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testarc 2009-12-07 15:30

Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
hi,

does anybody know a system that transmit usbhost information to bluetooth ? it can be usefull for n900

MrGrim 2009-12-07 15:42

Re: bluetooth-To-Usbhost adapter
 
Wait, what?
So, you want something that tricks the other device (flash drive?) into thinking that it's plugged into a computer, then beams data to the n900? Sounds kinda complicated, the adapter would actually have to be a small computer. If they do exist, they won't come in cheap

sjgadsby 2009-12-07 15:51

Re: bluetooth-To-Usbhost adapter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by testarc (Post 414659)
does anybody know a system that transmit usbhost information to bluetooth ?

This has been a topic of discussion in the "N900 will not allow USB OTG!" thread. Thus far, the devices that come closest to fitting the bill are older Maemo devices, such as the N800 and N810.

Kurare 2009-12-07 15:51

Re: bluetooth-To-Usbhost adapter
 
Hm. So you're suggesting that a USB host software module is written for the N900, then the data streams from that module are piped over the bluetooth to an external device that acts as the physical USB host for the peripherals causing them to be visible as standard USB devices to the system?

Never seen one of those or even heard of one, but the whole concept sounds simply pervy. Maybe doable, but the limited data rate of the BT link as well as possibly link latency (not sure how BT does on this front, as it's meant to be low power I'd guess it may suffer from slightly variable latency packet-per-packet) may well pop up as major issues. Maybe worth looking into, though I doubt the standard definitions of Bluetooth SIG may not include ready-defined profiles for such a thing. Making this work might be an excellent addition to someone's CV though :)

epson800 2009-12-07 16:52

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
they make bluetooth usb hubs, with would be nice as then we could pair the ps3 controller and use it for games and other things. the first step is finding a bluetooth usb hub that is made for linux

testarc 2009-12-07 17:28

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
yes ...
External HDD -> USBHOST adapter / Bluetooth <-----> N900 Bluetooth

MrGrim 2009-12-07 17:41

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epson800 (Post 414771)
they make bluetooth usb hubs, with would be nice as then we could pair the ps3 controller and use it for games and other things. the first step is finding a bluetooth usb hub that is made for linux

Those are actually just bluetooth dongles strapped to a normal usb hub. A pc still has to act as a proxy between the usb device and the bluetooth adapter, which kind of defeats the purpose.

I just remembered that usb cables are restricted to 5 meters in length to guarantee the information goes through fast . I'm pretty sure bluetooth simply can't deliver this kind of speed.

captainqtp 2009-12-07 17:57

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
Other than for power reasons, why Bluetooth? If you are hooking up external devices you are going to need a power source anyways. This magical device should be using wireless G (or N if that was available on the N900) to transmit data. You'd get at least decent speed through wireless G.

glabifrons 2009-12-07 18:05

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
What I think you want (end result) is something like the Seagate D.A.V.E.

Use the google... lots of articles about it (though I'm not sure what happened to its release).

testarc 2009-12-07 18:05

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
yes the dave sound good , but i may use SD card reader or usb thumbs because i want transfer photos from my DSLR camera to the N900 drive.

so that why i 'propose' this use of usbhost to bluetooth or wifi dongle ?
i see that thyphoon have an CFcard to USB Host adapter bu none for micro sd :(

testarc 2009-12-07 18:15

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
this an example i want to test : http://www.acesuppliers.com/Supplier...oom_45734.html

sjgadsby 2009-12-07 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by testarc (Post 414911)

That won't help the N900. The device to which you've pointed is designed to add a Bluetooth radio and an SD card reader to a computer using only one USB port. It is not a standalone Bluetooth SD reader. Sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glabifrons (Post 414893)
What I think you want (end result) is something like the Seagate D.A.V.E.

Use the google... lots of articles about it (though I'm not sure what happened to its release).

As far as I can tell, the Seagate D.A.V.E. never made it to market. In contrast, the EDSLAB WiDRIVE PX-100 is supposedly available for purchase. It's WiFi, not Bluetooth, but it is battery powered and fairly small.

ruskie 2009-12-07 18:32

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
Why not USB over IP ? IIRC it is possible. The speed should probably be there as well. And yeah you would need something along the lines of a mifi just adapted to to usb over ip and wifi connections.

testarc 2009-12-07 18:36

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
or that :
http://usb.brando.com/55-in-1-blueto...0c036d015.html

qole 2009-12-07 18:40

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
Hm, TigerDirect is selling new N800s for $200 (CAD)... Interesting!

(EDIT: the N8x0 is a great USB-to-IP converter)

twoboxen 2009-12-07 18:52

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by testarc (Post 414948)

That is a USB to bluetooth adapter... we need the opposite.

testarc 2009-12-07 19:25

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
i have find nothing for usborsdcard-to-bluetooth or other ... i'm worry :(

phedders 2009-12-07 20:09

Re: Bluetooth-to-USB Host Adapter?
 
This: http://wlhdd.co.uk/wiki/Guide : would do the trick quite well - I have a couple... if only they had USB 2.0 (or 3...) but you can set it up as a Wifi AP or Wifi client and provide usb storage devices by CIFS/NFS/FTP etc. Should be able to do usb-over-ip too if you can compile the modules. Oh and it includes space for a 2.5" IDE drive... Could make a smaller case if you wanted to sacrifice that capability, or use the case space for a large battery pack.

Hmm thats a thought!!!!


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