Use the N900 responsibly while driving
 

People, please don't text, talk or fiddle with you shiny new N900 during driving. Get yourself a bluetooth kit or just simply put your device away.

Have a safe and happy holiday season.

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dude!! no one can text using N900 while driving lol. It doesn't even support portrait mode (not yet that is) nor you can fiddling with it when both of your hands are tied up. You need atleast 2 hands to operate it right now until the portrait coming along :P

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So you're saying I should use my hands for steering my car, and not texting on my N900 ?? Now, I've never...!

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Did the OP just run over someone while txting on the N900 as I imagine then? :D

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I tried it once while driving, but nearly spilt my beer!!, wont be doing that again.

Have a good one all for Xmas

Marty

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I was able to drive and Im on red lights with no problems O_O

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Texting on this thing is a death wish. A physical answer and end button would of been nice.

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This is a stupid thread.

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OOk orange, who'd you kill whilst driving today?

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But I'm a better driver when I'm texting.

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it will be hard to eat and drink coffee and text with n900 while driving, but i can try.

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"I swear officer, I was only texting! She ran out infront of me!"

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Make me... Just because you're not skilled enough to operate a vehicle and do something else like use a phone, doesn't mean none of us are.

Wait, I better not say that. If people like you had their way, we wouldn't even have radios in our cars. :p


:D

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As far as I'm concerned, you can drink, eat,text,talk,play games, watch TV or anything else you want to do while driving.

When the accident investigators determine such activities, I also support insurance companies invalidating your policies, leaving you exposed to lawsuits that will economically demolish you and/or your family. Hopefully one day this will be the case.

No need for government 'laws' at all ;)

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What gets me is all these "do-gooders" who think THEY know what's best for you.

I can fly a jet, correlate targeting data, do complex geometry and algebra in my head, scan my instruments, and look around my proximity, keep up with the jabber in my headset, and not crash. Does that mean that everyone can do this? No, of course not. Now, just because not everyone can multitask in such manner, does it mean that we shouldn't fly like this?

It's all about taking responsibility in what you do and the effect of your actions that results from your choices.

Be careful of what you wish for onto others, Dak. Karma is a Bish. :D

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you can text while drive if you know how to steer with your knee.. lol i kid

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I know a guy who did this...

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you people are such immature as it is generally expected from linux geeks

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no it's you.

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Immature??? Why? Because we have a sense of humor and can poke fun at serious issues without getting our panties in a bunch?? ;).

I second the no laws - but the insurance companies abandoning you. That's just win :D. (only if, however, the insurance company was smart enough to write it into their agreement .. ;))

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I think you'll find that comes under the general clause of not paying attention - split attention is sufficient to cover in both US and European laws. Whilst some locales might be exempt at present most companies will find a way to remove liability.

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I believe you have a moan elsewhere that the forum is full of people that are insulting others? Surely this post comes under that too!

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Laws are not designed around the abilities of a few.

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Agreed. Laws are not designed around the abilities of the few.

But at the same time, why should the few "dumb" themselves down to the ability of the masses? And I don't say that because I'm "superior" in my abilities, I'm speaking in general terms. You may be able to write fast, tight code. I can't. Should I demand that no one write code because I haven't been motivated enough to learn?

How about we have laws that every cell phone be the same in operation and look? After all, not everyone can fully use the power of the N900. Let's all have a simple cell phone with no ssh abilities, no video/audio playing capabilities (something I don't use on my N900), a small screen, and nothing but numbers on the keypad. This way everyone can use a cell phone equally and people won't have to spend too much time figuring it out, and by extension, wouldn't get into crashes when using the cell phone while driving. No? You don't want that? Why not?

Some people need to stop sticking their noses in other people's choices and how they choose to life their life.

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Several years ago a woman almost struck my then 5-year-old son with her car.

She was backing out of a parking spot, chatting on her cell phone, in a school parking lot full of small children.

"Invasive" laws are designed to protect the innocents from the idiots. That often fails to be properly considered by those believing they are inconvenienced.

I've never felt an unavoidable need to use my cell phone in a school zone. I don't have any problem focusing on my purpose at that time and then using the phone in a safer situation. I do not understand the mindset of those who fight this sort of law. That feeling that it should not be necessary doesn't take away from the fact that it is.

I lean libertarian, but I'm no extremist. So do I support cell phone restrictions?

You betcha. Keep my kids safe from the self-absorbed idiots and jerks, please. I can't always protect them.

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who uses his mobile while driving anyway?

anyone who does should seriously consider giving his driving license back.

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Far too many self-deluded people where I live, that's for sure.

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not when you kill someone driving whilst using your phone....:eek:

as for you being able to fly and do all sorts of clever multitasking (I'm so envious of your clear superiority to me), last time I was flying, didnt see many kids running about or or their bikes...

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I'd resist the idea of the insurance companies abanding those who are involved in driving accidents while on the phone.

The person to whom the payout will go is the victim, not the idiot: if your child/partner/parent is hit by some eedjit on a phone, you'd hardly be best pleased to discover they couldn't get any health cover or compensation because the driver was broke as well as stupid. Insurance isn't for the driver - it's for the other poor bugger.

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Hope the kid's OK. I mean it.

So if one idiot does something stupid, does that mean we have to have a law against it to "protect" the masses?

Invasive laws? Such as car seatbelt laws? Never mind, that seat belts kill just about as many people as not wearing seat belts. Now, granted, even the powers t be know better, since most of the "sane" states in the US make seatbelt infractions a secondary, not a primary infraction.

I don't have a problem with laws in a society. I have a problem with idiotic laws in a society.

