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God 2009-12-10 23:31

Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
SKYFIRE 1.5

NvyUs 2009-12-10 23:41

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
skyfire sucks so bad i deleted it and not gave it time of day since.
they make big deal about it playing embedded video but i've seen it play the most basic video at about 5 frames a second, stick with opera mini and default browser both are much better for symbian than skyfire.
skyfire might be good if your a winmo user but its not even top 3 on S60

God 2009-12-10 23:49

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
I'm not sure if you've used 1.5, but opera mini can't handle flash.

"Skyfire 1.5 has two advantages over other browsers: Its ability to play video within a page, and its ability to handle large Flash applications such as the homepage of Disney.com, a 50 megabyte Flash app."

go1dfish 2009-12-10 23:49

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Havent tried skyfire on the n900 but seems completely unecessary

Skyfire is little more than firefox running on a remote server with vnc or some other remote desktop protocol streaming audio+video or at least thats what it was last I tried on s60

go1dfish 2009-12-10 23:50

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Havent tried skyfire on the n900 but seems completely unecessary

Skyfire is little more than firefox running on a remote server with vnc or some other remote desktop protocol streaming audio+video or at least thats what it was last I tried on s60

God 2009-12-10 23:55

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by go1dfish (Post 421869)
Havent tried skyfire on the n900 but seems completely unecessary

Skyfire is little more than firefox running on a remote server with vnc or some other remote desktop protocol streaming audio+video or at least thats what it was last I tried on s60

To my knowledge you cannot install Skyfire 1.5 on a Linux platform.

NvyUs 2009-12-11 00:01

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God (Post 421864)
I'm not sure if you've used 1.5, but opera mini can't handle flash.

"Skyfire 1.5 has two advantages over other browsers: Its ability to play video within a page, and its ability to handle large Flash applications such as the homepage of Disney.com, a 50 megabyte Flash app."

i've used 1.5 and the rendering is way too slow and you get a few frames a second from videos, there is a lot of promise but progress is too slow, I beta tested 0.85 and 0.90 but they listened to no feed back and some of the same problems are still in 1.5.
hope they do a better job with s60v5 version what they are working on

God 2009-12-11 00:05

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 421891)
i've used 1.5 and the rendering is way too slow and you get a few frames a second from videos, there is a lot of promise but progress is way too slow, I beta tested 0.85 and 0.90 but they listened to no feed back and some of the same problems are still in 1.5.
hope they do a better job with s60v5 version what they are working on

Well for a winmo, would Fennec be an alternative to view flash on the browser? I haven't tried installing it, would it work?

NvyUs 2009-12-11 00:20

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
don't use winmo but my opinion from using both browsers on other platforms is they are both far from perfect and there is better alternatives on the OS's i use.
when comparing though it might be good to remember one is a beta which offers desktop like browsing and other is a full release mobile mini browser what does flash badly and pre-renders everything via a proxy gathering all your data on there server

christexaport 2009-12-11 00:21

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Its very similar to the built in browser, but Fennec isn't ready for prime time yet. And Skyfire sux. Going through proxies and needing a sign in at one point. I liked S60's OSS Webkit browser alot, and only the N900 browser is better, imo.

What is the official name of the browser, anyway? I'd heard MicroB became Maemo Browser. What is this called?

God 2009-12-11 00:25

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Yes... well, can't help it if Linux's OS' are installed on devices which don't appeal me. Winmo is alright to me, can be annoying but it brings all the experience you need on a day-to-day basis. Unless you have a job which asks for a specific technical service. Waiting for winmo 7.

God 2009-12-11 00:30

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 421891)
i've used 1.5 and the rendering is way too slow and you get a few frames a second from videos, there is a lot of promise but progress is too slow, I beta tested 0.85 and 0.90 but they listened to no feed back and some of the same problems are still in 1.5.
hope they do a better job with s60v5 version what they are working on

Btw, what processor did you use, while using skyfire 1.5?

fusi 2009-12-11 02:29

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
skyfire is a thin client and therefore imo a bit rubbish :p

christexaport 2009-12-11 04:53

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
If my browsing depends on Skyfire staying in business, I'll never like it. I don't like the cloud for simple stuff

aironeous 2009-12-11 06:09

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
I preferred skyfire over every other browser on my N95 8GB just because it atleast tried to play almost ever sites flash videos. You can talk smack about it and yes it did have its problems but I could watch daily show on hulu.com for about half a year before hulu decided to block it. I think I even watched veoh videos and veoh stuck all of the user files on to my phone from the skyfire browser and that really made me smile, because it operated just like my computer.

