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heybige 2010-01-05 15:16

T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
(Mods - sorry if this is in the wrong forum)

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5310
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/01/t-mob...#comment-39906

Confirmed (Washington DC)!

SpeedTest screenshot:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/...dcd0c276_o.png

colnago 2010-01-05 16:29

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DOH! Guess I got to drive 30mi. to get getter speeds.

Did you get an update the other day for the APN ifno? I'm up near Baltimore, and T-Mo pushed out an update, changing the "Connection name" from "T-Mobile Internet", to "WAP Settings", along with configuring a "proxy address". I'm still connecting to epc.tmobile.com, but notice that speedtest.net has my "position" in Maryland now, (vs. New Jersey, or Kansas, on the other APN, Internet2.). I was manually changing APNs for testing, but update moved me from Internet2, back to epc.

I'm still only getting ~940Kb down at best, and still getting solid full bars of 3.5G.

That One Guy 2010-01-05 16:34

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Better than last time, even on 3G. 3.5 is spotty in my 'hood.

schettj 2010-01-05 16:34

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No obvious update in SFBay Area either... same "3.5G" speeds w/full bars down at 1mbps +/- a few. Uplink speeds at .5mbps, seems a hair faster then before (was getting .3xmbps before)

osomanos 2010-01-05 16:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 454143)
Better than last time, even on 3G. 3.5 is spotty in my 'hood.

This is Wi-Fi speed you're measuring, not 3G.

smolomiami 2010-01-05 16:42

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by osomanos (Post 454148)
This is Wi-Fi speed you're measuring, not 3G.


yes that's right

schettj 2010-01-05 16:47

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by osomanos (Post 454148)
This is Wi-Fi speed you're measuring, not 3G.

LOL good catch, I didn't notice the wifi icon in the status area in his screen shot ;D

Dinho 2010-01-05 16:54

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
I also only get 1mbps D/L on 3.5G connection via T-Mobile. But I live in a small town, so it's still much better than I got on the iPhone with only 2.5 (edge) speed.

heybige 2010-01-05 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 454135)
DOH! Guess I got to drive 30mi. to get getter speeds.

Did you get an update the other day for the APN ifno? I'm up near Baltimore, and T-Mo pushed out an update, changing the "Connection name" from "T-Mobile Internet", to "WAP Settings", along with configuring a "proxy address". I'm still connecting to epc.tmobile.com, but notice that speedtest.net has my "position" in Maryland now, (vs. New Jersey, or Kansas, on the other APN, Internet2.). I was manually changing APNs for testing, but update moved me from Internet2, back to epc.

I'm still only getting ~940Kb down at best, and still getting solid full bars of 3.5G.

Interesting - I just noticed that the EPC "location" is now Washington. It was previously Philadelphia. That said, my APN settings have not changed automatically as some users have reported. Also worth noting that I don't have any proxy addresses or IP fields filled out.

colnago 2010-01-05 18:32

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heybige (Post 454276)
Interesting - I just noticed that the EPC "location" is now Washington. It was previously Philadelphia. That said, my APN settings have not changed automatically as some users have reported. Also worth noting that I don't have any proxy addresses or IP fields filled out.

I started on the $10/mo T-Mo "Shadow/web2go" plan (I know, I didn't understand their pricing tier, but again, was still good for 3Mb in Philly) and the SIM card came with the Internet2 APN. I wasn't able to use epc.tmobile.com APN until they switched me. I was manually changing it to test for the upgrade, and Sat. night it was set on Internet2. Maybe that's why "I" got an update on Sun morning?

DuSStyBottoms22 2010-01-05 19:02

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How do you know if you get an update? I just looked and I am on the internet2 as well. One thing to note is that my sim card is probably 10 years old.. would it be advantageous to get a new sim?

colnago 2010-01-05 19:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuSStyBottoms22 (Post 454360)
How do you know if you get an update? I just looked and I am on the internet2 as well. One thing to note is that my sim card is probably 10 years old.. would it be advantageous to get a new sim?

I had a system message on my phone "Carrier has updated settings...apply?"

osomanos 2010-01-05 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuSStyBottoms22 (Post 454360)
How do you know if you get an update? I just looked and I am on the internet2 as well. One thing to note is that my sim card is probably 10 years old.. would it be advantageous to get a new sim?

I had a sim card that was about 6 years old and I could set the N900 to use either the internet2 or epc service. A few days ago I put in a brand new sim card, but now only the epc settings work for 3G.

DuSStyBottoms22 2010-01-05 19:11

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I tried to manually set it to epc and i'm getting a t-mobile webpage stating a subscription upgrade is required.. I'm using the 10$ unlimited internet plan. Is it worth it to upgrade?

:edit: I've been with t-mobile since it was voicestream and I've never been notified of any new carrier settings hehe.

weirdbeard 2010-01-05 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuSStyBottoms22 (Post 454376)
I tried to manually set it to epc and i'm getting a t-mobile webpage stating a subscription upgrade is required.. I'm using the 10$ unlimited internet plan. Is it worth it to upgrade?

