maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Nokia N900 (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=44)
-   -   How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37613)

Kieron 2009-12-18 02:22
How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Some of you may have heard that there was a one off bug reported a while ago, where someone got their into full (yet buggy) portrait mode, but couldn’t recreate the circumstances to do it again. I’ve figured out how to recreate the bug, and here’s the how-to so you can try it out for yourself.

A full guide to force your n900 into portrait mode, and a heap of screenshots can be found here - may as well link you rather than quoting the whole thing!

tomaszf 2009-12-18 02:37
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
It works :)

tomaszf 2009-12-18 02:47
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
After doing all steps, you can issue killall braek command. Screen will be normal, but still in portrait mode.

weirdbeard 2009-12-18 02:56
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=25

i liked my tutorial better a week ago. your pictures are pretty though.

Kieron 2009-12-18 11:41
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdbeard (Post 432839)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=25

i liked my tutorial better a week ago. your pictures are pretty though.
Not much of a tutorial if I'm honest. And I didn't even see it, discovered it myself on the bus thursday night whilst fiddling with extras:)

Kieron 2009-12-18 12:49
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomaszf (Post 432831)
After doing all steps, you can issue killall braek command. Screen will be normal, but still in portrait mode.
Guide updated accordingly, thanks for that!

pelago 2009-12-18 13:12
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Thanks for the post. You say to download braek from extras-testing, but then give instructions to enable extras-devel. Which is correct?

Kieron 2009-12-18 13:47
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelago (Post 433308)
Thanks for the post. You say to download braek from extras-testing, but then give instructions to enable extras-devel. Which is correct?
Your right, thanks for spotting this out. It's actually extras-testing, but I screenshotted the devel instead. FYI, this is version 1.1-1. I'll update it immediately.

Excuse the discrepancy, it was 2am. ;)

jalladin 2009-12-18 14:04
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
This is an awesome find dude, Like ur blog too! ( when i get mine I cant wait to try this out)... but from what I seen in IMO conversations, Games (bounce so far from what is shown), and Fire fox web browsing work pretty good... thats all I would need until the firmware update for it officially.

Kieron 2009-12-18 14:15
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalladin (Post 433374)
This is an awesome find dude, Like ur blog too! ( when i get mine I cant wait to try this out)... but from what I seen in IMO conversations, Games (bounce so far from what is shown), and Fire fox web browsing work pretty good... thats all I would need until the firmware update for it officially.
Cheers! In the process of theme changing for the blog atm, so it might be a little temperamental!

Yeah, I was surprised that a couple things worked. Especially Bounce, I thought that was a definite no-no.

qwerty12 2009-12-18 15:40
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
It's also possible to force a window of your choosing (instead of the entire system) to go into portrait mode, too.

I did this via SSH, but you can use something like "wmctrl -l" and pass the window IDs to the -id parameter of xprop:
Code:
xprop -f _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT 32c -set _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT 1
(*tap window*)
xprop -f _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST 32c -set _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST 1
(*tap same window*)

Kieron 2009-12-19 00:36
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 433482)
It's also possible to force a window of your choosing (instead of the entire system) to go into portrait mode, too.

I did this via SSH, but you can use something like "wmctrl -l" and pass the window IDs to the -id parameter of xprop:
Code:
xprop -f _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT 32c -set _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT 1
(*tap window*)
xprop -f _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST 32c -set _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST 1
(*tap same window*)
Interesting, I never new this was possible. Thanks. :)

YoDude 2009-12-19 08:11
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 433482)
It's also possible to force a window of your choosing (instead of the entire system) to go into portrait mode, too.

I did this via SSH, but you can use something like "wmctrl -l" and pass the window IDs to the -id parameter of xprop:
Code:
xprop -f _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT 32c -set _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT 1
(*tap window*)
xprop -f _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST 32c -set _HILDON_PORTRAIT_MODE_REQUEST 1
(*tap same window*)
I can now see how totally useless portrait mode in the browser would be. It's either going to break pages or render them unreadable if it forces images to fit while maintaining there intended aspect ratios.

