The N900 community is NOTHING compared to the iPhone 3gs'es
 

This community is full of egotistical, i-know-it-all type geeks that have no respect for others. Many posters are childish, some are outright immature. Personal attacks, sarcastic remarks and the lack of respect to other members are missing far too often. Being too emotional and in some cases fanatic turns some threads into flame wars. There is so much that we can learn from the iPhone community.

Disclaimer: I don't own an iPhone and don't plan to own one either, but I follow their forums to learn their perspective and I can tell you that they are so much more civilized than we are.

Before you start posting insulting remarks to this thread take a deep breath and check out some of the iPhone forums out there and LEARN that there is a better way.

Peace.

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I dunno.. I propose a trial:

Go to the iPhone forum and make a post exactly like this (or just rant and rave how shitty the iPhone is).

We'll come back in three days and see which thread remains more civil. Although... I don't see this one ending up very well, personally... *ducks from the flying stones*

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i would expect the thread on the iphone forum to have been erased from the face of said forum...

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[QUOTE=OrangeBox;437726]This community is full of egotistical, i-know-it-all type geeks that have no respect for others. Many posters are childish, some are outright immature. Personal attacks, sarcastic remarks and the lack of respect to other members are missing far too often. Being too emotional and in some cases fanatic turns some threads into flame wars. There is so much that we can learn from the iPhone community.

Disclaimer: I don't own an iPhone and don't plan to own one either, but I follow their forums to learn their perspective and I can tell you that they are so much more civilized than we are.

Before you start posting insulting remarks to this thread take a deep breath and check out some of the iPhone forums out there and LEARN that there is a better way.

Peace.[/QUOTE

It might be just me but you do seem to mention the iphone alot .

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Where's the forum's "ignore" feature?

*lorelei ducks to avoid flying toilets (bonus points if you get the reference...)

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*throws snowball

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Well gee golly. With a post like this how could we not be swayed. I for one love being called an (and I paraphrase here) "egotistical, i-know-it-all type geek with no respect for others".

Here is a tip - when you want people to read your post and ponder upon it - perhaps even taking what you said to heart and following your advice and checking out the iPhone forums - you might want to start off by NOT insulting them.

Just an idea.

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I wonder if your approach is the best possible if you want to avoid sarcastic remarks. ;)

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Does orangeBox the guy who start the thread "only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost " . That was so funny

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Please refer to your own posts:

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If we look at the history of threads orangebox has started. I'm thinking that the best thing we could do is to just stop replying to these provocative threads.

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We should follow the lead of iphone and iphone forums. REMOVE THAT WHICH IS OFFENSIVE! Ban him and delete any comments that go against the status quo! Since its not possible to actually get every memeber to act a certain way, the only way to proactively try to regulate something like this, would be with strict rules and a mod community to strictly enforce them (which I imagine is the case with other forums in existence). If that were the case, there may not even be a competition section, and im sure this thread would have been deleted.

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Or, this community is full of egotistical, I-know-knothing type geeks that have no respect for what others have to do to answer all noob-questions they DEMAND answers to ??

That is the other side of it. But I think you are right in a sense, but still confused. This site quite claerly needs a crash course in Linux and using the X-term. This should be done from a total noob kind of view for persons who never have used a command line. Right now it is assumed that this knowledge is either known, or is obtained from elsewhere. This is way too arrogant for a site that try to be THE community for Maemo.

So, I don't disagree, I simply think you are a bit misinformed :D

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We have a winner!

Attention Whore of the Week goes to...

[drum role]

OrangeBox

Congratulations! And don't forget to collect your money and prizes on the way out.

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No dont ban this guy . I 'm relaxing with his threads

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it was me and that guy named Chris that keep him speak up. heheh. we did a lot funny things indeed. he always started a thread that would take at least 2 pages. hahah

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You make a statement but have yet to support it at all. I want to see empirical evidence. I want to see statistics and pie charts and research papers. Thats whats wrong with this world. People (politicians are the worst) run around making wild accusations and claims and COMPLETELY disregard providing support.

NOTE: I am not providing support for this statement, if you will notice, which lumps me in with the idiots I'm complaining about. However, hypocrisy aside, the principle is sound.

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Noo. do not ban him. i repeat, do not ban him

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They kicked you out?

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We need a way to put threads on the Ignore list, too.

Proposal: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...790#post437790

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Steve Jobbz just wont leave maemo.org forums. look he made 146 posts!!!

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anyway, the beauty of bb compared to wiki, is that flame war in some place will not affect the whole. cmiiw.
eventually, everybody will just leave the thread.

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Okay let me just start flinging som poo here as I'm provoked by the OP shouting NOTHING! and I want to feed the troll (with poo)

Ha! Either you are liar (and do own or want to own an iPhone), you are a iPhon-o-phile or you just like to flame and provoke. Either way I have a really hard time taking you serious as I think you are all of the above :-D

Any ways its always funny (not ha ha funny) to read your rants...

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This planet is full of ignorant and impolite people. On the Internet some of the ignorants become lurkers and some of the stupid ones act worse than they do in real life. Any loosely moderated Internet forum will be as good as its worst posters are. Face it.

Now, maybe the iPhone forum is “nice” because they don't have much to talk about? Do they compare it to competitors every 10 posts like we do, for example?... And do iPhone users feel the need for lacking features, and feel that they can discuss that with other users and developers? I doubt it, I bet they are a bunch of lambs waiting for the messias to come back with god-given apps from the top of the Olympus.