While I agree with you on cell phone use while driving through a school zone, where do we draw the line? I mean, we already have to do 5mph (yes, I have seen 5MPH speed signs through school sones when the kiddies are out and about). What else should we do in the name of not running over a kid? Maybe we should park our cars at one end of the school zone, and walk to the other end, where our cars will magically be waiting for us?

How about and this is a grand idea, schools teach kids basic physics? You see a 2 ton vehicle is coming at you, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!

"Oh, but the kid didn't see the car that was legally on the road, while he/she was jaywalking", some would say. How about we impose some school laws on the kids? Don't walk around with your ipod earphones jammed so far up your ears they're touching the brain? How about we turn down that Miley Cyrus song a bit, while we're walking? Oh, even better, how about we don't yap on the phone, or text our friends when we're walking through an area where there might be these things called moving cars?

You, of course, do what you think it's best for your kids. But I guarantee you, laws are not for everyone. If some idiot decides to talk on a cell phone around your kids, said idiot will do it every single time. No, you can't always protect your kids, this is a given. But you can "arm" your kids with a little knowledge and common sense, like I talked about a couple of paragraphs up. Why should "I" have to look out for your ignorant kids because they're too dumb to not look both ways when crossing a street, or to get out of the way when a car is backing up?

Are there instances where something like a driver running over a kid could have been avoided? You bet. But does that mean everyone is dumb enough to do it?

Now please, don't misunderstand, I'm not calling your kids ignorant or stupid. I'm speaking in general terms, here.

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I'll let you know when that happens, however I'm fairly certain that if I ever run someone over, I will be too busy making sure I hit the person dead on. As such, I'll most likely not be using my phone at that time.


Obviously, examples elude you. And where are the parents of these kids on their bikes who are freely roaming on the roads, where cars belong, again?

I have nothing more to say to your ignorant comment.

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It's difficult to respond to your post because you assume too much about me and sarcastically go off on tangents that get far afield of my philosophies. I'm allergic to straw men. ;)

Suffice to say I covered what I meant to cover in that one post, which does not support your extrapolations.

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being responsible is not doing it in the first place.:rolleyes:

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Perhaps, but how would you define "responsible"?

Furthermore, being responsible and taking responsibility for your actions are two different things.

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FYI a good book that explains the philosophical and anatomical differences is Americans are from Mars, Europeans are from Venus.

This whole thread was started in a hope that people that live in communities where texting and talking while driving is still legal would take the moral initiative and avoid doing it anyways.

I was involved in accidents where the other driver was typing on her Blackberry and swirled into my lane.

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FFS Taking responsibility is not doing it in the first place...

get a life pal

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Now see? You know you're backed into a corner with your weak argument, and now you start with the whole "get a life pal" insults.

So let me get this straight before I go find myself a life:

Taking responsibility is not doing it in the first place? Ok... So let's say that I'm driving a loaded pick-up truck down the road, and one of the straps than an employee tied the load down with, comes loose. A piece of furniture falls off the back of the truck, and strikes a car. I shouldn't take responsibility because I'm not the one who tied the load down?

How does that fit into your argument, since I didn't tie the load down? Being the type that take the responsibility of the outcome of his actions, I'm going to stop and exchange insurance info, no matter that I or my employee were at fault.

If we were to follow your "Taking responsibility is not doing it in the first place", then I should have never moved.

Go re-think your weak argument. I'm off in search of a life at my local Mercedes dealer.

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I was wondering how long it would take the argument to reach an absurd extreme. :D

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Apparently, less that 15 posts...?

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Cant' say I'm 100% with That One Guy... but I am of not the same mind of Texrat on this.

I don't like the laws against Texting while Driving... ignoring all the personal responsibility for a minute - we have a very finite number of officers trying to enforce and ever-growing, more granular and, in my opinion, idiotic list of rules of regulations.

We can't keep convicted murderers, rapists and thieves behind bars and we're here debating texting while driving?

I will fight the officer that pulls me over for texting while driving (not saying I do, people) tooth and nail because it simply cannot be proven without pulling my phone records... and they can't do that without a court order and a whole a**-load of paperwork. I doubt any officer is going to want to go through all that just to try and say he was sure he saw me looking down at my legs while I happen to be driving.

I think unenforceable laws are a waste of paper, space, and time. Do I think people should text while drive? No. Do I think it should be a law and people getting pulled over for it? No. Hitting a child and killing them is against the law already.. if it happens - "But I was texting!" is no excuse for murder in any country that I'm aware. Unless it can be concretely proven that it was the kids fault - your backside is in jail. Lets be honest tho.. kids are stupid - and even following ALL the rules and going 15 in a neighborhood some silly kid will kick his ball right in front of your car and bolt for it.

Sometimes (most times, if you're driving defensively and paying attention) you have time to stop.. other times you do not.

So, since the cop can't pull you over for texting while driving - because it can't be easily *proved* you were texting while driving - then the only time this law will ever take place, is after you've already done something to warrant attention from the police. At that point.. what is yet another misdemeanor added on to manslaughter *really* going to add?? Is it your peace of mind we're trying to engrave here?

Then why don't we take the gun control method here as well then?? People die from cars... lets ban cars, or in this case: all cell phones. You can't tell me getting off their a** and taking a walk every once in a while is going to kill about 95% of this country (USA).

(anyone who knows me knows I'm against gun control.. but I use relatively the same logic to apply to most laws: Less laws, more personal responsibility. People are too quick to want a scape goat in this country, and it works because everyone else then goes after the scape goat.. it's not the phones fault that kid got hit - it's the drivers (usually, although sometimes you're just going to have to accept, sometimes it could be *your* kid). Let's try to remember that.)