N900 problems.. NOT!
 

I got my N9 yesterday and I happy to report it is working great! No dead pixels, no mic issues, no speaker issues, everything is running smoothly, and the battery was undrainable! Seriously! I was so scared at first but I'm very pleased now. Let's hope it stays that way (knock on wood).
Just wanted to let everyone know it's not all that bad.

Edit- Oh god the keyboard just fell apart!

Edit- Just kidding! :D

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can you tell me how much you battery stays until it dies? I'm going to buy it, too soon, i want to know how long it can be without charging

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There are dozens of posts on battery life, do a search. All depends on your usage. Mine lasts at least 24hrs and I hammer it constantly :D

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I too have found my N900 to be very reliable. I have tried loads of apps and use the device all the time. Have had one re-boot and a problem with media files indexing, simple terminal command fix sorted that.

Otherwise it is by a long way the best device I have owned, almost replaces my laptop too. Appreciate there are a few rough edges but things can only get better from here :D

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That will depend on how, and how much, you use it. Mostly as a phone? As a pocket computer? A multimedia device? With/without 3G/wifi/bluetooth? Lotsa photos? Lotsa web surfing? Or only email/sms?

It does so many things battery life can't be summed up in X hours. For comparison, I'd say it's maybe somewhat better than an iPhone 3GS, definitely better than a HTC G1. I'm happy with the battery life. That's about as specific as I can be about something determined so much by the user.

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Hi,

Just wanted to contribute to people reading this forum.

I ordered mine at end of November in Finland and got it by 14th of December. Unfortunately I had bad luck, meaning that my N900 started rebooting after few hours of usage. It continued for a day and then the phone bricked.

I read all the forum posts and because of no permanent fix I returned it to the store. I got a new one just before Christmas.

So now using the new one about a week I can confirm that there are bad apples (I am pretty confident it is HW related), but the good ones are great (not a single reboot or glitch with pretty heavy usage)! The battery is much better than I expected (2-3 days with reasonable web surf, camera action, music listening, etc), and the usability is something I have wished for using HTC Windows mobile phones for last three years.

I am a geek and engineer, so I like stuff that can be configured and changed, but I can tell that the functionality is much more "main stream" than I expected. So everyone who is contemplating buying the phone, I think the forum posts relating to "problems" is skewed too heavily as the happy users are enjoying the life with N900 and forgetting to post here ;)

Yka

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I also have had zero problems. In fact, the only problem is that my wife hates the N900 because I'm aways fondling it & not her.

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Mine is also working great. The only issue is the battery life once i connect it to wi-fi. I have the Wi-fi bug. Once i connect it and after disconnetion, the battery just drains fast as hell. Only rebooting seams to solve the problem.

Has anyone filled a bug report about this? I hope that the new firmware will solve this

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My battery drains really fast as well. It only lasts 12 hours with reasonable usage. Mostly with wi-fi. I have disabled the facebook widget as it was constantly using 20 - 50 percent cpu uasge.

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Magel282 is your device fully charged?

i found that mine was reporting being fully charged when it was actually only at 88%

also have you enabled power management for the WIFI? Have you reduced the output from 100 mw to 10 mw?

if you are using the wifi continuously for 12 hours then 12 hours is actually pretty good for any device. If not, then check how often you are checking for emails etc.

My phone easily lasts a full day including 3-4 hours of browsing over wifi and another 3-4 hours of playing games on it.

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How do I check if it has charged to 100 percent? I am only going by the battery indicator. Also how do I adjust the power for the wi-fi? Cheers.

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I never used the facebook widget. i tested it during 2 days.

day 1: Full charge over night, normal use (calls, sms, applications,games BUT NO WI-FI): At midnight i still had 1/4 battery.


Day 2: Full charge overnight: First thing in the morning, wi-fi on, check e-mail, wi-fi off (5min tops). normal use and by 2 pm, battery out. Then, full charge, no use and by bed time, less than half the battery.


day 3: REBOOT. Charge over night. 2 phone calls, 5 sms and 15 min of music (mp3). Now, battery still full.



Just the fact of turning on Wi-fi and then turning it off will forever drain you battery until reboot. It's a bug and it has been discussed in this board before. Hope it's corrected in the next firmware

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Ok will reboot and charge it and see how it goes tomorrow without using wi-fi.

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immediately after the phone states it is fully charged, open xterminal and type this:

lshal | grep perc

it should give you the percentage.

To enable power saving on the wfi follow the steps:

Settings -> Internet Connections -> Connections

Select your wifi connection and press Edit then :

Next - > Next -> Next -> Advanced

Then click on the Other tab and change WLAN transmission power to 10 mW and power saving to On (maximum)

press Save - > Finish -> Done -> Save

You should be ready now.

In any case, make sure you disable the wifi when it is not needed

I hope this helps

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Thank you Yorg. I've done that already and the problem is still there. Wi-fi is always disable when not in use and once activated and the deactivate it keeps working in background or at least it seams so.

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Hey
Fully charged battery, using wifi (IM messaging and internet ALL the time) battery lasted for about 3.5 hours

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Thanks for this yorg. Did that xterminal thing and it said that my battery was at %87 after a full charge :/. How did you get it to charge all the way? Cheers.

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OMG. Get over it for once. It is ONLY A DEVICE.

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Three weeks now and no problems at all.

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Mine is working perfectly. Zero issues.

