[Under consideration] Enhancing SMS experience
 

There is so much room for enhancing n900 SMS experience, what are your thoughts on the matter?

vote and propose solutions here

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ms_experience/


some of the ideas are

1- "Mark as unread" feature
2- "For follow up" flag
3- Send to Calendar feature: a feature that allows you to create a calendar entry from the SMS text or part of it
4- advanced search

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url is dead

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my bad, can you try again please

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Still dead....

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Works! Gonna check it now

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Fargus please try again, it's working fine here

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all of those ideas are awesome

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The url is dead again - nevermind it works...

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Another solution added: SMS from contacts in phone UI.

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the brainstorm conversation integration in calendar is somewhat related, especially solution #4: "create new appointment from specific sms/IM"

voting up/down is much appreciated.

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Think this is a mistyped URL later on in the thread, this link appears to work: http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ms_experience/

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Suggestion for Solution #3 - For Follow Up Flag

How about creating a To Do entry with a link back to the original SMS or possibly copying the information over to keep as self contained in case the original SMS is deleted.

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I added Send to a group of recipients to the SMS brainstorm. Please vote up/down as appropriate.

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Solutions 2 & 3 could be combined(I think should be) and still retain the same goal in mind?

Send to Calendar goal is rather obvious. Follow up, would you not want to make some sort of calendar entry or be able to setup a Note / Alarm? Calendar would be a great focus point, and should have SMS/MMS, Email, Notes, Alarm and Contact integration.

While in an MMS/SMS or E-mail, I click drop down menu and have additional options to "Create Event" "Create Alarm" & "Files" - Files can be Notes, PDFs, audio, etc.

Add an MMS Contact direct to Calendar even to a "With Whom" field or maybe into the Description, but make the Contact name interactive on event page so when clicked it goes to their info or when long pressed, menu pops up to call, find location, etc.

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if I got you right, what you're suggesting is -more or less- Solution #2, "Solution #2: "Send to calendar" feature"


i have to agree that 2 & 3 serve the same purpose up to some extent, but it leaves room for different preferences... what do you think Inacurate?

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all of the solutions are good. so bring them all in.

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Just added another two new solutions to this brainstorm, I hope people will like it and vote. These are:

Solution #12: Add option to disable simley icons
Solution #13: Make selecting SMS recipients easier

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just added

Solution #14: Disable or enable message threaded view

voting up/down is much appreciated.

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#15 in response to #9, syncing groups from mailing lists for SMS/IM

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"Solution #6: Change language within SMS"
Isn't this already working using Ctrl-Space? (http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_shortcuts_and_gestures)

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yes. i was wondering about this suggestion, too. my explanation was that it probably relates to the S60 GUI or something similar where you can easily switch between much more than only 2 languages. (OTOH, the relatively high number of votes makes you wonder... do all these people need more than two languages?)

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One SMS feature I would love to see... send SMS from a calendar event or be able to delay a SMS. Draft it now, send it later. Just throwing it out there.

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I would like that for emails too

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make links and pictures visible by default.

if someone sends me a picture in an sms, like http://liqbase.net/snowcat.jpg then download it and make it a thumbnail in the conversation.
same for links and other identifiable information in the info stream.

have pictures open in the image viewer when clicked on, have links opened in the browser etc, even postcodes and isbn numbers can have special meanings, the point is to make them easily clickable and usable in context.

the experience would be greatly improved then.
i have similar working in my irc test package liqtactoe :)

heres a rough preview where ive been testing feasibility:

http://liqbase.net/liq.20091201_191242._maemo.scr.png

http://liqbase.net/liq.20091201_0443...e-test.scr.png


works for me here, and since we are all using conversations, might as well try to add new usable features.
link it with any of the image uploading services and add a way to select your recently uploaded urls and we could feasibly have pseudo mms

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I like the delayed SMS idea, it happens often that I want to send an SMS later, but I want to write it now

propose it as a solution here if you like

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ms_experience/

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Sure. Didn't know if anybody outside of myself wanted it.

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I'd like to see a reply via option. Where when in a conversation you can select this and have the option to reply via IM, email and possibly allow other apps to register for this so you could have other possibilities,.e.g. a webtext application or somerhing like a twitter or facebook app.

