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tunn3lratz 2009-12-11 15:18

Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Hi,

Does anyone in this forum have been successfully able to get to the "Hover Mode" in the browser? For some reason, I havent been able to get the "mouse cursor" at all when I do a swipe from left to right as shown in many videos. This is what I'm referring to http://maemo.nokia.com/features/maemo-browser/gestures.

Is there any setting that needs to be enabled for this? Unable to select text from web pages is a drag.

While we are on the topic, can Maemo identify if the selection made is phone number and popup the add new contact menu?

Rob1n 2009-12-11 15:21

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Works for me - just swipe across from outside the display to inside (on the left hand side - swiping the other side gives you the history).

flux41 2009-12-11 15:39

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I swipe outside to inside of the screen on the bottom-left hand side for a more reliable trigger. I do not know if that makes a difference, but it seems to for my fingers.

tunn3lratz 2009-12-11 15:46

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
thanks for the response . it just not working for me . when i swipe all it does is push the page slightly to the right. i tried it even on this page with no success. has there been any known issues reported?

YoDude 2009-12-11 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunn3lratz (Post 422975)
thanks for the response . it just not working for me . when i swipe all it does is push the page slightly to the right. i tried it even on this page with no success. has there been any known issues reported?

Are you using your thumb nail or the stylus?

marckuypers 2009-12-11 16:00

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Same problem here. I use my finger

hopbeat 2009-12-11 16:06

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You need to start the swipe outside the screen (on the black frame). Once you get this, it is easy :)

kwotski 2009-12-11 16:08

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It works for me as follows.

Run the browser and go to some website. With finger, swipe in from the edge of the phone itself on the left, just below the little speaker hole (is it?) halfway up the phone. (In other words, sweep in from well outside the visible screen area.)

Now a little box with an arrow in it appears about 1/4 of the way up the left edge of the screen.

Tap on the box. A red line appears in it, crossing the arrow, and a little cursor arrow appears on the screen. I am now in hover mode and can use the cursor like a mouse cursor.

Tap on the box again to turn it off.

sljonson 2009-12-11 16:12

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The swipe area is not the entire left side of the screen. The sweet spot for the Mouse Hover mode is halfway between the speaker slot and the lower edge of the screen. When the browser is in windowed mode you can use the status bar as a guide. The swipe area is just above the status bar.

Bratag 2009-12-11 17:01

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Use your nail - I had issues when I used my finger. Nail is far more precise and results in it working 95% of the time.

Alex Atkin UK 2009-12-11 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sljonson (Post 423037)
The swipe area is not the entire left side of the screen. The sweet spot for the Mouse Hover mode is halfway between the speaker slot and the lower edge of the screen. When the browser is in windowed mode you can use the status bar as a guide. The swipe area is just above the status bar.

It works the entire left for me, finger or stylus.

tunn3lratz 2009-12-11 20:17

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Tried all that suggested in this post - thumb, nail, stylus. Actually drained the battery out doing it. Either I'm not getting it or there is some problem with the s/w. How can I eliminate that its not a s/w problem?

melaniepittam 2009-12-12 14:00

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I can get the cursor to appear, but then I cant move it anywhere - it just disappears!

hopbeat 2009-12-12 14:02

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@melaniepittam, yes, you need to click on the icon (on the left hand side) to keep it :)

Laiska 2009-12-14 08:33

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Really took me some sweet time to get this.. thank the heavens for this thread ;)
It does seem that using your finger is a no-no, nail of the thumb/stylus works just fine.

Some effort could maybe be done to make this easier - once you've gotten it you'll get it every time, but getting that first successful sweep..Truly frustrating.

benny1967 2009-12-14 08:46

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maybe this helps:

i found it easier to do with nails/stylus.
i also found that speed matters. if you're too slow, you'll just drag the page to the right (that's what happened to me all the time). it has to be a quick movement.

melaniepittam 2009-12-14 08:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hopbeat (Post 424372)
@melaniepittam, yes, you need to click on the icon (on the left hand side) to keep it :)

Hi hopbeat, do you mean click on the cursor icon itself, because when I do that it just disappears! (Sorry if I'm being stupid) lol

archebyte 2009-12-14 09:19

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
slide to the right from outside the screen halfway between the speaker and bottom left corner with my left thumb works just fine for me everytime.

melaniepittam 2009-12-14 09:42

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Thankyou guys

kanishou 2009-12-14 10:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by melaniepittam (Post 426824)
Hi hopbeat, do you mean click on the cursor icon itself, because when I do that it just disappears! (Sorry if I'm being stupid) lol

If you do the swipe you are in "hover" mode, as long as you don't release your finger, everything you move over will be highlighted as if you are hovering over it with a mouse. If you click the arrow before it disappeared, you are in "selection" mode. Now you can release the finger and tap and drag to select or move elements of a website.

dgeros 2009-12-14 10:31

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Swipe your fingernail from the outside (black) quickly.