Are there open source projects for iPhone applications? Do they go on having significantly less internal conflicts than it happens in any normal floss project? How come?...

If childish behavior and sarcasm is a necessary colateral effect of doing things they way it's done in Maemo instead of the Apple way (and others), I say it's a small price to pay, and “yes please”.

The Iphone is ugly. Maemo is fat. But we can diet...

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At the risk of sounding unpopular, the OP has a point. Although his methods of confronting a community issue could have been far more tactful, this is hardly the first time such concerns have been voiced, and it would be prudent as a community to consider the issue more seriously.

I suspect that many posters are intimidated to post for fear of getting a snarky response, less than encouraging 'use the search' feature, sarcastic posts over legitimate concerns with the hardware/software, or mention of competing devices. While I don't think that this 'attitude' is representative of the entire forum, I've witnessed it enough to know that it's a barrier to community growth, and hurts the experience for many.

We should strive to champion the same openness and freedom in our community that we expect from our handsets.

}:^/~

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Or they could simply type a simple google search and get all the information about using an xterm and common linux command line commands.

Why should the community provide a spoon fed repetition of information that can be easily obtained by people who exert even a minimal amount of effort.

People need to start using that big ole ball of fat and nerves they have rattling round in their skulls.

http://www.google.com/search?q=commo...ient=firefox-a

There I will even get them started.

I say again Mediocrity should not be rewarded. People with a brain they actually use RISE UP!

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Respect is earned, my delusional friend. It is not given freely.

Speaking of yourself here? Childish, like creating a thread telling everyone to not use their phones while driving? Who in hell died and made you king of telling us what to do?

Immature? Because we as a masses here, don't agree with your naivety?



Personal attacks? You ain't seen no personal attacks yet. But such things can indeed be arranged.

Nope. Not flame wars. Just conversations YOU don't agree with, which in turn you call flame wars because it's a lot easier for you.

There is so much that we can learn from the iPhone community.


Disclaimer: I don't really give two rat turds whether or not you own an iPhone. If you don't, you should go buy yourself one and see just how crappy it really is in general. I have owned iphones. They are fine for what they're designed to be used as. Simple communication devices with a pretty interface, and a decent multimedia player. But don't you compare the iPhone to the N900... again. They are two totally different devices in form and function. Sure, they can both make calls, play music and videos, but realistically, that's where the similarities end.


Insulting? To whom, exactly? How do you know I wasn't insulted at your calling some of these guys "egotistical". Some of these "egotistical" guys bring us something called software, that we can use on our devices. I don't consider someone with more skills than I in a particular subject "egotistical".

To all of the "egotistical" software writers here.... Thank you.


I prefer war. It weeds out the beatniks and the pacifists. :D

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ok on to something more interesting. ill be in london next month. you guys know of some good spots to grab a bite?

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You know what Mr.? I think you should re-check all those iPhone forums yourself and see the difference. I don't see clueless, egoistic, dumb, spamming, desperate, naive, arogant posts on this site. I'm not here who knows how long, but I'm here long enough to say, that one of the reasons i didn't buy the iPhone was the fact that 99% of people on those boards are ******ed kids who don't know how to act. And even if iPhone had a zillion apps, it won't change the fact that Apple fanboys are brainwashed amateurs. iPhone my ***. Peace.

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I am a bit bored of people accusing other people of some behaviour while they show the same behaviour.

Don't feed the trolls.

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Wow.

I know I disagree with a lot of this community, I do however show it respect. I think coming out and stating that the forum is full of egotistical, et al types is definitely not putting your best foot forward.

Anyplace you can hit up the actual devs of the platform and/or application and make minor requests and interact with them directly and outside the confines of e-mail and/or Twitter, I really like that.

Instead of seeing things as a bunch of egos, search more first. Read more, try more. I've had a N810 since day one... a 770 pretty early on. And I basically rely on this community to help me through any parts that I might not know or need help with.

You will do well by centralizing the iPhone discussions - sorry, but I'm also active in the iPhone areas, they're not that friendly either once you step outside of their realm usually - and really start to ask questions with the intent of learning and not criticizing. You'll go further that way.

Good luck.

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Here are some of his posts, you'd understand where he is coming from..
1: Emails are not part of Conversations? Why?
2: I love the kickstand, I hate the kickstand
3: I am right handed and the usb slot is on the wrong side
4: Do I need a screen protector for the N900? and the famous
5: Theory 1: only 30% of the cost of the N900 is "real" cost

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who cares about the iPhone here??? I'd be there and not here if I did so not that bothered how they behave.

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Like Capt'n Corrupt, I'll risk opprobrium by saying that there are also intelligent and impolite people and some of them can be found on this forum. There is nothing wrong with wishing a noob had searched for an answer before posting but there is a lot wrong with only telling him to search. If you don't want to answer questions, that is fine. But refrain from posting, in effect, "I know but I won't tell you." And whatever you do, don't tell a noob with a problem that they should buy an iPhone - Apple doesn't deserve the business and the noob doesn't deserve the grief.

I don't follow the iPhone forums but I do dip into Android at times. There, I have seen more posts condemning rude responses to noobs than I have seen posts which are rude responses to noobs. The same cannot always be said for us.

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This forum needs some moderators.

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Here you go: http://forum.iphoneworld.ca/iphone-3...html#post99854

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Check your last sentence there. Fail.

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Just....... wow.

Oh well... my curiosity is most certainly going to be satisfied now... that may be the only iPhone thread I ever read.

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It's really miserable that you don't know what to do with your time and keep posting useless flamebaits.