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archzai 2009-12-01 10:57

N900 Gmail Clarification
 
So the nokia email on the N900 doesnt work with Gmail at all? Exactly what works and what does? What i'd like ideally is for it to notify me when emails come in (PUSH Email), as well as sync my folders with my gmail account especially things like sent mail.

thanks guys

jeremiah 2009-12-01 10:58

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It works excellently with Gmail. I am using it now with no problems whatsoever.

floffe 2009-12-01 11:02

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That depends on how it's set up. The email should work fine but also syncing contacts, calendars etc over Mail for Exchange is not officially supported right now (it might work for you, but not guaranteed to do so, see this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35136)

zehjotkah 2009-12-01 11:03

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I'm using it, too. No problems, easy set-up. and notificationsand synced folders (sent and everything)

jeremiah 2009-12-01 11:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by floffe (Post 402465)
That depends on how it's set up. The email should work fine but also syncing contacts, calendars etc over Mail for Exchange is not officially supported right now (it might work for you, but not guaranteed to do so, see this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35136)

Gmail does not provide Exchange server interface without special arrangements. Exchange is Microsofts proprietary mail server format and protocol, one that breaks a lot of the standard mail protocols and lacks functionality. Fortunately Gmail offers both POP and IMAP so you can effectively use those protocols for your N900 syncing.

krk969 2009-12-01 11:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by archzai (Post 402456)
So the nokia email on the N900 doesnt work with Gmail at all? Exactly what works and what does? What i'd like ideally is for it to notify me when emails come in (PUSH Email), as well as sync my folders with my gmail account especially things like sent mail.

thanks guys

I depend on google heavily myself.

For gmail I set it up in Nokia messaging, and it works fine so far, just that you wont have all your mails at once, it keeps mails upto last 3 days, but for new mails this is more than enough for now.

For contacts and calender, I used PC suite, Im using it to sync with Lotus Notes(at work) and Outlook(at home).
Has been working fine so far.

google calender and contact sync totally unreliable with Mfe as of now.
Mails are not supported anyways on Mfe.

hopefully this gets ironed out soon :(
waiting for the xmas gift from Nokia/Maemo !

DannStarr 2009-12-01 11:25

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I'm still confused, does gmail get pushed to the n900 as the mail is sent, or do you have to go in to ur mail app for it to check for new mails?

range 2009-12-01 11:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DannStarr (Post 402501)
I'm still confused, does gmail get pushed to the n900 as the mail is sent, or do you have to go in to ur mail app for it to check for new mails?

As modest doesn't support IMAP IDLE at the moment, it doesn't get "pushed" if you use gmail with IMAP. See this bug report.

krk969 2009-12-01 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DannStarr (Post 402501)
I'm still confused, does gmail get pushed to the n900 as the mail is sent, or do you have to go in to ur mail app for it to check for new mails?

If you use Nokia messaging like I do , it pushes the mail from gmail.

Im not sure though if IMAP idle is supported for Gmail if you used the modest client to set it up using the IMAP4 protocol

And in my experience, it was terribly slow to use it that way, found Nokia messaging a little more quicker, maybe coz it loads fewer messages :confused:

stobbsc 2009-12-01 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by krk969 (Post 402522)
If you use Nokia messaging like I do , it pushes the mail from gmail.

Im not sure though if IMAP idle is supported for Gmail if you used the modest client to set it up using the IMAP4 protocol

And in my experience, it was terribly slow to use it that way, found Nokia messaging a little more quicker, maybe coz it loads fewer messages :confused:

How do you mean you use Nokia Messenging to push Gmail email?

Nitchers 2009-12-01 11:50

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I can do the messaging fine, but nothing for contacts and calendar with gmail on mfe.

krk969 2009-12-01 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 402530)
How do you mean you use Nokia Messenging to push Gmail email?

http://email.nokia.com/account/faq.action

that should answer all your questions.
;)

stobbsc 2009-12-01 11:54

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surely someone could write a synch app for gmail to N900 for calendar and contacts and tasks?
I used to just export everything and then manually import, but I'm sure this process can be automated...

stobbsc 2009-12-01 11:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by krk969 (Post 402546)
http://email.nokia.com/account/faq.action

that should answer all your questions.
;)

oops sorry I'm stupid I actually have that on my N97, but I don't like the client at all, really want to be able to use the native email client with Gmail.

krk969 2009-12-01 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 402551)
oops sorry I'm stupid I actually have that on my N97, but I don't like the client at all, really want to be able to use the native email client with Gmail.

what do you mean by native email client ?