Tap the arrow icon box.

tunn3lratz 2009-12-14 17:09

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Is it possible that the version sent to US has this disabled or something? The "About Product" reads as follows

Nokia N900
Maemo 5
Version: 1.2009.42-11.002

Nail/Stylus dont work. All I get is the screen shifting to the right and if I hold there, I get the context menu that allows to "add address", "save page" etc.

Any ideas to determine if this feature is working any other way?

eiffel 2009-12-14 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tunn3lratz (Post 427356)
Nail/Stylus dont work. All I get is the screen shifting to the right...

If you could upload a video to YouTube that might help us diagnose whether the problem is with your device or your technique.

Regards,
Roger

eiffel 2009-12-14 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 427381)
...might help us diagnose whether the problem is with your device or your technique...

As the actress said to the bishop!

epilido 2009-12-14 17:35

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Make sure that the page you are on in the browser is non refreshing. When I use the mouse in any page that refreshes the mouse goes away.

you can use the shift key to start text selection while using the mouse pointer.

E

Suurorca 2009-12-14 17:45

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Took me a few attempts to figure it out aswell.

The sweep needs to be pretty much ninja-fast flick of finger, anything short of that will fail. But for some reason it does work quite nicely once you get it...

archebyte 2009-12-14 20:20

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tunn3lratz (Post 427356)
Is it possible that the version sent to US has this disabled or something? The "About Product" reads as follows

Nokia N900
Maemo 5
Version: 1.2009.42-11.002

I have the same version. Here is a video I made demonstrating it. Hope it helps!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVMPu83f22g

tunn3lratz 2009-12-15 03:55

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Here is a youtube link on my futile attempts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hMwhmJyTi8

Archebyte - I saw your video and that looked really simple. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong?

fphillips 2009-12-15 04:42

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/frankal...9308/?edited=1

Open up Sketch, top menu: canvas size, add to left. Try to color in the left edge. I got the above, but after *alot* of effort. It filled in quicker towards the corners.

sljonson 2009-12-15 05:15

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suurorca (Post 427414)
Took me a few attempts to figure it out aswell.

The sweep needs to be pretty much ninja-fast flick of finger, anything short of that will fail. But for some reason it does work quite nicely once you get it...

No you don't need ninja fast swipe speed, nor do your need to use a fingernail/stylus to get the gesture to work. I spent a lot of time experimenting with all of the different ways of going the gesture. I found the most important thing is doing the swipe with firm pressure on the screen. Speed of the gesture isn't that important. Using and maintaining firm pressure from off of the display area to on the display is what's needed. And from my testing, there is no special area. You can use entire left side of the screen. As long as you swipe onto the area of the web page. Swiping onto the status bars (top/bottom) won't work.

To sum it up, using firm pressure swipe from off the display on the left side to somwhere on the web page. If you do this your will enable mouse hover mode every time. Firm pressure and swipe onto the web page from the left.

Edit: And if you are using a stylus don't press to firmly. You won't want to scratch your display.

Edit 2:

tunn3lratz after looking at your video you don't have a firm enough contact with the screen. Use a little bit more pressure. The important thing is to make sure your have firm contact on the screen when your stylus is off of the screen. The key is the transition from off screen to on screen.

UCOMM 2009-12-15 14:53

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epilido (Post 427397)
Make sure that the page you are on in the browser is non refreshing. When I use the mouse in any page that refreshes the mouse goes away.

you can use the shift key to start text selection while using the mouse pointer.

E

ah thanks for that, I was wondering how to move around my boxes on bbc's homepage

eiffel 2009-12-15 15:28

Re: Maemo Browser - Hover Mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tunn3lratz (Post 428323)
Here is a youtube link on my futile attempts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hMwhmJyTi8

Archebyte - I saw your video and that looked really simple. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong?

tunn3lratz, is your finger/stylus perhaps bouncing off the edge of a screen protector?

More likely is that you're not using enough pressure. The edge pixels on my N900 seem to be much less sensitive than the ones over the rest of the screen. If you don't use enough pressure as you go over that edge, the critical first row of pixels won't respond.

Also, are you able to swipe in from the right-hand-side to bring up the browser history? It's the same gesture, but from the opposite edge.

Regards,
Roger


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