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shrimp_was_disabled2 2006-12-09 12:09

App wislist?
 
Just to stirr up some discussion (not to whine about the current application offerings) what would your application wishlist look like?

Here's some apps that I think would be useful:

1. An application launcher, maybe an applet at Home, just something that I can easily launch apps from. Right now, I have to use the stylus to access the menu to open an app

2. Apps that take advantage of the large touchscreen. Such as horizon and canola.

I don't want it to look like I'm complaining. I love my 770, and the applications people make for it (for free!)

Karel Jansens 2006-12-09 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimp_was_disabled2
Just to stirr up some discussion (not to whine about the current application offerings) what would your application wishlist look like?

Here's some apps that I think would be useful:

1. An application launcher, maybe an applet at Home, just something that I can easily launch apps from. Right now, I have to use the stylus to access the menu to open an app

2. Apps that take advantage of the large touchscreen. Such as horizon and canola.

I don't want it to look like I'm complaining. I love my 770, and the applications people make for it (for free!)

Previously, whenever someone mentioned "wishlist" and "770" in the same sentence, I'd be there with just the one war cry: "Abiword!!!"

Recently however, I've done some re-thinking, mostly in view of how I actually use my Abiword-less NokiLLO these days, and I've come to the conclusion that I really don't need a full-fledged word processor. After all, as long as I can't print from NokiLLO, or even tranparently use any networked printer in the vicinity, there really is no point in having a WYSIWYG beast on board.

I've discovered that I can do quite a lot with Leafpad, arguably the simplest possible editor ever. It is very light though and missing quite a few useful features (word count, elaborate search-and-replace funtions and more...), so its usefullness is somewhat hampered. Sure, I could use vim -- but I don't want to :rolleyes:, so here's my wishlist. It's a short one:

1. A good writer's editor and
2. an easy to use flat-file database (the best one is still the old Psion 3x's "Data"!).

So there.

jayholler 2006-12-09 18:01

I would love to see an NX client to handle forwarding X sessions with some compression. It would be really nice to securely access my machine at home with such a thing. Right now I can do it over ssh "ssh -X user@hostname" and then run an app or two. I even did the xvkbd thing to be able to type in the forwarded window, but it is a little hacky, and not quit as satisfying as if there were a native application "hildonized" for such a purpose.

brendan 2006-12-09 18:52

you can use compression by giving -C over ssh, ie ssh -XC user@hostname

BruceL 2006-12-10 07:55

1) I have a lot of short and long lists. Currently they are on post-it-notes all over my desk. I would love an application that would easily manage them and let me view them from the home screen.

2) Latest AbiWord (with Word and OpenOffice support)

3) A better App Launcher with support for single finger launching.

4) A note/sketch program that organizes notes better than Xournal (It would be cool to combine this with #1 if it were light and fast!)

These aren't apps but they are software:

-> Printing support
-> Bluetooth Steero Audio support

Karel, have you tried the SciTe editor?

fpp 2006-12-10 11:04

A SciTe editor ? For 2006 ? Where where where ?... :-)

BruceL 2006-12-10 11:15

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A SciTe editor ? For 2006 ? Where where where ?... :-)
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/scite/

It isn't fully hildonized, but it works great. Personally, for just this one app, I like having a real menu bar.

tirabosco 2006-12-10 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayholler
I would love to see an NX client to handle forwarding X sessions with some compression. It would be really nice to securely access my machine at home with such a thing. Right now I can do it over ssh "ssh -X user@hostname" and then run an app or two. I even did the xvkbd thing to be able to type in the forwarded window, but it is a little hacky, and not quit as satisfying as if there were a native application "hildonized" for such a purpose.

Haven't seen this "xvkbd thing" yet. Is there a howto around somewhere?
EDIT: Nevermind, google is your friend. :D
http://digitalen.blogspot.com/2006/0...e-virtual.html
EDIT2:No luck for me. 770 reboots after I start amarok. :(
The interesting thing is that desktop apps that integrate with full screen support per se like firefox can already be set in full screen mode. But of course an nx client would be the best thing IMO (suspend is great).

Bye, tira.

schmolch 2006-12-10 14:45

vice and uae ;-)

fpp 2006-12-10 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceL
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/scite/
It isn't fully hildonized, but it works great. Personally, for just this one app, I like having a real menu bar.

Thanks for the heads-up ! I had Scite with the 2005 OS, but since the advent of the App Manager in OS2006 I've grown complacent and managed to miss this :-)

dcarter 2006-12-10 21:45

clearly none of us would mind an applet quick launch on the desktop...

I've had good luck with the Maemo Word Processor, a.k.a. AbiWord 2.2.7,
Maemo Word Processor, a.k.a. AbiWord 2.2.7 -

Its got some bugs, (without the bluetooth keyboard, once you use the full screen touch keys, you can't get back the on-screen smaller keys without restarting the program...read the thread) and isn't as polished as Etrunko's excellent Gnumeric port, but I regularly load and save Word .doc files and file share through gmail.

http://four.fsphost.com/dcarter/screen1.jpg

I have excellent productivity with my broken, spanish language thinkoutside stowaway keyboard, and can do all I ever need with it. It is a bit laggy, but solid enough for real use. All standard formatting is there. The Gnumeric port is extremely fast for data entry with the bluetooth keyboard.