Nokia messaging, Mfe, IMAP/POP accounts on your N900 use the one and only native and "Modest" email client as far as I was aware :rolleyes:

stobbsc 2009-12-01 12:04

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ok thats awesome, by native, I mean I don't want to install a seperate app client for mail.
I was always under the impression that nokia messaging was a seperate client? as in you need to install it and stuff

krk969 2009-12-01 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stobbsc (Post 402572)
ok thats awesome, by native, I mean I don't want to install a seperate app client for mail.
I was always under the impression that nokia messaging was a seperate client? as in you need to install it and stuff

well now you know ;)

stobbsc 2009-12-01 12:05

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thanks mate :-)

archzai 2009-12-01 12:19

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oh awesome
so 3 days is the max i can have emails for? thats fine i guess.
does it thread emails that are of the same subject similar to the gmail web client or will each be different "email". I assume the latter since even blackberries and such show it as a "new email" with the conversation within.

zehjotkah 2009-12-01 12:22

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thanks, now I'm using Nokia messaging, too. It's really faster than GMail... push is nice!

bbrindle 2009-12-01 16:00

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Anyone know how long Nokia Messaging is going to remain free?

jsuggs 2009-12-01 16:24

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I have a regular gmail account that is my primary email account. All of my contacts/calendar are associated with that account. I need to be able to sync email, calendar and contacts...this is the highest priority.

I also have a few domains setup with google apps that I would also like to be able to check email for.

My work also has an exchange server that would be nice to just check email from (no calendar, contacts, etc), but I don't think it has IMAP enabled.

My assumptions/questions, please give any advice/input:
  1. I will have to use MFE for my main gmail account so that contacts and calendar can be synced. Is there any other way?.
  2. I will only be able to sync the primary calendar associated with my main gmail account. Is there any way to sync additional calendars?
  3. I can then use either an IMAP connection for the other google apps domains or should I set them up with Nokia Messenger?
  4. I will not be able to sync with my work email at all since I'm only allowed one Exchange account.

jadpro 2009-12-02 21:45

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Using nokia messaging my html emails dont fully load, even after i press the picture button. What gives? anyone else have this problem? I really like this better than gmail on IMAP but i may have to go back to it if i can't do HTML.

romanianusa 2009-12-02 21:49

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I don't even use NOkia messenging...Gmail work fine for me. Comcast.net doesn't work right for me though....sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't..not sure what the problem is. I tested by sending emails..sometimes it'll show up and some emails don't....man i don't know what's going on.

Kieron 2009-12-03 11:35

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What about archiving mail etc.? And does it sync it with the server that its been read? I'm debating whether it'd be better to just use the damn browser..!

Soheil 2009-12-03 11:39

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Sorry if this is a report...

But you need to first signup with Nokia Messaging and add your Gmail account there. [email.nokia.com]

Then on the phone from the list you only need to add Nokia Messaging, it automatically adds the GMail Mailbox within itself. Now you get PUSH Mail.

p.s. the service seem to have a downtime last week, now its up and running smoothly.

MrWh1t3 2009-12-09 11:32

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Although not a direct answer, this might shed some lights...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ZfizrEgFM

Strive_Masiwa 2009-12-09 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Soheil (Post 407273)
Sorry if this is a report...

But you need to first signup with Nokia Messaging and add your Gmail account there. [email.nokia.com]

Then on the phone from the list you only need to add Nokia Messaging, it automatically adds the GMail Mailbox within itself. Now you get PUSH Mail.

p.s. the service seem to have a downtime last week, now its up and running smoothly.

I have set it up successfully to recieve gmail emails but when I try to reply one it just puts the message in the outbox and does not send.
Anyone also experive this issue? Any resolution?

mr2600 2009-12-10 05:35

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I have been using NM for a while on my previous phone and it always worked well.

When i switched to the n900 I encounter one small issue.

If i delete it off the device it then deletes it off gmail also.

Does anyone know how to prevent that from happening?

I am using IMAP i believe (i checked my nokia messaging account online, thats what it said.)

But i cannot seem to prevent it from deleting it off gmail also.

Soheil 2009-12-10 05:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strive_Masiwa (Post 419503)
I have set it up successfully to recieve gmail emails but when I try to reply one it just puts the message in the outbox and does not send.
Anyone also experive this issue? Any resolution?

That's quite weird. NM is working perfectly fine and fast here.

I stumbled upon another issues last night when I was helping a friend setup his *new* N900. We signed up at email.nokia,com and then when we ran the Email Setup Wizard, to our greatest surprise "Nokia Messaging" wasn't listed.

May be they are in the process of tweaking the servers for N900 support?!?

raullugo 2009-12-10 08:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbrindle (Post 402979)
Anyone know how long Nokia Messaging is going to remain free?

the first time i've got the email saying that NM was a trial service was almost a year ago on my E71 and it is still free so i would not worry too much about it. I have read in a couple of blogs that Nokia is not actually planning to charge costumers directly but to someday maybe allow carriers to charge for the service in some kind of Nokia data plan. All I know is that it has been free for a while and Nokia doen't seem to be changing that any day soon...

