N900 screen not bright enough!!!
 

I find that the screen just isnt bright enough. If i sat it next to my ipod touch that is on half brightness level and the n900 on full. It just sucks. Some more brightness will make the screen alot nicer.

- No ovi store
- No User friendly apps
- Bugs
- No innovative stuff
- Device too thick and heavy and still it misses a lot.

This is making me a little bit shakey, seeing what google offers with nexus one. I hope nokia does something right with the FW otherwise im feeling screwed for having such a painfull contract for it.

:(

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huh .. turn ur brightness on and ull drain the damn battery fast !

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No man my battery is one of the better ones i geuss... goes pretty long but i still want a liver screen .. would make the browsing even more amazing.

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Way to be constructive... :/
You'll get a lot further if you make meaningful criticisms, or if you offer suggestions on how to improve it (bugtracker/brainstorm).
-What exactly does "No User friendly apps" mean? How are you measuring how "user friendly" they are? It stands to reason that a given interface design won't suit everyone, but I've seen very few things (maybe two) that I could see being Bad in general. Furthermore, have you tried every single app available, or are you just making sweeping generalizations?
- "Bugs": Yes, it has bugs. Everything has bugs. Things that are brand new usually have a lot of bugs. If you find a new bug (e.g. search first), you can file it on the public bug tracker (bugs.maemo.org), and follow its progress. If you do, realize that saying "this sucks" will - if anything - make the developers less inclined to fix it fast. From what I've seen and heard, the Maemo team has been working like crazy to fix a lot of those bugs.
- "No innovative stuff": Again, a generalization. Do you mean hardware? Software? What? The amount of flexibility it provides is essentially unprecedented as far as mass-market phones go, and that means that innovation can be done by the community at large, as well. For that matter, this is Nokia's first Open Source phone, which in itself is a pretty impressive move for a large company.
- "Device too thick and heavy and still it misses a lot" Yeah, it has a bit of weight to it, and it's thicker than some - but I haven't seen many phones with similar hardware that are much smaller.

Honestly, if you don't like your phone, then sell it -- or deal with it. Ranting on the community forums won't make your phone more to your liking, and it just annoys people like me who end up reading your posts. However, given the Open nature of this phone, you could do something constructive instead. If you find a bug, report it. If you have a concrete feature request, file it on Brainstorm. If you don't know how to do something, then ask. Heck - if you really want to, you could even convince/pay a geek you know to work on something for you. But please... if you don't like it, and want to complain about... go somewhere else. We're happy to help you and take your input, but this sort of post is just frustrating.

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Have you checked what setting you have the brightness on? If you are getting brilliant battery time, it may be that your screen is set to low brightness already.

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I think it's too bright, even on the lowest setting. :(

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As I don't have an iphone I compared the maximum brightness with that of the n95. I can see no difference. do we know anything quantitative about the power consumption of the screens? (Maybe the iphone is brighter, it only has to power half of the pixels the n900 has to do.)

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Hm. The issue I've had with brightness, right from the start, is that's the settings aren't fine-grained enough. I usually have it at 4, which is too dark, but 5 is way too bright.

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Really? I find one to be too dark, but 2 is nice. By three, I can see the battery draining and by 5 it's just burning my eyes. Colors are washed out. I can see the screen reflecting off my eyeballs!

Seriously though, by 4 I feel it's a bit too dark. Indoors it stays on 2/5, and I sometimed push it to 3/5 when watching high quality video to enhance the details in the dark.

Also where do you live? Sakkara?

Oh and, I doubled my battery life going from 3 to 2 so we might have slightly different hardware as well. What theme? I have the blue splash N series.

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Completely different screen technologies. The n900 is exactly as bright as any other resistive screen, and just as hard to read in full sun as any other.

Its hard to expect it to be any different since its a function of the extra layer between the outer layer of plastic and the inner layer of glass (vs just a glass screen with a capacitive coating for the iPhone)

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i put all my phones on low brightness- i dont mind to be honest only have probs in the sun.

this phone on max brightness is fine to bright fro normal use.- i dont need the higher bright settings anyway

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Yea mine also is too bright on the lowest setting.

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now thats pretty weird, anything above 2 is too much brightness for me, used to have iphone 3g.. i dont recall much difrence concerning that.

you right nokia might have been at bit too fast at getting the n900 on the market, my guess is they wanted it out before christmas, so sure it has a few bugs and ovi store isent up yet... but nothing that wont be fixed within a month or 2.

i'm not sure what you mean with "device is too thick and still misses alot"?? i mean the n900 pretty much has everything.. including a fm transmitter!! thats pretty innovative for me. damn nice for road trips..

and.. "no user friendly apps"? sure theres a few command line apps... out of hundreds of apps.

maybe you should explain exactly what you mean instead of just coming with some random complaints :)

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Good points.

At 5, my N900 beats the HTC HD2 and the IPhone on normal.

Also, that's a good point, the resistive touchscreen is a light hog, frankly they can't really be compared, it's like comparing a window with a screen door.

I see many people lamenting the lack of capacitive. For what? Lose the ability to write on the device, draw, pin elements in the GUI for the ability to zoom an image with 2 fingers instead of the one-handed zoom button or gestures?

What DO people see in capacitive anyway? It's not like resistive takes a full kilo of force to register - any softer and it would be hard to use, IMO. On IPhone, the writing is bigger to be able to be touched, it scrolls all the time to read and you zoom in and out like crazy to read, then click. I find it less than optimal.