:edit: I've been with t-mobile since it was voicestream and I've never been notified of any new carrier settings hehe.


you should not have to upgrade. Call tmobile and tell them your internet is not working. I had the same problem with an N97. First they told me I had to upgrade to the smartphone plan, then they found that my account was just not configured right on their side. No problems since.

joshv06 2010-01-05 19:16

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Do ya'll guys have the web2go service? or the full ''smart phone internet'' plan? And what APN?

I have web2go, internet2.voicestream.com APN, and live in Houston. I get 1.6 Mega Bits down

DuSStyBottoms22 2010-01-05 19:17

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Hmm, it's actually working fine.. I think? :) I'm not to sure I want to call them and then they realize I do have a smart phone and force me to upgrade.

DuSStyBottoms22 2010-01-05 19:20

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
My plan is called Unlimited Web For Phones and it's 10$ a month.

colnago 2010-01-05 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by weirdbeard (Post 454383)
you should not have to upgrade. Call tmobile and tell them your internet is not working. I had the same problem with an N97. First they told me I had to upgrade to the smartphone plan, then they found that my account was just not configured right on their side. No problems since.

Yeah, but once on the phone, they may bump him to the $25 plan...happened to me, even after trying to tell them I was "shopping phones". I'd wait to see if speeds change on Internet2 plan before calling for support.

colnago 2010-01-05 19:26

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshv06 (Post 454390)
Do ya'll guys have the web2go service? or the full ''smart phone internet'' plan? And what APN?

I have web2go, internet2.voicestream.com APN, and live in Houston. I get 1.6 Mega Bits down

Again, I had the Internet2 APN, on the $10 plan, and was good for 3Mb down in Philly, not in MD where I am. Not sure if I was in range of a 7Mb tower when I was in Philly though, but just confirmation that the Internet2 APN is good for more than 1Mb as most people are getting.

DuSStyBottoms22 2010-01-05 19:26

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I seem to be getting decent speeds.. 7.2 though? I dunno. If I go through Speedtest.com I'm getting horrendous down and up but I'm also pinging out at over 500. Normal surfing is fine and other tests like mobilespeedtest I'm getting 2k down.

colnago 2010-01-05 20:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuSStyBottoms22 (Post 454418)
I seem to be getting decent speeds.. 7.2 though? I dunno. If I go through Speedtest.com I'm getting horrendous down and up but I'm also pinging out at over 500. Normal surfing is fine and other tests like mobilespeedtest I'm getting 2k down.

The server you are chosing is too far away from where speedtest is reporting your location.

realcomix 2010-01-05 20:13

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thats slow for cox internet .. to prob test your cox internet connection go to test.lvcm.net

eladts 2010-01-05 20:24

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 454143)
Better than last time, even on 3G. 3.5 is spotty in my 'hood.

According to the screenshot you uploaded, you are connected using Wi-Fi, so your test has nothing to do with the 3G network. You would get the same result even if you had no cellular coverage at all.

smolomiami 2010-01-05 20:44

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Conversation with T-Mobile CSR

Mark Meyer: PhoneScoop has announced that 7.2 Mbps is available today throughout the whole T-Mobile network. Is that true. I am in Louisville, CO and am still only getting 600 - 800 Kbps on my TP 2.
_Stefanie L: Thank you for waiting patiently while I was able to access your account. I would like to take this time to thank you for being part of the T-Mobile family since 1997.
Mark Meyer: Here is a link to the PhoneScoop article.
Mark Meyer: http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=5310
Mark Meyer: All of the blogs are on fir this morning over this announcement.
Mark Meyer: fire
_Stefanie L: We do have limited information about this at this time. We have not released any new speeds today.
Mark Meyer: Really?
Mark Meyer: What is the limited information you have that you can share?
_Stefanie L: Currently we are only offering up to 1.20 Mbps with our 3G service.
_Stefanie L: We are currently working to expand our bandwidth to be able to provide faster speeds for our 3G services.
Mark Meyer: But no big launch ot 7.2 Mbps network wide today?
_Stefanie L: No, we have not released any new speeds for our 3G today.
_Stefanie L: We are working to improve our 3G coverage every day and expanding.
Mark Meyer: Also, I have noticed that your coverage map has not been updated in a long time to indicate areas that suppport 3G. For instance, I was in Montogomery, AL over Thanksgiving and got 3G speeds then. The map still has not been updated. Any idea when the map will be updated?
_Stefanie L: We launch new 3G sites every day, so sometimes it is not updated immediately. We do try to keep it as current as possible however.

colnago 2010-01-05 20:47

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Customer service isn't going to be updated with corporate decisions or announcements. Best thing to do is get hold of someone in the "public relations" department.

gesperon 2010-01-05 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 454569)
Customer service isn't going to be updated with corporate decisions or announcements. Best thing to do is get hold of someone in the "public relations" department.

