock solid so far. Tried to crash it yesyerday by opening a few apps, browser windows and then sending a huge mp3 via bluetooth while sending sms, gtalk message at same time.

Can someone suggest a more wicked crash procedure ?

ossipena 2009-12-01 10:14

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it seems that my speculations are correct (at least for now!) : random reboots could be hardware related and doesn't affect the majority.

maxppc 2009-12-01 10:31

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yes but if it is so Nokia should call every user with that issue for a replacement. There are many people here talking about it and they have our mail address at least!
Anyway neither calling them by phone its always a success to obtain this replacement.

jeremiah 2009-12-01 11:15

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Don't forget that anyone may create a bug report so that any problems can get fixed. I have had my N900 developer model for more than a month without any problems what so ever (aside from issues with fennec, the firefox mobile browser.)

If you have problems, please speak up - they cannot get fixed if Nokia or Maemo does not know about it.

ossipena 2009-12-01 11:39

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https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6334

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6350

left a contact request to nokia @ weekend, no reply yet. I'll call them tomorrow but I fear that getting a new device is a no go for now when even some preorderers are still waiting.....

horus 2009-12-02 03:47

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
If more people could reply to this poll it would be beneficial.

unkno 2009-12-02 04:56

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
For the people who are voting faulty/bricked, can they post a short description of their problem.

ARJWright 2009-12-02 05:03

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To the original poster, and all who'd prefer to complain, you all do realize that there is a general rule about failure rates with mobile devices... usually in the area of 3-10% depending on yields and number of manufacturing finishing points.

For a device like the N900, there are probably 2 maybe three factories finishing the device, and with global availability, and a projection of .5-1 million devices over its calculated lifetime (not saying that will be it, but there are general targets for initial device sales; for Nokia and this type of device, 1 million devices shipped and sold is pretty successful and heady given the target audience and price). So to get a defect rate of less than 5% would be great - especially of those defects can be traced to a specific factory of assembly or part's orgin of development.

Coming to a forum, where traditionally only those people with issues speak loudest and most often, and asking about failure rates is about as biased a statistical output as the results of a US Presidental election in Florida. In other words, the sample size here will be too small to gather anything of value except for statistical anonamolies.

I would hope that folks responding to this are insightful enough to understand this and not get peeved that Nokia isn't addressing their very desires for a *perfect* device.

backwoods 2009-12-02 05:18

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Just from someone who may be on the wrong site and knows very little about programming. From what I have seen and experienced is the device is soild for the most part. I would agree that this appears to be more of a beta device promoted and released way to early. Issues with customer service did not help matters. Go from a N95 to a E71 to a N900 the craftman ship appears as good if not better than most cellphones on the market. As for as the software readiness that is within the system for a common user its a little confussing. For there superb advertising yet again a little premiture for proper syncing, ovi downloadable programs, as well as Maemo.

horus 2009-12-02 06:59

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCat (Post 404121)
How about:

$ sudo gainroot
# rm -rf /

;)

To the novice users reading this, don't do it. Ever.

phreck 2009-12-02 07:08

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCat (Post 404121)
How about:

$ sudo gainroot
# rm -rf /

;)

bad kitty.

BAD KITTY!

maxximuscool 2009-12-02 07:11

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
If you are inexperienced with Linux then do not use Root access.. You'll end up brick the device if you accidentally modified or delete something that you're not supposed too. I advised to stay away :D If root is damaged then you're screw

thegame4ever 2009-12-02 07:13

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
I voted 'mine's faulty' since I have the random reboot issue. Having it exchanged today for a new one hopefully.

ossipena 2009-12-02 10:14

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
i quess most have random reboots.

either sw_rst or 32wd_to. my unit has 32wd_to (hw watchdog)

rcs1000 2009-12-02 10:30

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
My device did a random reset after its first 30 minutes of use, and has been perfect since (5 days and counting...)

joppu 2009-12-02 19:46

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Looking good so far, 17% failure rate according to current statistics.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARJWright (Post 404101)
To the original poster, and all who'd prefer to complain, you all do realize that there is a general rule about failure rates with mobile devices... usually in the area of 3-10% depending on yields and number of manufacturing finishing points.

*babble*

I am very aware of that. I just wanted to see some guestimates about the current situation since so many people are complaining how their devices are not working correctly. I just wanted to see how many actually have a working device ;)

bandora 2009-12-02 19:50

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Lol add an option that says "I wish I knew, I never got one still."

ossipena 2009-12-04 10:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 405721)
Lol add an option that says "I wish I knew, I never got one still."

lol, common sense didn't say that there is no need to post here unless you have a device?

abdulsalam 2009-12-04 10:57

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
mine is having battery problems, its going down way to fast, I hope they will change my phone for a new one.

ossipena 2009-12-04 11:35

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abdulsalam (Post 409544)
mine is having battery problems, its going down way to fast, I hope they will change my phone for a new one.

have you installed something? if you have, i'd uninstall everything just to be sure it is hw related.

DaveP1 2009-12-04 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 409450)
lol, common sense didn't say that there is no need to post here unless you have a device?

Mine's faulty. It refuses to ship. :p

Bratag 2009-12-04 15:08

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abdulsalam (Post 409544)
mine is having battery problems, its going down way to fast, I hope they will change my phone for a new one.

Biggest thing I found that drained the battery like mad was when I left my wifi area and had the check for new wifi set to every 5 minutes - killed my battery FAST. Since I have changed that to every 30 - or disabled it altogether it lasts a lot longer.

Oh handy tip for the fm transmitter - put you N900 on the left side of the dashboard - seems to be the key for getting clear signal for me in at least 3 cars.

dba 2009-12-04 15:28

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Do you consider dead pixels a "failure"?

Laughing Man 2009-12-04 15:30

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It depends on the number of dead pixels. Most companies usually have a minimal requirement before its deemed a failure.

MedellinCartel 2009-12-04 15:45

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
i didn't vote but mine has battery problems, also the web browser blacks out sometimes but thats probably a firefox problem.

solpete 2009-12-04 16:26

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
You will not get the N900 failure rate by a thread like this. lol

abdulsalam 2009-12-04 16:58

Re: POLL: N900 failure rate
 
I did almost everything, stoped wi-fi searching, disabled the gps, removed facebook from the desktop.

i read somewhere that the e-mail app is draining too much power so I just removed all of my mail boxes, I will wait and see.


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