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shan 2009-12-20 09:14

Charger!!!!
 
I cant charge the phone through the wall charger...It only starts to charge when the phone is turned off....doesnt do anything while the device is turned on....any help:confused:

bsving 2009-12-20 09:16

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Are you sure you are not seeing the small battery icon charge? There is no LED light while the phone is on, only when the phone is off.

mele 2009-12-20 09:21

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bsving (Post 435135)
Are you sure you are not seeing the small battery icon charge? There is no LED light while the phone is on, only when the phone is off.

You see the same blinking orange red also when the phone is on, but only if screen doesnt have lights on or its locked

shan 2009-12-20 09:22

Re: Charger!!!!
 
nope the battery icon is not moving at all....I had it plugged in and the battery level decreased instead of it charging....confirmed it via x terminal....thorugh the lshal grep...

bsving 2009-12-20 09:24

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mele (Post 435137)
You see the same blinking orange red also when the phone is on, but only if screen doesnt have lights on or its locked

Yes correct, screen is on/off :)

Apox 2009-12-20 10:34

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Try http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35132&page=4 ?
Posted it in the last thread you made about this too :)

horus 2009-12-20 11:02

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Shan could you try something like;
Code:

lshal|grep charge
and
Code:

lshal|grep battery
and tell us the outputs. I'd like to compare them to a working unit and see if the booleans are equivalent.

cgarvie 2009-12-20 11:20

Re: Charger!!!!
 
cany any one explain wht phone says fully charged but above commnd says 89%

bsving 2009-12-20 11:23

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarvie (Post 435192)
cany any one explain wht phone says fully charged but above commnd says 89%

Some form of digital schizofrenia ?? :D

shan 2009-12-20 11:54

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horus (Post 435186)
Shan could you try something like;
Code:

lshal|grep charge
and
Code:

lshal|grep battery
and tell us the outputs. I'd like to compare them to a working unit and see if the booleans are equivalent.

I tried and got as follows...

~ $ lshal|grep charge
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 6 (0x6) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 64 (0x40) (int)
battery.charge_level.unit = 'bars' (string)
battery.is_rechargeable = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true (bool)
maemo.charger.connection_status = 'disconnected' (string)
maemo.charger.type = 'none' (string)
maemo.rechargeable.charging_status = 'off' (string)
~ $
~ $ lshal|grep battery
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 6 (0x6) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 64 (0x40) (int)
battery.charge_level.unit = 'bars' (string)
battery.is_rechargeable = true (bool)
battery.present = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true (bool)
battery.remaining_time = 10800 (0x2a30) (int)
battery.remaining_time.calculate_per_time = false (bool)
battery.reporting.current = 810 (0x32a) (int)
battery.reporting.design = 1256 (0x4e8) (int)
battery.reporting.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.reporting.unit = 'mAh' (string)
battery.type = 'pda' (string)
battery.voltage.current = 3856 (0xf10) (int)
battery.voltage.design = 4200 (0x1068) (int)
battery.voltage.unit = 'mV' (string)
info.capabilities = {'battery'} (string list)
info.category = 'battery' (string)

shan 2009-12-20 11:59

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apox (Post 435170)
Try http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35132&page=4 ?
Posted it in the last thread you made about this too :)

thanks for this...tried the methods as listed...still no luck...

m3kyd 2009-12-20 12:00

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Same here! suddenly my wall charger just doesn't charge.. Only USB charging... (haven't tried shutting phone off and charging tho)

Guenthi 2009-12-20 15:28

Re: Charger!!!!
 
I just experienced the same. I had 5 percent charge left and wanted to charge with the wall charger (what I had done before). The phone did not start to charge (no movement of the battery icon).
I plugged off the charger and switched off the phone. Now I could start charging. I started the phone again (without plugging off the charger), and the battery icon is moving now.

That One Guy 2009-12-20 16:23

Re: Charger!!!!
 
I've seen this happen a couple of times when I plugged the charger into the phone and nothing happened. However, as soon as I slid the keyboard open, it would start charging. Almost like the charging daemon was asleep and needed to be "woken up"

Croc 2009-12-20 17:03

Re: Charger!!!!
 
i noticed that if phone is locked and you plug in usb cable to charge your phone charging wont kick in till you press power and slide your finger to unlock it.
IF you take too long to unlock and the usb storage or pc sync options are gone from the screen n900 wont be charging.
it seem random at times where even when locked it still kicks in on its own and also the choice usb storage / pc sync doesn't fade away even after longer time, could be related to how i locked the phone, where it acts differently if it locks itself on its own after idle time and differently if you lock it by slider or power button
clearly software bug but can't find 100% way to reproduce it yet.
hope someone will

Croc 2009-12-20 17:04

Re: Charger!!!!
 
in addition i noticed that sometimes when phone is fully charged it doesn't always get picked up by pc when i plug it in BUT only if phone is locked.