Makes me appreciate the work that went into the current browser. I haven't had to fuss over UserContent.css at all. My old bookmarks are useful with out it. Changes can be made with simple gestures if needed.
With the N8**'s on the other hand I needed to make hella font and image changes to make these same pages usable. :eek:

onutz 2009-12-20 01:20
N900 constant portrait mode
 
Here is a post to portrait mode bug reproduced: utestme.com/2009/12/20/portrait/

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/...ecc3da32_o.png

I think it'll be a lot of work for Nokia to implement the trick...

Mandibela 2009-12-20 21:40
Re: N900 constant portrait mode
 
I got this 'mode' right now. Not too usable... Took some screenshots but I'm reboothing right now. Closing/opening the keyboard didn't rotate the screen.

I tried some of the apps, all did run but were difficult to use..

Oh yeah.. Pics: http://share.ovi.com/album/Mandibela.N900Portrait

Kieron 2009-12-23 12:17
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 434216)
I can now see how totally useless portrait mode in the browser would be. It's either going to break pages or render them unreadable if it forces images to fit while maintaining there intended aspect ratios.

Makes me appreciate the work that went into the current browser. I haven't had to fuss over UserContent.css at all. My old bookmarks are useful with out it. Changes can be made with simple gestures if needed.
With the N8**'s on the other hand I needed to make hella font and image changes to make these same pages usable. :eek:
I don't think portrait mode in the browser would be useless... I mean, firefox works okay... nothing gets squashed, you just have to scroll. Usefull for those simple mobile sites that were made for iphone, like facebook etc.

titi974 2010-01-13 14:50
portrait mode on n900
 
Look what i've found :
http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=...it-mode-how-to

do someone have the time to test ???

Blinde 2010-01-13 14:55
Re: portrait mode on n900
 
Do you have the time to test?

Snaps 2010-01-13 14:56
Re: portrait mode on n900
 
Horrible. He just bugged it out. No point. id rather wait for the official portrait mode.

F2thaK 2010-01-13 14:57
Re: portrait mode on n900
 
lol, i got this to happen by accident..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kngnQntH68o


EDIT: works okay, definitely needs work !!

jaark 2010-01-13 18:38
Portrait desktop & browser for real!
 
I've just been using my desktop and browser and app menu in portrait in PR1.01. I even have screenshots that I will post tomorrow as you will be able to see how bandwidth limited I am at the moment.

I had clearly triggered an odd buglet when setting down the device on a table in the pub where for some reason it didn't make the screen orientation chage (xrandr ?) call when I put it down.

The desktop wallpaper wasn't rotated though the widgets were _ half of which did not appear on screen. similar with the app menu and task manager, I only saw the left-hand side of the menu. Also the 'background press' to return to the desktop did not function at the nottom of the screen. Clearly these things were not aware of the change in screen properties.

The browser was a different matter - it used the full screen as expected the only problem being that the top and bottom bars were horribly squashed up. As long as you weren't bothered about the page title, it wasn't too unusable.

Shaking it around a bit on the desktop screen brought the phone app back and re-orienting the device brought things back to normal.

I've tried a few times but can't reliably reproduce this yet :(

AlexDT 2010-01-13 18:42
Re: Portrait desktop & browser for real!
 
It's nothing new. More people have had this with the previous FW. I had it a couple of times myself.

Corso85 2010-01-13 18:44
Re: Portrait desktop & browser for real!
 
http://kieters.wordpress.com/2009/12...e-screenshots/

zehjotkah 2010-01-13 18:44
Re: Portrait desktop & browser for real!
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...light=portrait

please merge

jaark 2010-01-13 18:47
Re: Portrait desktop & browser for real!
 
Dammit - I thought I'd seen something new :(

sjgadsby 2010-01-13 19:15
The following other threads have been merged into this one:
  • "N900 constant portrait mode", containing two posts
  • "Portrait desktop & browser for real!", containing five posts
  • "portrait mode on n900", containing four posts

Pyry 2010-01-13 20:48
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
I have written an ugly python hack to switch between portrait and landscape modes. It works for me, but I didn't find any reason to make it usable as nokia will probably support this in the near future. But I guess it might help someone so here goes: http://codingdocuments.blogspot.com/...rait-mode.html

JohnLF 2010-03-01 09:48
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
A thought on this, assuming Nokia does NOT include portrait mode as default on the desktop. Are the desktop settings held in a file somewhere? By that I mean position of icons, widgets, etc.? If so, and if enough people want the feature, then someone should be able to program a manual rotation (i.e. extending rotate.py script) so that two copies of the desktop settings are held - one for landscape and one for portrait. When the rotation occurs, the current desktop settings are saved as either settings.landscape or settings.portrait and the other file is copied over to the system desktop settings file.

