Maemo Doomed?
 

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8826/maemo.png

From: http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_...kia_CMD_09.pdf
Via: http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/03/n...er-experience/

If Nokia is going to continue to focus the majority of sales on Symbian, it seems like Maemo is pretty much just like a side-project. Why would someone choose Maemo then, when Symbian will have much better focus and support from Nokia? The idea of one company developing two OS's doesn't sit too well with me. Eventually, one will lose out (and it looks like Nokia will favor Symbian).

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Well, you just pick the device you think is best for you the moment you buy it...
Right now as far as functional but still open goes, the only real choice is Maemo...
we'll see how that evolves... I thought nokia was all about having 9999 niche market?

Also portability will not be as much of an issue with the QT compatibility in Maemo6.

EDIT: also looking at the entire pdf (just search maemo over and over) you'll see what they have in store...

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

It's worked well for Microsoft (WinMo, Windows, WinCE, embedded Windows) and Apple (OS X and Mobile OS X)... Nokia will be just fine.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

symbians will gradually shift to midrange models..thanks to the ability to run on weaker processors. maemo will be for high end and like previously said @ a nokia n900 meetup by 2012 n series will be mainly maemo.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

it'll be just fine, and they seem to be pushing series 40 out of the picture

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

I think S40 will substitute S30 and S30 will be pushed out eventually (just as S30 did to S20 in recent years).

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

didnt realize they still made 30 series phones

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

The Symbian OS sells a lot more phones & always do, unless Nokia pull their socks up with "Maemo". Only total nerds & tech-freaks will buy such a device & be satisfied with it. So the Symbian is a bigger market for them = more money = the point of a business.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

2011. I assume this is assuming and taking into consideration that the N920 (Harmattan) is released by then.

To me, this type of comparison is another sign that we won't ever see another NIT. The N770,N800,N810 were to prototype the 'smart' in the smart-phone concept and how community development could be a cheap model. In the future Maemo will most likely only exist on smartphones with screensizes primarily designed to support the phone-side (read: smaller) over the tablet-side (read N810-size, 5 inches, 7 inches etc).

I really do wish Nokia good luck with this effort but it also means that I won't be looking at Nokia in the future for tablet products.

I would love something like my SmartQ7 with Nokia's build quality running Maemo (actually I'm using it right now typing this and a 7 inch tablet is indeed sweeet).

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

In page 76 the pdf says: Maemo 6, H2 2010... So, they're actually planning it.

The left side of page 164 shows that Nokia's revenue from smartphones is only a small part of its total revenue.

However, there is no single word about the delays and whether they intent to fix them.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Nah. I won't count Maemo out. Reinvigorating Symbian is Nokia's okans for the near future. Symbian has a huge user base. It's a mature and well known product. Maemo on the other hand still hadn't fully matured into a consumer friendly product. Maemo is for the long term. Nokia has always just focused on development of one Maemo platform since the beginning. The N900 is the next logical milestone for Maemo. The new Hartman device coming in 2010 will be targeted for the mainstream consumer which is also the logical step after the N900. I think we'll start seeing more N series devices in different form factors in 2011 and beyond. I have no doubt well be seeing an Internet Tablet form factor then.

Edit:I left a very imporant word out off my first sentence. Even though the rest of the post explained what I really meant.

Networks drop packets. I drops words when posting.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

I might even kiss you if you're right.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Is it alright if I just give him a man hug with the double back thump?

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Only if you're facing each other...:p

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Erm, pretty sure that graph represents what Nokia HOPES will occur by 2011, that Maemo will get more popular. Look at the first graph, it doesn't even exist. They're HOPING there will be a bigger slice of the Maemo pie by 2011.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

I think we're all pretty well aware of what the word 'Forecast' means :)

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

him....? ;)

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

I think the best of both worlds is a N900 sized device that can doc in a large frame that just provides power and a larger touch screen. If the N900 had a HDMI out and USB host (on the same size) we would be there already.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

The 1661 and 2605 are still available in the US. Most of the rest are S40.

Like others here, I read the graphs as positive for Maemo. Nokia has stated that Symbian is their iPhone killer and Maemo is for phones with computers that raise the stakes further. If Maemo can actually achieve that much of a chunk of the world's leading phone producer's market, it will be a roaring success.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

So I'm a sexist. I refuse to believe that any woman would be crazy enough to own both an N800 and an N810. :p

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

i just hope the n900 is not forgotten and gets updates a lot

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Wow just shows how the same chart gets different interpretations. Maemo goes from nothing to a significant slice of the pie and its seen as doomed :eek:

oh off course there is Qt strategy as well, which should unite the apps development.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

Grin - the chart shows about 10% for Maemo of Nokia Sales in 2011.
Now Nokia is currently selling 50-60 Mio. Smartphones per year. That would give Maemo 5-6 Mio, devices in 2011. I wouldn't called this doomed. Or even worse: if chart talks about ALL of Nokia mobile sales, which are about 400 Mio. units per year (!), that would mean 40 Mio. Maemo units in 2011...which is about 2-3x current iPhone sales numbers :-)

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

"Kallasvuo directly addressed recent blog reports that Nokia is replacing Symbian with the Linux-based Maemo OS on its high end handsets, leading to speculation about what that means for Symbian's future.

Using Symbian makes good business sense for Nokia, and allows the company to develop cheap smartphones that will democratise the form factor, said Kallasvuo.

...

Maemo will only be used on its most expensive devices, including the recently launched N900, according to Nokia. Nokia executives didn't say much at the event about upcoming Maemo-based devices. The first product based on Maemo 6, the next version of the OS, will arrive in the second half of 2010, according to Alberto Torres, executive vice president of solutions at Nokia."

http://news.techworld.com/mobile-wir...ian-for-maemo/

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

We do know a little bit based on their presentation a while back. That the next Maemo device will similar internals as the n900 (OMAP 3) and that it will have a capacitative touch screen. Then we also have mock-ups of what they're trying to do with Maemo 6.

Re: Maemo Doomed?
 

From the figure, it tells me Maemo will take over S40...