2disbetter 2009-12-21 14:12

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shan (Post 435206)
I tried and got as follows...

~ $ lshal|grep charge
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 6 (0x6) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 64 (0x40) (int)
battery.charge_level.unit = 'bars' (string)
battery.is_rechargeable = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true (bool)
maemo.charger.connection_status = 'disconnected' (string)
maemo.charger.type = 'none' (string)
maemo.rechargeable.charging_status = 'off' (string)
~ $
~ $ lshal|grep battery
battery.charge_level.capacity_state = 'ok' (string)
battery.charge_level.current = 6 (0x6) (int)
battery.charge_level.design = 8 (0x8) (int)
battery.charge_level.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.charge_level.percentage = 64 (0x40) (int)
battery.charge_level.unit = 'bars' (string)
battery.is_rechargeable = true (bool)
battery.present = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_charging = false (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = true (bool)
battery.remaining_time = 10800 (0x2a30) (int)
battery.remaining_time.calculate_per_time = false (bool)
battery.reporting.current = 810 (0x32a) (int)
battery.reporting.design = 1256 (0x4e8) (int)
battery.reporting.last_full = 0 (0x0) (int)
battery.reporting.unit = 'mAh' (string)
battery.type = 'pda' (string)
battery.voltage.current = 3856 (0xf10) (int)
battery.voltage.design = 4200 (0x1068) (int)
battery.voltage.unit = 'mV' (string)
info.capabilities = {'battery'} (string list)
info.category = 'battery' (string)


This looks pretty decent. Although it would appear you took these readings while it's not charging. (Via USB either?)

I've been having a problem lately where the phone will not charge off of USB even though it says it will. My strings are different, in the following ways however:

battery.charge_level.current = 5 (0x6) (int)

battery.rechargeable.is_charging = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = false (bool)
maemo.charger.connection_status = 'connected' (string)
maemo.charger.type = '100mA' (string)
maemo.rechargeable.charging_status = 'on' (string)

Before it use to charge through USB, and now it's not.

A little more info for anyone with suggestions:

I'm running the USB cable through a Belkin powered USB hub, which is then connected to the back of a DGL-4500 using Shareport. For connectivity shareport works (If it doesn't a router reboot and it does, this is a known problem with dlinks shareport routers...) The current however should be independent of the shareport functionality, as it's should be getting power from the hub itself.

I've tried to disable all radios, and I'll check in a little while if I am getting any positive gains.

About your charger, doesn't seem like the phone is recognizing it, or you ran the grep charge with it not plugged in. In either case, seems like your charger may be hosed.

Do you get a charge from via the USB Cable?

2d

cgarvie 2009-12-22 07:21

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgarvie (Post 435192)
cany any one explain wht phone says fully charged but above commnd says 89%



can some one else try the
lshal | grep percen

command when there N900 is fully charged and tell me what it says, is it a battery issue i have or just that the 2 pieces of info dont actually tie up

shan 2010-01-04 07:17

Re: Charger!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2disbetter (Post 436405)
This looks pretty decent. Although it would appear you took these readings while it's not charging. (Via USB either?)

I've been having a problem lately where the phone will not charge off of USB even though it says it will. My strings are different, in the following ways however:

battery.charge_level.current = 5 (0x6) (int)

battery.rechargeable.is_charging = true (bool)
battery.rechargeable.is_discharging = false (bool)
maemo.charger.connection_status = 'connected' (string)
maemo.charger.type = '100mA' (string)
maemo.rechargeable.charging_status = 'on' (string)

Before it use to charge through USB, and now it's not.

A little more info for anyone with suggestions:

I'm running the USB cable through a Belkin powered USB hub, which is then connected to the back of a DGL-4500 using Shareport. For connectivity shareport works (If it doesn't a router reboot and it does, this is a known problem with dlinks shareport routers...) The current however should be independent of the shareport functionality, as it's should be getting power from the hub itself.

I've tried to disable all radios, and I'll check in a little while if I am getting any positive gains.

About your charger, doesn't seem like the phone is recognizing it, or you ran the grep charge with it not plugged in. In either case, seems like your charger may be hosed.

Do you get a charge from via the USB Cable?

2d

i took those readings while it wasnt charging...only the wall charger gave problems...the usb when connected to the pc...charged my phone without problems...however i ended up returning the phone back to newegg....and got a refund instead:)

EvoXLover 2010-01-04 07:36

Re: Charger!!!!
 
are you getting another phone?

shan 2010-01-04 07:47

Re: Charger!!!!
 
soo confused right now....really want to buy the n900 again but there are many issues with it currently...considering something stable like the blackberry or e 72...


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