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Imtiyaz 2009-12-09 00:38
How to remove default applications?
 
Is there any way i can remove Blocks, Chess, Majong and Marbles from N900.

mikkov 2009-12-09 00:40
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
No, if you don't want break your installation.

Imtiyaz 2009-12-09 00:46
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Is there any way i can hide them ?

mikkov 2009-12-09 00:49
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
By removing proper files from /usr/share/applications/hildon directory, you can remove them from the menu. But then we are again close to breaking the installation. Well it doesn't really break anything but accidentally removing wrong files can be bad.

cenwesi 2009-12-09 12:50
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
simple... install the gain root extra...
pull up terminal and issue this command

$ apt-get remove game*
This will REMOVE ALL the games
PS: I always do this to get rid of games from my ubuntu server and Linux box to remove games since i rarely play games anymore...
Here is the output..

Quote:
Nokia-N900-42-11:~# apt-get remove game*
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting osso-games-startup for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-nlnl for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-nono for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting python-pygame for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting python2.5-pygame for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting python-pygame instead of python2.5-pygame
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-plpl for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-sounds-game-chess for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-public for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-mr for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-mr0 instead of osso-games-l10n-mr
Note, selecting osso-graphics-game-chess for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-ptpt for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-dadk for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-dede for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-ruru for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting hildon-games-wrapper0 for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-cscz for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-svse for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-engb for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-fifi for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-graphics-game-mahjong for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-enus for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-eses for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-esmx for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-frca for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting python2.3-pygame for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-frfr for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-mr0 for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-graphics-game-lmarbles for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-sounds-game-mahjong for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting osso-games-l10n-itit for regex 'game*'
Note, selecting python2.4-pygame for regex 'game*'
The following packages will be REMOVED:
hildon-games-wrapper0 maemoblocks mp-fremantle-generic-pr osso-chess-ui
osso-games-l10n-cscz osso-games-l10n-dadk osso-games-l10n-dede
osso-games-l10n-engb osso-games-l10n-enus osso-games-l10n-eses
osso-games-l10n-esmx osso-games-l10n-fifi osso-games-l10n-frca
osso-games-l10n-frfr osso-games-l10n-itit osso-games-l10n-mr0
osso-games-l10n-nlnl osso-games-l10n-nono osso-games-l10n-plpl
osso-games-l10n-ptpt osso-games-l10n-ruru osso-games-l10n-svse
osso-games-startup osso-graphics-game-chess osso-graphics-game-lmarbles
osso-graphics-game-mahjong osso-lmarbles osso-mahjong
osso-sounds-game-chess osso-sounds-game-mahjong
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 30 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
After this operation, 5276kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
(Reading database ... 20544 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing mp-fremantle-generic-pr ...
Removing maemoblocks ...
Removing osso-lmarbles ...
Removing hildon-games-wrapper0 ...
Removing osso-chess-ui ...
Removing osso-mahjong ...
Removing osso-games-startup ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-mr0 ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-cscz ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-dadk ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-dede ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-engb ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-enus ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-eses ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-esmx ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-fifi ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-frca ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-frfr ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-itit ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-nlnl ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-nono ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-plpl ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-ptpt ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-ruru ...
Removing osso-games-l10n-svse ...
Removing osso-graphics-game-chess ...
Removing osso-graphics-game-lmarbles ...
Removing osso-graphics-game-mahjong ...
Removing osso-sounds-game-chess ...
Removing osso-sounds-game-mahjong ...
Nokia-N900-42-11:~#
so far everything on the N900 is working just fine. If i have to reflash then so be it but to completely remove those games use that command.
BTW, if you looked at the lines, you can actually remove the games individually by using dpkg -l i think to get a list of packages installed and remove them that way looking at the output.

mikkov 2009-12-09 12:59
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
do that only if you don't want firmware upgrades.