Kieron 2009-12-10 09:17

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So wait, is it possible to archive mail then??

davidfoley 2009-12-10 09:44

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I have no problems with email from two other providers, but 1 Gmail and another Gmail hosted email account are giving me problems-

In relation to the standard Gmail account- as I typically check my mail with Apple Mail, messages are not marked as read when I check the account in my browser- the n900 mail app attempted (and actually managed after about an hour!) to tell me I had 13k+ new messages. However, every time I tried to open an email, the mail app would freeze- I assumed it was trying to download all those messages (but prayed to god that it was not!). So I deleted the account (on the n900) then marked all unread emails as read (using Gmail browser interface) and tried setting up on the n900 again- this time it correctly reported no new email messages--- but the same problem- every time I try to open an email- the app freezes. I can't seem to find any settings that would manage new mail retrieval... anyone else?

(With the hosted Gmail account, I can access no problem, but cannot send email)

smage 2009-12-10 15:20

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Ok one problem I have which I have searched and have been unable to find a solution for is:

When using Nokia Messaging for gmail, when I delete a mesage from my Inbox, it gets deleted from the server as well. I would like to turn this feature off. Is there an option for this that I have missed?

In addition to this, I haven't yet managed to archive my emails (on the gmail server) through Nokia messaging, haven't found an option for that either, even though I have selected All Mail on the Nokia Messaging website.

Any tips?

john12 2009-12-10 23:05

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Can somebody please help me with Nokia Messaging?

I got an SMS from NM for the download link.
I clicked on the link, then it takes me to:

Choose a platform from the list below that best matches your device type
I selected Symbian Series 60 5.0 ( Its not showing me Maemo platform option)

Then when i download it to the device. I am not able to open it.

When I the downloaded file, it says:
Select an application form the list to open file 'Nokia'

How to go ahead from here?

mr2600 2009-12-10 23:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smage (Post 421015)
Ok one problem I have which I have searched and have been unable to find a solution for is:

When using Nokia Messaging for gmail, when I delete a mesage from my Inbox, it gets deleted from the server as well. I would like to turn this feature off. Is there an option for this that I have missed?

I am having the same issue i really wish there was a way around it.

siperkin 2009-12-11 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john12 (Post 421813)
Can somebody please help me with Nokia Messaging?

When I the downloaded file, it says:
Select an application form the list to open file 'Nokia'

How to go ahead from here?

No need to download any software, its already inbuilt.

Go to Email and choose to create a new account. Click next (it will search for services).
Then click on "Service Provider" field (currently say Other) then choose "Nokia Messaging"

Hope thats clear enough.

Si.

eyn 2009-12-11 19:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 403036)
I have a regular gmail account that is my primary email account. All of my contacts/calendar are associated with that account. I need to be able to sync email, calendar and contacts...this is the highest priority.

I also have a few domains setup with google apps that I would also like to be able to check email for.

My work also has an exchange server that would be nice to just check email from (no calendar, contacts, etc), but I don't think it has IMAP enabled.

My assumptions/questions, please give any advice/input:
  1. I will have to use MFE for my main gmail account so that contacts and calendar can be synced. Is there any other way?.
  2. I will only be able to sync the primary calendar associated with my main gmail account. Is there any way to sync additional calendars?
  3. I can then use either an IMAP connection for the other google apps domains or should I set them up with Nokia Messenger?
  4. I will not be able to sync with my work email at all since I'm only allowed one Exchange account.


You can use Nuevasync (nuevasync.com). It syncs contacts, Calendar with Google and email with any email provider with IMAP.

Nuevasync acts as an Exchange sever so you have to configure it as such. check their site for more details.

Its a free service for contacts and calendar but paid for emails

The only issue I'm facing right now are that it syncs only 2 weeks of email.

mikec 2009-12-11 19:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smage (Post 421015)
Ok one problem I have which I have searched and have been unable to find a solution for is:

When using Nokia Messaging for gmail, when I delete a mesage from my Inbox, it gets deleted from the server as well. I would like to turn this feature off. Is there an option for this that I have missed?

In addition to this, I haven't yet managed to archive my emails (on the gmail server) through Nokia messaging, haven't found an option for that either, even though I have selected All Mail on the Nokia Messaging website.

Any tips?

have you got Sync Inbox option set?
This lives in Email-> Edit Account->Nokia Messaging->service Info

Fargus 2009-12-11 19:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mr2600 (Post 420175)
I have been using NM for a while on my previous phone and it always worked well.

When i switched to the n900 I encounter one small issue.

If i delete it off the device it then deletes it off gmail also.

Does anyone know how to prevent that from happening?

I am using IMAP i believe (i checked my nokia messaging account online, thats what it said.)

But i cannot seem to prevent it from deleting it off gmail also.

Deletion from device triggering deletion on server is how IMAP is upoosed to work. If you don't want to have this link you will need to change to POP3 instead which is a polled service.


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