Novell's web client for my school is fast enough for me to do attendance, detention logs (with gnumeric), email and file sharing (either through Novell or Gmail) and web browsing via google's personalized desktop through my HSDPA LG-cu500 phone.

It streams radio anywhere, holds a charge all day, and loads topo, road, or satellite maps to your location or anywhere else with maemo mapper.

I am wondering why retailers can't in-stock the N770 anymore. I'd buy another one if I could find it, because my brother in law wrote "stars", that cool stargazing program recently ported to maemo. How much cooler could a N870 or whatever be???! :D

http://four.fsphost.com/dcarter/screen2.jpg

dcarter

gigabites 2006-12-13 00:39

my completely frivolous wish app?

Karaoke!! surely the 770 can handle the simple text file(.cdg) that comes with an .mp3 inside of a mp3+g package. The big screen is perfect for it. MP3+g is easily found on usenet, you can make em from your own karaoke discs.

Karel Jansens 2006-12-13 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcarter
clearly none of us would mind an applet quick launch on the desktop...

I've had good luck with the Maemo Word Processor, a.k.a. AbiWord 2.2.7,
Maemo Word Processor, a.k.a. AbiWord 2.2.7 -

Its got some bugs, (without the bluetooth keyboard, once you use the full screen touch keys, you can't get back the on-screen smaller keys without restarting the program...read the thread) and isn't as polished as Etrunko's excellent Gnumeric port, but I regularly load and save Word .doc files and file share through gmail.

I don't criticize the current Abiword port, although I religeously refrain from blue/red pill tinkering, but I find I just don't need it anymore. I do need a good WIMP-editor (although, if it doesn't come soon, I might take a shot at learning vim).

Quote:

I have excellent productivity with my broken, spanish language thinkoutside stowaway keyboard, and can do all I ever need with it. It is a bit laggy, but solid enough for real use. All standard formatting is there. The Gnumeric port is extremely fast for data entry with the bluetooth keyboard.
Again, Gnumeric is a beauty, but -- excusez le mot -- it really sucks as a flatfile database.

lauriek 2006-12-13 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
2. an easy to use flat-file database (the best one is still the old Psion 3x's "Data"!).

Was that the same Data application as on the 5/5mx? If so I'd like to vote for a port (copy) of that as well, very handy little db...

Of course we do have sqllite but no simple gui for it that I'm aware of, and I'm sure an rdbms even a simple one like this is overkill for most users..

penguinbait 2006-12-13 17:00

Application
 
I would like to see an application that manages the respoitory lists. Something that can go out and download all working respositories at that moment. I am sick of having to turn off repositories because they are down at some moment in time. Then I have to remember to go back and turn them on to test and see they are back on.

This would also eliminate manual entering of respoitories.

Am I just crazy, does anyone else see a need for this?

fpp 2006-12-13 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
I don't criticize the current Abiword port, although I religeously refrain from blue/red pill tinkering, but I find I just don't need it anymore. I do need a good WIMP-editor (although, if it doesn't come soon, I might take a shot at learning vim).

I just learned that Scite was again available for the 2006 OS, in the Garage. Have you tried it ? It's intended as a code editor, but is also a very competent general-purpose text editor. And less painful than vim :-)

Karel Jansens 2006-12-13 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauriek
Was that the same Data application as on the 5/5mx? If so I'd like to vote for a port (copy) of that as well, very handy little db...

Well... yes and no. I believe the engine was more or less the same as in the Series 3xx, but the UI had been "beautified". Alas, IMHO not to its advantage. Then again, Data in the Series 3xx was optimized for keyboard use (amazingly optimized, even), so maybe I'm letting my extensive experience with the venerable 3a cloud my judgement of the 5mx.

Quote:

Of course we do have sqllite but no simple gui for it that I'm aware of, and I'm sure an rdbms even a simple one like this is overkill for most users..
The thing is, many users will have sqllite installed anyway, as part of another program, so this migt probably the way to go. It's not because the engine is relational, that you cannot build a nice and simple flatfile frontend.

neiljerram 2006-12-15 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by gigabites
my completely frivolous wish app?

Karaoke!! surely the 770 can handle the simple text file(.cdg) that comes with an .mp3 inside of a mp3+g package. The big screen is perfect for it. MP3+g is easily found on usenet, you can make em from your own karaoke discs.

Intriguing. You've got my interest there. If you can point me to precise programming information for the MP3+G and CDG formats, I'll take a look at implementing this.

- Neil

Karel Jansens 2006-12-15 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp
I just learned that Scite was again available for the 2006 OS, in the Garage. Have you tried it ? It's intended as a code editor, but is also a very competent general-purpose text editor. And less painful than vim :-)

I tried SciTe and found it utter cr*p. I commented on it in the editor-thread.

falcn 2006-12-17 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauriek
Of course we do have sqllite but no simple gui for it that I'm aware of, and I'm sure an rdbms even a simple one like this is overkill for most users..

maemopadplus?

ilia 2006-12-17 16:35

I still think that Bluetooth Headset support is sorely lacking

burque 2006-12-17 23:51

Maemochron: buttons on screen to start/stop/split
 
Beautiful app, but buttons on the screen (maybe hardware buttons?) would make it much easier than having to use the menu options.

Very easy on old eyes. Kudos to the developers.

Regards,
burque

jurop88 2006-12-18 23:02

I can only support the idea, after have played with canola and navicore. But only if the prog will remain light as now :)!


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