I spoke with Tier 3 Tech support today and they told me the same thing... No upgrade in place yet... Also told me that when it happens I wouldn't need to make any change on the N900 (he mentioned he was familiar with the device)

That One Guy 2010-01-05 22:03

Re: T-Mobile (USA) Upgrades to HSPA 7.2Mbps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by osomanos (Post 454148)
This is Wi-Fi speed you're measuring, not 3G.


It is. I felt like a schmuck when I was going to send that picture to a friend of mine a few minutes ago, and realized that I was on the home WiFi at the time.

Then, I got slightly annoyed, as I'm supposed to be at 50Mb per second (I'm a lucky Cox customer who happens to live in the area where they're beta testing these speeds in Scottsdale AZ).

So yes. You cannot measure 3G on WiFi. No matter what the smart kids tell you. Don't believe them.

:D

jspenguin 2010-01-05 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 454730)
It is. I felt like a schmuck when I was going to send that picture to a friend of mine a few minutes ago, and realized that I was on the home WiFi at the time.

Then, I got slightly annoyed, as I'm supposed to be at 50Mb per second (I'm a lucky Cox customer who happens to live in the area where they're beta testing these speeds in Scottsdale AZ).

So yes. You cannot measure 3G on WiFi. No matter what the smart kids tell you. Don't believe them.

:D

Before you complain to your ISP, test your speed with a wired connection to make sure that wifi is not your problem. Also, speedtest.net uses flash which runs slowly on the N900. I think it might be affecting the reported speed.

colnago 2010-01-06 00:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gesperon (Post 454577)
I spoke with Tier 3 Tech support today and they told me the same thing... No upgrade in place yet... Also told me that when it happens I wouldn't need to make any change on the N900 (he mentioned he was familiar with the device)

Fair enough, but in "what place"? Pic is of TMo in DC, and Philly definately has the higher speeds:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/...dcd0c276_o.png

colnago 2010-01-06 00:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jspenguin (Post 454819)
Before you complain to your ISP, test your speed with a wired connection to make sure that wifi is not your problem. Also, speedtest.net uses flash which runs slowly on the N900. I think it might be affecting the reported speed.

Try www.speakeasy.net/speedtest

...may be a little lighter on the "Flash" and still give everyone a consistent baseline, vs. speedtest.net


I second checking with "wired" connection as well. If you're using your own router, behind any "Cox" provided device, does that WAN port support speeds above 10Mb? My older Netgear SOHO routers (blue metal box) do not.

cliffr39 2010-01-06 00:32

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Yay :) I used the 1mb and 2mb file
http://www.mobilespeedtest.com/resul...mobile3137.jpg

x61 2010-01-06 00:50

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I am on the grandpa plan with t-mobile ($5.99). Now that they pushed 3G to my area, the N900 surfs the net like a pro.. haha. I checked my data usage at t-moibile.com and have already used about 1.5Gs of data half way through my cycle.

My speed test is clocking way above 10Mbps :D

uconsumer 2010-01-06 01:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 454936)
I am on the grandpa plan with t-mobile ($5.99). Now that they pushed 3G to my area, the N900 surfs the net like a pro.. haha. I checked my data usage at t-moibile.com and have already used about 1.5Gs of data half way through my cycle.

My speed test is clocking way above 10Mbps :D

I'm still on the $5.99, are you using internet2.voicestream.com? My speeds are terrible, even though I have 3g listed.

weirdbeard 2010-01-06 02:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x61 (Post 454936)
I am on the grandpa plan with t-mobile ($5.99). Now that they pushed 3G to my area, the N900 surfs the net like a pro.. haha. I checked my data usage at t-moibile.com and have already used about 1.5Gs of data half way through my cycle.

My speed test is clocking way above 10Mbps :D

lol yeah. i was getting that too with no wifi connected, but it is false. i download a lot with my n900 and it never goes over 150k/sec. 150k/sec = 1.2Mbit = tmobile max 3g speeds. my is always switching between 3 to 3.5g.

colnago 2010-01-06 02:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uconsumer (Post 454981)
I'm still on the $5.99, are you using internet2.voicestream.com? My speeds are terrible, even though I have 3g listed.

I got 3Mb on Internet2 APN...so I think its possible to get benefits of the "7Mb" network. I'm not so convinced about that mobilespeedtest.com site.

mobilefan 2010-01-06 02:36

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I get roughly 850 - 940 kbps download speed and 330 kbps upload using www.speedtest.net and www.speakeasy.net/speedtest . So not much has changed since last week I tested. I was hoping to get noticeable improvements with this "reported" upgrade. I'm using the epc APN.

colnago 2010-01-06 02:42

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Yeah, I'm still getting about that with both epc and internet2 APNs...the wait continues.

gesperon 2010-01-06 04:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 454890)
Fair enough, but in "what place"? Pic is of TMo in DC, and Philly definately has the higher speeds:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/...dcd0c276_o.png

Downtown Miami. The Miami area is usually one of first or second group of markets when there is a deployment... So when they announce "the whole 3G network have been upgraded" I would expect to be covered by the upgrade

Laughing Man 2010-01-06 04:47

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I think TMobile and AT&T have upgraded their networks, they just haven't flipped the on switch yet. Something about testing it city by city.


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