That was a big f'n plus in my book which is what they are talking about when they say skyfire takes away "click fear."

I haven't received my N900 yet and so I cannot judge if skyfire is better definitively than the N900 browser but so far seems like N900's browser is better from youtube videos.

Except for flash, which brings up the question I keep asking myself everytime I come to this forum,

Why do you guys not care how long it takes adobe to release current flash version for maemo?

It's like a couple of months delay for Nokia to release the N900 and you start flamethrowing "OMG such bad customer service, this release is so terrible, they need to get their act together or i will leave."

And then Adobe takes their sweet f'n time to release flash 10
and you guys are all kiss kiss we love you, thanks for your 9.4, we are so grateful we got 9.4 in our browser, OMG.

WTF?

That makes no sense to me, that is a double standard. Why cant we just go open source flash, gnash or whatever it is called. I'll put in 20 bucks to fund it.

Aren't open source programmers supposed to get mad when someone closes down the source code that limits major part of functionailty on the OS that they favor?

So why do you guys tolerate this? It makes no sense to me at all. I am not a programmer but I can pitch in some money, and I am very willing too, if it means I can release myself from Adobe's "Nokia phones are low priority" flash releases.
Who will start that monster open source flash project gnash?
And who will pitch in some money for the guys who will spend their time on it?
I will.

God 2009-12-11 14:38

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Mhm, well there's also an option to get flash on Opera's browser. (flash 9.1)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544770

aironeous 2009-12-11 15:14

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
^
That's windows mobile.

second question
Where can i suggest apps without getting my thread deleted?
Both paid and free.
Because my last app suggestion thread got deleted.
and who is going to stop pretending that Adobe doesn't have a monopoly on flash and start working on open source flash?

Anyone?.......anyone

You want to stay in flash ki** a** limbo forever?
What will happen when next flash version comes out?
Hmm? You will just wait?

God 2009-12-11 16:01

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aironeous (Post 422909)
^
That's windows mobile.

second question
Where can i suggest apps without getting my thread deleted?
Both paid and free.
Because my last app suggestion thread got deleted.
and who is going to stop pretending that Adobe doesn't have a monopoly on flash and start working on open source flash?

Anyone?.......anyone

You want to stay in flash ki** a** limbo forever?
What will happen when next flash version comes out?
Hmm? You will just wait?

I know it is, since when is it compatible with Linux? =S

But since Opera doesn't have flash, there's a way for those people who have it. It's just not activated by default.

christexaport 2009-12-11 16:18

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
The Flash performance today is outstanding on the N900. Adobe has been pretty open about Flash 10, even demoing it for all to see for the first time on...the N900! So it will be here soon. It has only been a month since the devices have apeared in our hands. Patience is a virtue.

I don't mind Flash not being open source. It will soon be replaced by HTML5 anyway. But if you can get enough cash together and a team capable of doing it, I'd support that. Free is always cool with me.

Bruce 2009-12-11 16:55

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Disney.com loaded just fine on my N900. I emailed screen captures to the author.

Bratag 2009-12-11 16:58

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God (Post 421920)
Yes... well, can't help it if Linux's OS' are installed on devices which don't appeal me. Winmo is alright to me, can be annoying but it brings all the experience you need on a day-to-day basis. Unless you have a job which asks for a specific technical service. Waiting for winmo 7.

Then what the fark are you still doing here apart from constantly posting threads/responses specifically designed to annoy and piss people off.

Honestly we banned this clown once before - can we please not do so again.

@Bruce: It wouldnt matter if you sent him Hi Def video showing exactly the opposite of what he claimed - this troll is here purely to .... well troll.

God 2009-12-13 17:05

Re: Skyfire 1.5 better than Firefox (Fennec)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 423142)
Then what the fark are you still doing here apart from constantly posting threads/responses specifically designed to annoy and piss people off.

Honestly we banned this clown once before - can we please not do so again.

@Bruce: It wouldnt matter if you sent him Hi Def video showing exactly the opposite of what he claimed - this troll is here purely to .... well troll.

You're the most ridiculous, penetrating, idiotic "human being", I've ever come across with.

First of all, this is under "COMPETITORS", I already told you to buy a dictionary.

So do me & most of this world a favour & perhaps swallow an entire box of sleeping tables? Or just stop posting your personal opinions online, like some freaky old ugly man with no social life.

But have a nice Christmas.


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