Alex Atkin UK 2009-12-09 13:06
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cenwesi (Post 418735)
simple... install the gain root extra...
pull up terminal and issue this command

$ apt-get remove game*
This will REMOVE ALL the games
PS: I always do this to get rid of games from my ubuntu server and Linux box to remove games since i rarely play games anymore...
Here is the output..


so far everything on the N900 is working just fine. If i have to reflash then so be it but to completely remove those games use that command.
BTW, if you looked at the lines, you can actually remove the games individually by using dpkg -l i think to get a list of packages installed and remove them that way looking at the output.
But that also removes pygame which is a bad idea, as some none-game Python applications use that.

ewan 2009-12-09 13:09
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 418761)
do that only if you don't want firmware upgrades.
How would this affect updates - surely if a package isn't installed you simply don't install updates for it, if it is, you do.

thp 2009-12-09 13:17
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ewan (Post 418779)
How would this affect updates - surely if a package isn't installed you simply don't install updates for it, if it is, you do.
The package mp-fremantle-generic-pr depends on all the games, so uninstalling the games will remove that package as well, which removes the ability to do SSU upgrades.

However, you can create fake packages using "equivs" from Debian that contain no data, but provide (and conflict with) the relevant game packages:

http://packages.debian.org/sid/equivs

(i.e. create a package that provides, conflicts with and replaces "osso-lmarbles", and then install it on your device, which should keep the dependencies satisfied, but removes the game contents which should save some space)

ewan 2009-12-09 13:23
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Losing the metapackage would prevent updates pulling in anything new (unless it was a dependency of another update) but you'd still get updates of all the installed packages surely? The individual updates all appear as normal debs in repositories, no?

ladoga 2009-12-09 13:39
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Atkin UK (Post 418777)
But that also removes pygame which is a bad idea, as some none-game Python applications use that.
2nd that. It's probably safer to list and filter to find game related packages ie. # dpkg -l | grep mahjong and then remove them individually. # apt-get remove osso-mahjong osso-graphics-game-mahjong osso-sounds-game-mahjong

[edit] I don't own a N900 so I can't check if default games depend on some other packages that are required for firmware updates to work smoothly (as some in this thread have suggested). So do at your own risk.

Imtiyaz 2009-12-09 13:45
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
I am fine with the games... ;) The More i Read the more i get confused...

pelago 2009-12-09 13:45
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
See also Bug 3602 especially comment 42 regarding N900/Maemo 5.

Laughing Man 2009-12-09 13:47
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Are you talking about applications like Amazon and whatever other ones that will make you install something first before using it (yet the show up in the applications already?)

Can't you install them and then uninstall them, I think that's how you got rid of Gizmo on the n800 (it was similar.. it was listed in the applications yet when you clicked on it it opened up the application manager to install it).

Imtiyaz 2009-12-09 13:52
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
I already got rid of amazon and whatever application through uninstall in app manager..
The reason i was interested in getting the games out as i don't use it and they use unwanted space in menu. I wish nokia had give option to create folders and i could dump all the unwanted application in extra folder..

pelago 2009-12-09 16:15
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imtiyaz (Post 418868)
The reason i was interested in getting the games out as i don't use it and they use unwanted space in menu. I wish nokia had give option to create folders and i could dump all the unwanted application in extra folder..
Please vote for Bug 5349.

jalladin 2010-01-14 13:44
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelago (Post 419108)
Please vote for Bug 5349.
from what i read it sounded like this is a bug for the arrangement of sorts, and not a sure way to delete the pre-installed games and other aps...

pelago 2010-01-14 13:57
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalladin (Post 470785)
from what i read it sounded like this is a bug for the arrangement of sorts, and not a sure way to delete the pre-installed games and other aps...
That's right. Please see the message I was replying to. The bug about no way to delete pre-installed apps is covered by my other message as follows:

Quote:
Originally Posted by pelago (Post 418854)
See also Bug 3602 especially comment 42 regarding N900/Maemo 5.

mikkov 2010-01-14 14:04
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ewan (Post 418813)
Losing the metapackage would prevent updates pulling in anything new (unless it was a dependency of another update) but you'd still get updates of all the installed packages surely? The individual updates all appear as normal debs in repositories, no?
I think now it's good time to return for this. Yes losing the metapackage (uninstalling the default games) prevents Application Manager seeing the firmware updates.

KPAH 2010-02-10 10:05
Re: How to remove default applications.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikkov (Post 470844)
I think now it's good time to return for this. Yes losing the metapackage (uninstalling the default games) prevents Application Manager seeing the firmware updates.
Well, assuming f/w upgrades from the AppManager often lead to GSM module to start losing cellular network...not a big deal.
A good f/w updated is complete flush over usb cable.

I vote for dpkg -r


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