Example, assuming desktop settings file is called "Desktop"
  • User installs rotate script, installation process copies Desktop file to Desktop.landscape and Desktop.portrait.
  • User invokes rotation to portrait, Desktop copied to Desktop.landscape and Desktop.portrait copied to Desktop.
  • User re-arranges desktop icons and widgets to suit portrait.
  • User invokes rotation to landscape, Desktop copied to Desktop.portrait and Desktop.lanscape copied to Desktop.
  • User can now invoke rotation and get a desktop customised for each orientation.
  • Issue when installing new icons - how to get on both desktops?

This would not solve issues with individual apps, but if more people wanted portrait, more apps would support it. The biggest issue I can see with this is the on-screen virtual keyboard which would need completely redesigning.

Any thoughts?

[DarkGUNMAN] 2010-03-01 10:13
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Sounds like a good solution, having separate portrait/landscape desktop settings would be the only way to keep the icons tidy. Personally I think some widgets would fare better in a portrait desktop.

AMLJ 2010-09-24 15:18
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
You can also, set an application to auto-rotate:

http://www.adelamlj.com/index.php/n900appsportrait.html

9000 2010-09-25 07:26
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
I've been told by some testers that (leaked) firmware V20.2010.31-7 has portrait mode.

rickysio 2010-09-25 07:54
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 825852)
I've been told by some testers that (leaked) firmware V20.2010.31-7 has portrait mode.
So far from all the Chinese forums I've visited they're reported (about V20.2010.31-7) A)Decreased Stability, B)SMS woes, and C)Chinese input still works. Otherwise, 95% of all posts are just simply posts begging for the firmware/change list. I'm not sure if I'd believe that portrait is enabled.

kennibal 2010-09-25 08:35
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
i believe maemo 5 will support portrait. the new keyboard layout introduced in pr1.2 is redesigned for future enhancements, thus it will welcome portrait mode keyboard just like in Opera.

elie-7 2010-09-25 09:11
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 825852)
I've been told by some testers that (leaked) firmware V20.2010.31-7 has portrait mode.
can u confirm that ? i mean did u got it from someone inside nokia ?

9000 2010-09-25 09:25
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickysio (Post 825865)
So far from all the Chinese forums I've visited they're reported (about V20.2010.31-7) A)Decreased Stability, B)SMS woes, and C)Chinese input still works. Otherwise, 95% of all posts are just simply posts begging for the firmware/change list.
I'm not sure if I'd believe that portrait is enabled.
Normally we expect them to give feedbacks for being testers. They're not begging for change. They're doing their job. ^^

It's an unofficial/pre-release/leaked firmware anyway, so it's normal for hitting bugs there. I'd not want Nokia released firmware loaded with bugs and forced normal users 'begging for change'. :D

9000 2010-09-25 09:27
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by elie-7 (Post 825893)
can u confirm that ? i mean did u got it from someone inside nokia ?
No...I'm not one of the testers but I'll ask them to post some screenshot and repost here later.

As the OP and others pointed out portrait mode is hidden in N900, it's just not becoming a feature yet.

rickysio 2010-09-28 08:24
Re: How to force the Nokia N900 into native Portrait Mode: Guide & Screenshots
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 825897)
Normally we expect them to give feedbacks for being testers. They're not begging for change. They're doing their job. ^^

It's an unofficial/pre-release/leaked firmware anyway, so it's normal for hitting bugs there. I'd not want Nokia released firmware loaded with bugs and forced normal users 'begging for change'. :D
Nonono, it's people reporting their experience about the new firmware, followed by 95% of the posts from non-testers begging for a link to download the firmware. The beggers are not testers.

And I think you misunderstood what I meant by begging, anyway!


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:45.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8