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rjzak 2009-12-18 02:52

Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
I know that carriers/frequencies on the next Maemo device is something that is far from being determined at this point. However, since there are Nokia employees on this forum, I'd like to throw in my vote that the next Maemo device also support T-Mobile's 3G on 1700 MHz, just like the N900 supports. If the Maemo 6 device supports provisioning for MfE and 1700MHz 3G, I'll buy it as soon as its available for pre-order.

As further support for 1700 MHz, Wind is a new carrier in Canada with the same 3G frequencies as T-Mobile USA, so more reason to support it.

I'd also like to thank Nokia for the Maemo platform and all the hard work they've put in to it. Its better than the iPhone and Android in my opinion. Anything which has apt-get, python, and other Linuxy goodness is a phone is awesome in my book!

Yfrwlf 2010-01-07 13:16

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
3G upgrades would of course be nice, but I'm more interested in integrated 4G with new Maemo devices. 4G is the new mobile Internet, and it's already available in my area and I would move to it if I just had hardware with it integrated. I'd rather not use a dongle sticking off the side of my phone, it'd be silly.

nMIK-3 2010-01-09 23:47

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Lets hope that a simple chip with HSDPA for 850/900/1700/1900/2100 support will be available by the time of the N920 (or whatever they call it).

If thats the case then a simple version of the phone will be able to cover the whole globe.

As of LTE/4G is still too early to discuss it.
If you refer to WiMAX that Sprint calls 4G is NOT 4G so it is out of discussion as well.

Laughing Man 2010-01-10 00:02

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
I think at CES there was this new thing that could efficiently run GSM and CDMA (well the next CDMA Verizon is moving onto) frequencies without significant power drain (the reason why you don't see all devices having all of them besides expense in passing regulations).

iamNarada 2010-01-10 00:06

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 461794)
Lets hope that a simple chip with HSDPA for 850/900/1700/1900/2100 support will be available by the time of the N920 (or whatever they call it).

If thats the case then a simple version of the phone will be able to cover the whole globe.

As of LTE/4G is still too early to discuss it.
If you refer to WiMAX that Sprint calls 4G is NOT 4G so it is out of discussion as well.

I would like to echo this sentiment, though I'll be honest and admit that I slightly more selfish in that I really only care about 850/1700/1900/2100 (i.e. the 3G bands used in the US).

I would also like to humble request that there be multiple (at least 2) SIM slots, so that the very rich among us (there are some right?) can subscribe to multiple data plans and have the very fastest coverage everywhere!!!

Oh, I forgot, Motorola reportedly has a chip that does AT&T and T-mobile 3G in the works, slated for release in handsets later this year, so...it's totally within the realm of possibility.

Texrat 2010-01-10 00:12

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 461794)
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If you refer to WiMAX that Sprint calls 4G is NOT 4G so it is out of discussion as well.

Please elaborate, thanks.

tissot 2010-01-10 00:17

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 461794)
As of LTE/4G is still too early to discuss it.
If you refer to WiMAX that Sprint calls 4G is NOT 4G so it is out of discussion as well.

Indeed. Stockholm, Oslo and i belive Helsinki are getting some LTE love this year from TeliaSonera. Stockholm already having the LTE up and running. 2010 won't yet be big year for LTE(I mean China and India are just building the 3G infracture :)), but i'm sure Nokia with Nokia Siemens Network will be one of the first ones to offer LTE phones when the coverage is enough and they can start making money ;)

nMIK-3 2010-01-14 22:11

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
WiMAX is just faster Wi-Fi that is designed to cover large cities. Nothing more nothing less. It's just Wi-fi technology and NOT a cellular standard completely different. The only recognizable 4G mode from the related associations is LTE.

The whole 4G/WiMAX fiasco that Spint is advertising is nothing more than false marketing.

Konceptz 2010-01-26 06:39

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 472370)
The whole 4G/WiMAX fiasco that Spint is advertising is nothing more than false marketing.

Sorry, I had to reply to this... "False marketing" is the most interesting statement I've heard in a while :D

nMIK-3 2010-01-26 22:42

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz (Post 495014)
Sorry, I had to reply to this... "False marketing" is the most interesting statement I've heard in a while :D

Glad you liked it :p

colnago 2010-01-26 22:57

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamNarada (Post 461816)
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I would also like to humble request that there be multiple (at least 2) SIM slots, so that the very rich among us (there are some right?) can subscribe to multiple data plans and have the very fastest coverage everywhere!!!.

Its not just about "being rich" as it would be beneficial to have 2 SIMs if you require a 2nd phone for your job, making life a little easier without having to carry another phone.

Although having a dual SIM 900 now would be sweet as I have Att and TMo...it would provide some redundancy in some low signal areas.

Yfrwlf 2010-02-04 16:32

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Konceptz (Post 495014)
Sorry, I had to reply to this... "False marketing" is the most interesting statement I've heard in a while :D

Well at one point in time, advertising didn't mean lying and many businesses had honor. Amazing, I know.

bxbomber 2010-02-05 00:25

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
I would love for the next maemo device to have tmo 3g.

But why wouldn't nokia just use the chip that the new blackberry phones are using that support virtually all 3g bands.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...nger-relevant/

Texrat 2010-02-05 18:07

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 472370)
WiMAX is just faster Wi-Fi that is designed to cover large cities. Nothing more nothing less. It's just Wi-fi technology and NOT a cellular standard completely different. The only recognizable 4G mode from the related associations is LTE.

The whole 4G/WiMAX fiasco that Spint is advertising is nothing more than false marketing.

You seem to be hung up and fired up over mere semantics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

nMIK-3 2010-02-05 21:47

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 512174)
You seem to be hung up and fired up over mere semantics:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

Sorry I do not have time to read the whole WiMAX definition on Wikipedia, but if they state that WiMAX is 4G cellular technology or something similar sorry but they are simply wrong.

Comparing 4G with WiMAX is like comparing UMTS/WCDMA/HSDPA with WiFi. Completely different.

iamNarada 2010-02-05 22:00

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Err, well actually, my understanding (probably wrong) was that as of the end of 2009 there were two candidate technologies that had been submitted to ITU-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU-R). These technologies are LTE Advanced (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced) and 802.16m (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.16m) more commonly known as WiMAX. There currently seems to be more support for LTE and it's successor LTE Advanced, but at this point, both can be validly be called 4G.

Crashdamage 2010-02-05 22:13

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
Simply put, my understanding is that WiMax is basically 'super wifi', not at all the same technology as LTE, though both could be called '4G' in a very general sense.

LTE should be cheaper to build, mostly because towers can be spaced farther apart. It also has the potential to be several times faster than WiMax.

I live in Sprint's hometown, but I avoid Sprint like the plague. They know not what they do.

Texrat 2010-02-05 22:22

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
True, the underlying technology is different, but what I've read indicates the definition of 4G is being expanded.

iamNarada 2010-02-05 23:41

Re: Maemo 6 Device on T-Mobile 3G?
 
To echo Texrat, WiMAX is definitely not LTE, or based on the same technology. They're competing standards. Both are vying for the 4G crown. Note that technically, LTE is not 4G, and is not being advanced as such. That would be LTE Advanced, which is slightly different, conforms to the 4G requirments and is of course slight further in the future in terms of implementation.


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