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orange- yes its a device- but when you are sitting down watching some boring location programme/or what the partner likes and you dont- you grab a gadget(well some of us do)- and sometimes girls hate it..


ps: why do i feel like i am trying to explain this to a virgin.

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Must be something wrong, should be much longer than that.

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As lovemov said. Something is wrong.
I get those kind of times on my N800 if I connect to a wi-fi access point which doesn't support power saving mode. Some cheap ones.

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Lol, my girlfriend doesnt understand why I want to play with it and not cuddle her in the same situation..

Anyhews have'nt used wi-fi today and I still have half battery left although I still have'nt used it as much as I did yesterday. Can someone explain why my phone tells me I only have 88 percent battery left after a full charge?

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Hmm zero problems here. I can get through a day with moderate use. One thing I noticed is that leaving my main internet active (edge) with pidgin running in the background reduces battery life, if I am using it for browsing etc, it won't last more than a few hours. I am hoping that it is pidgin that needs opitmizations.

With that said once pidgin is off and I only use internet when required I can easily get through a day, turned down the brightness and removed all those widgets....

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No problems on mine. I've had near-zero wi-fi use due to the reported bug and don't want to reboot my N900 everytime I use wi-fi. I go about 36 hours in between charges (with about 20+% life showing on battery indicator). This is with moving files via bluetooth (approx 100+mb), some phone calls and text messages and about an hour of music.

I have one stuck pixel, noticed a couple more that are extremely light that I've chosen to ignore.

I like the phone and consider it Nokia's best phone to date. IMO, nothing is perfect. If you spend enough time looking for imperfections, you will find them.

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You guys need to change your women. I play with either the laptop or the n900 whenever I'm watching TV. One of the best things since I installed twitter is chatting to people about programmes I'm watching.

A man would have to work really hard to get my attention away from my gadgets... and he'd have to get used to me picking up the n900 afterwards. :p

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As with everything there must be balance, need to keep the woman satisfied then deal with gadget addiction hehe

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sorry, lost track of this thread.

i am not 100% sure how I did it. I noticed that mine was at 87% immediately after I unplugged it. so I tried to charge it again but it kept saying "battery fully charged"

so I used it for about 5 mins and tried to charge it. at some point it started charging again and went to 97% this time. Ever since, it goes up to 97% or sometimes 96%.

The main thing is that if you get it to 97% rather than 87% you ll see a 11.5% increase in battery life which for me was about 3 more hours.

Also at some point when I got the phone I copied a file I saw here that kills the wifi process when I disconnect from the wifi. I am not sure whether it is working though.

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If I use my N900 only like a phone (very few wifi, very few 3G) with some calls and some SMS, it lasts at least 3 days easily.

If I use it a lot (lot of wifi, updates, 1h30 phone call, some gaming with SCUMM, terminal, photo etc) it lasts 1 day

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I have N900 more then 1 month, so:

Intensive WiFi - up to 5hours, highly depends on screen brightness.

Periodic daily WiFi (each hour around 10-15mins) and phone calls - whole day (12h).

Periodic daily 3G and phone calls - 2 days (yes, but you should disable WiFI and stop wlancond daemon and unload wl12xx, mac80211 and crc7 drivers). Intensive - one day (12h)

(the WiFi problem is acknowledged by Nokia and they already prepared a fix in next release, but still doesn't do it public yet)

Video play - around 5-8hours. (Yutube takes more energy - 5h - because of WiFi/3G)

Just phone - weeks.

Some tricks do exist to save battery, like stopping/killing some not energy saving applications or locking screen ASAP, of course.

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Noticed mine charges to 100% but then drains when still connected to the charger for some reason. The phone must still run of the battery even when conncected to the mains.

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Yes, that's what I think too. I am not sure whether all charging mechanisms work like that. It seems that once the phone reaches full charge, the charging stops but the phone starts draining the battery on standby. Then when the battery reaches a certain point, it starts charging again. So charging it overnight does not mean it will be full in the morning.

As I said, this may be old news. I am not sure what can be done about it.

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This has been my observation also. By the time I turn it back on in the morning it has lost over 10% charge probably just from powering the little green light.

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also have you enabled power management for the WIFI? Have you reduced the output from 100 mw to 10 mw?


How is this done? and what exactly does it mean by reducing the power of the wifi. What does this do to your web browsing experience?

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Yes I have done this according to yorg's instructions on the second page of this thread. Reducing the power to the wi-fi will make the battery last longer but will effect the range and perhaps speed of the connection to the router.

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is there a bug filed for the battery not charging up to 100%?

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Re Battery, when you say it never reaches 100% what percent does it get to? 98% 99%

I'm wondering if the N900 is being over clever and recognising 'battery wear' and therefore never reporting full? For example battery bar on my netbook indicates I have lost 3% of my batteries original capacity due to wear, however my netbook still reports reaching 100% charge to the OS. Maybe the N900 (lshal|grep) reports actual capacity, just a thought.

Does the battery icon look 'Full' even when lshal indicates less?

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Mine hasn't lasted a full day since i got it? i'm use to it n doesn't really bother me? I charge it sometimes 3 times a day n now i have a "ted baker portable charger" look one up on ebay for about 15 quid gives u at least 2 full charges when out n about, charger in my van n plugged in when i'm at home.
All i can say is get over it! the battery isn't good enough for the phone n theres nothing you can do about it except charge it all the time

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natedog400,
Care to little open your daily usage and have you tried to install batterygraph and monitor/analyze your daily usage and how different things affect the battery life.