Multitouch is good for large screens.

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I am confused by this:

The N900 has a light sensor. How bright the screen is depends on the amount of ambient light. The brightness still changes according to the ambient light whatever the setting - the setting determines the average.


Set the screen to maximum brightness and take it to a very well-lit place and it will be the brightest.

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Someone made a brightness app for the N800 that was perfect. It allowed something like 30 increments. In dark environments these devices blind me with light. And in a theatre, for instance, the very lowest setting made it visible to only me--so I was not that £$€&?! with the destracting light.

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markr041: and hardest to read. T have its brightes, take it to dark place and shine a light into the sensor.

lancewex:
Really? Now I know we have different settings. In pitch black my first setting is uncomfortable to read because of low brightness. With all lights, screens, etc off in a room with shades, at night, the screen is barely visible. Readable but just.

Sometimes the sensor kicks in a little, making it readable for half a second, if it catches a little light, then goes back to gray. The white text on the screen is _about_ as bright as the keyboard.

Less than blinding.

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i find the screen isreally bright! to the point where it hurts my eyes if i have it up full. have it set to around half way and it seems fine.

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I pity da fool! :-)

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i aint gettin on no plane!

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Try taking them both out into full sun and see which one is easier to read.

I would do that experiment but
1) I have no iStuff
and 2) being in Boston, i have no sun

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i love when ppl bash new phones. yes lets compare the crappy android apps and iphone apps that been around 1-4 years prior to maemo 5. dude seriously.....

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fm transmitter doesnt work wel sadly enough, ovi store takes a bit to long to open sadly, no ovi connect support. Ive had an Nokia N95 and at the moment that still is a better phone in some parts.. dont get me wrong I do like this phone. I also keep defending it but this is the time for this phone to MAKE IT OR BREAK IT.... nothing more to add..

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A few points:
- The FM transmitter seems completely functional to me. How useful it is will depend both on your receiver and your environment; IIRC the transmission power is a regulatory matter for most countries, so if it's too weak, I doubt Nokia can do anything about it.
- What's so great about the Ovi store? Almost all of the current apps are Free (at least in terms of cost) - I don't see why people keep complaining that they can't buy apps :S
- As to your last comment, if you feel so strongly, then suggest things that could be done better, rather than just complaining... I'd be the first to admit it is far from perfect, but I've done what I can (testing, bug reporting, etc) to try to change that.

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That's the one way to make quality of programs better. Right now you can politely ask someone that they added some features kindly to their program, but when you pay for program you can really demand things. On the other hand when you want money from your program it usually really pushes developers to make it better and better and usually there is also competition between programs.

YES. I really want place where i can buy programs and where developers can make money! That will boost things up and make this device more attractive to common users. And I hope that's what everyone here wants because with success this device will get support from Nokia. If it stays only in niche market prepare yourself for community hacks/kernels and nokia leaving this behind :| Probably there is some short sighted people who really want to stay in marginal market.

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you beat me to it slender.

i would be happy to pay for quality apps.

the sooner we get the store in place the better for everyone.

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Thank you for that... i just want this phone to be a succes just like a N95... dont want it to end up like an n97.

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I take your point, and I'll grant you that there is a place for that. I'm not against paying for software (although as a student, I certainly am glad I haven't had to in years), but I guess I mistook the intent of that statement. I'm not a rabid FOSS evangelist who thinks that proprietary apps are evil, but I do believe that the kind of ecosystem and community Open Source can create is a Good Thing (TM). I personally hope that large amounts of Maemo software continues to be Open Source, so that that sort of environment persists. Also, commercial vendors often push for DRM, and while the Maemo 6 development proposes an interesting solution in that regard, I worry about how it might go.

One other point to make about your comments... I would agree that sometimes (although certainly not in general) Open Source apps can be of lower quality or functionality than comparable proprietary apps, especially the more specialized ones. Where I think you're wrong, however, is in your next statement. With proprietary apps, you're at the mercy of the vendor, who usually couldn't care less about what you want unless it will make them more money. With Open Source, anyone with the requisite knowledge can take a crack at it. No, they're not obliged to do what you want, but neither are commercial vendors - however, you're free to do it yourself or find someone else who can. I'm not saying this is always an option, but at least it's possible. For another thing, an app being Open Source doesn't stop you from paying for it. If you think money is a good motivator, then by all means, donate to the developers, or offer a bounty for a certain feature. I'm sure they'll appreciate it, and it might just get you what you want.

....wow that was Off-topic. Sorry :S

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That wasn't off topic any more than the previous few posts were, and the OP wasn't exactly a paragon of structured and focused thought.

If we're going to revenue-ize maemo (and i consider that very unlikely) i think a bounty system would be the most useful--and a culture where people who like the free apps contribute towards others from the community, rather than from independent developers. For example, much free software can be directly ported to Maemo, and many volunteers are doing that. The same people might also be working on their own, in-house (heh) projects.

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Same here.My N900 is on two days.
Difference between 4 and 5 is huge.
I have it on 5 (looks normal), because 4 is too dark.

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We have already made some threads about the brightness-problem. Give a try!
But our problem was that the screen is too bright :D

Maybe you have new hardware...?

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I usually keep mine at 3 bars, which is a little on the dark side but good for everyday stuff. In bright sunlight I use 4 or 5 bars and I use 2 bars in the dark.

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Hm for me 1 is complete off.
And 2-3-4 is very dark.
5 looks normal.