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I would like to be able to see details of messages I've received and sent. For example, if the contact has several numbers it would be beneficial to see from which number it was sent or to what number did you send it. On the messages you sent, it would be nice to see when it was delivered.

I added this as a new solution. :)

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Im curious why we think of an SMS as something special.

Why not just consider it a generic message, like an IM or eMail.

What I would like to see with the conversation experience is a more complete view of your interaction with a contact or group of contact. Im not sure if anyone remembers lifeblog on the n95.... what I would like to see is a lifeblog like view under a contact. This would / could be very similar to google wave.

Essentially when i look at a contact i see the different conversations and interactions i have had including all im's tagged photos sound clips attached docs etc. For me this would be an awesome experience as I find a separate email app redundant on such an awesome piece of tech as the n900.

So to describe
- email becomes an aspect of the contact along with all messaging
- an automated way to tag files (photos or music or documents) with a contact

btw, all the other ideas around event management here are awesome and fit naturally into what i described above. Anyone wants to chat further about this idea feel free to PM me.

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I allways wondered myself why Email is not included in the conversation app, or is it just because I havent merged all contacts yet? Is there a idea to implement that?

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Is it me the only one thinking that http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ms_experience/ has gone out of control? Brainstorm proposals need to be around a concrete proposal.

Now what? Imagine that one of the 19(!) "solutions" is under development. Should we move the whole proposal to In Development and leave a big question mark about all the rest?

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I think you have to do it iteratively. Take all the serious ideas, and their votes as guidance, think about the user experience when you combine some of the ideas, implement something or form another proposal combining several things, and at some point come back to this community and say "ok, this is what we did - now what do you think?" Followed by another brainstorm... repeat.

That way the product will improve iteratively. It's impossible to make it excellent all in one go, and anyway without trying out changes, the best ideas cannot emerge yet.

For example the idea for combining email with SMS conversations. There's so many ways to do that. But what does "Clear conversation" translate to? Some people delete messages and emails after a while, but some people think deleting old emails is weird and archaic - and presumably same applies to SMS if they are merged, all should be searchable and archived. IMs are logged and archived forever by some apps and not others. What's best?

I think to a large extent, those sort of things and many others can't be answered without a certain amount of getting on with implementation or good prototypes, and repeatedly getting feedback and more refined ideas each time, and occasionally fresh new idea emerge that nobody could think of earlier. Or limitations become clearer, and ideas emerge for how to handle them.

In a more conventional devoper + developer's customer scenario (where customer is paying for development), there is a lot of iteration like this if it is done well.

Same applies here, imho.

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One thing are iterations, they are good and I agree.

Another thing is to make meta-proposals that end up being cul-de-sac of all kinds of ideas, generating huge brainstorms and long threads difficult to follow and focus on.

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I have proposed to have same sharing of calendar notes via sms functionality as in S60. Please vote!

http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...users-devices/

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Hi,

I've got a partial solution to sending SMS to groups of people. If you have a google voice account, the attached files can use that to send to google voice groups. This is a port/modification of some existing work. I modified the script to work with python 2.5 and also added some scripts and .desktop file for an icon. This is a very manual experience. I'm considering turning this in to a python based GUI program that would go in the normal repository but until then, this is a command line version that does the job.

This requires root access.

Place gvsms.desktop in /usr/share/applications/hildon/
Place all other files in /home/gvsms/ (you can adjust this location by modifying the .desktop file)
chmod +x /home/gvsms/gvMassContact.sh

That should be it. Now you can send SMS to groups of people defined in Google Voice.

Frank

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I had an idea/request. How about figuring out a way to connect a laptop/computer to the N900 and send and receive SMS. It'd require a desktop app as well.

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I noticed that the Numeric Keypad that appears in the Phone app also shows letters under each number (like the traditional phone keypads).

Is there a way to use the numeric keypad to type SMSs?

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I nearly posted a brainstorm but found the two things I wanted in the long list of 19.

I agree 19 solutions is an issue for a brainstorm, however go off the number of votes and you can at least get the idea of what people want.

For me I can't stand "conversations view", I like the view you get in outlook and normal emails of each message just being where it is. Unrelated. I don't like seeing the text I sent in the inbox, that is what a sent box is for.

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I've created a GUI and packaged up some work I've been doing into gvSMS, currently in extras-devel. It's a PyQt based application that will send SMS messages to groups defined in Google Voice. Enjoy.

Frank