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geneven 2010-01-08 14:51

Jogging with the N900
 
This morning I went for my first run with the N900. I would be interested in seeing comments of others who jog with this tablet; tips and tricks would be welcome.

I had also took my new Directlife device, which is supposed to measure how much activity I have. I haven't looked at the results yet.

The main difference between this and earlier tablets is that I felt much less likely to get comments such as "Is that an N800 in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?"

It sat in my pocket and didn't swing much. And the sound quality (I was listening to The Economist with a cheap but durable Nike behind-the-ear headset) was good.

Tomorrow I will probably try out my bluetooth headset; it is a Cardo S-2 which is of wonderful sound quality but not durable -- I have already broken one of them.

I was a bit concerned that the sound would break up a bit because the jack would wiggle in its emplacement, but all was stable. It seems to me I will incorporate the N900 in my jogs. It is especially nice to have a phone with me automatically -- I occasionally used to jog with an mp3 player and a phone, and I felt overburdened. Now I could theoretically stop off at a coffee house and look like any other phone-toting yuppie.

any 2010-03-21 21:46

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Is it ok to jog with it, what about the hard drive inside?

jcm6084 2010-03-21 21:49

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
I went jogging with mine the other day, I held it in my right hand instead of putting it in a pocket though. Was really good cause i had my motivational tunes on! ( pendulum!) and also had ecoach running so i could check my stats out after :D

gobuki 2010-03-21 21:52

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by any (Post 576345)
Is it ok to jog with it, what about the hard drive inside?

It is totally ok. The "harddrive" has no moving parts. It's a flash chip.

jamiefuller 2010-03-22 06:18

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
I use mine for both running and biking.

for running i brought a cheap arm strap off of ebay ages ago for my 5800. it was big enough to squeeze my N97 in when I upgraded and even managed to stretch a little bit more to fit my N900 =)

I wouldnt want to keep it in my pocket bouncing around though.

ecoach is great but i miss the community features of sportstracker.

the only things that worries me are rain and when i'm on my bike I worry about falling off and landing on my phone. not that its ever happened but I get paranoid with this beauty =)

twaelti 2010-03-22 10:07

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Don't forget the Pedometer widget, which works as a stepcounter.

raily 2010-03-22 10:26

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
When I shake my N900 i can here a rattling sound from around the camera. How does the autofocus work without moving parts? Hence, I am a little bit afraid of taking my N900 with me for jogging.

qwerty12 2010-03-22 10:27

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raily (Post 576868)
When I shake my N900 i can here a rattling sound from around the camera.

Wouldn't that be the accelerometer?

raily 2010-03-22 11:25

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty12 (Post 576870)
Wouldn't that be the accelerometer?

As far as I know accelerometers are micromechanical structures so small you could never here it moving, Must be something else though.
http://archives.sensorsmag.com/artic...03/20/fig1.jpg

Do your here something when you shake your phone next to your ear?

joshv06 2010-03-22 11:31

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Could be a loose sim card slot or micro sd card slot.

qwerty12 2010-03-22 11:34

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raily (Post 576929)
As far as I know accelerometers are micromechanical structures so small you could never here it moving, Must be something else though.
http://archives.sensorsmag.com/artic...03/20/fig1.jpg

Do your here something when you shake your phone next to your ear?

I, too, hear something when I do as you say. Probably the service manuals floating around on the net could shed some more information into it. Ah well, I figure the phone will get shaken about in daily use anyway so I guess it's no consquence to me if it shakes whilst jogging or the like. :)

raily 2010-03-22 11:39

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshv06 (Post 576936)
Could be a loose sim card slot or micro sd card slot.

I removed the backcover to get a closer look at the sd-card slot. When I put my finger on it while shaking the phone, there is no noise anymore.

It would be interesting what the official warranty statement of nokia is in this matter. Most likely they don't allow jogging, even if there are no moving parts inside the phone.

juise- 2010-03-22 12:06

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raily (Post 576947)
It would be interesting what the official warranty statement of nokia is in this matter. Most likely they don't allow jogging, even if there are no moving parts inside the phone.

I don't work for Nokia so this is just a guess, but I think that jogging with the device in your pocket should not exceed g-force limits specified for a portable device. Common sense says this, and unless jogging/running is something they have specifically disallowed, they will have a hard time claiming otherwise.

Due to the weight of the thing though, I don't see myself taking it with me when I go running...

blue_led 2010-03-22 12:15

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raily (Post 576929)
As far as I know accelerometers are micromechanical structures so small you could never here it moving, Must be something else though.
http://archives.sensorsmag.com/artic...03/20/fig1.jpg

Do your here something when you shake your phone next to your ear?

Accelerometter can suport 8g on any direction like F16 plane pilot :D at 8g you can pass out !

bold : this is a rookie joke ?http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...1&d=1253480525

eitama 2010-03-22 12:27

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_led (Post 576989)
Accelerometter can suport 8g on any direction like F16 plane pilot :D at 8g you can pass out !

bold : this is a rookie joke ?http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...1&d=1253480525

Is that a fact for all accelerometers? or just the N900's one?
If just for the N900, can you link it's specs?

blue_led 2010-03-22 12:37

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
http://www.st.com/stonline/products/...e/ds/12726.pdf

10000g high shock survivability - i think it will survive at future asteroid impact to earth :D

eitama 2010-03-22 12:44

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_led (Post 577005)
http://www.st.com/stonline/products/...e/ds/12726.pdf

10000g high shock survivability - i think it will survive at future asteroid impact to earth :D

Thx for the info (:

raily 2010-03-22 14:11

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
You misunderstood. Someone pointed out, that the sound could come from the accelerometer. I said, that this would not be possible.
It is not about the accelerometer at all, that I am afraid of the stress for the device while jogging.
Soldering points are not very shock resistant instead. So this could be an issue to think about.

eitama 2010-03-22 14:20

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Camera shutter could also make sounds I can only imagine.
It's very tempting to have a 32g mp3 player to run with, that has EQ, phone and everything - But I would not run with it.

I use a ipod suffle 1GB with no screen on shuffle mode for my runs.
I got a python script that allows me to skip the ITunes pain in the ***.

blue_led 2010-03-22 21:05

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raily (Post 577148)
You misunderstood. Someone pointed out, that the sound could come from the accelerometer. I said, that this would not be possible.
It is not about the accelerometer at all, that I am afraid of the stress for the device while jogging.
Soldering points are not very shock resistant instead. So this could be an issue to think about.

I have no stress. my fujitsu t830 had survive to this environmenthttp://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1268595662 and I expect my n900 do the same.

Tizbad2k 2010-03-22 22:43

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raily (Post 576929)
As far as I know accelerometers are micromechanical structures so small you could never here it moving, Must be something else though.
http://archives.sensorsmag.com/artic...03/20/fig1.jpg

Do your here something when you shake your phone next to your ear?

lol ive actually made an accelerometer very similar to the one pictured.

jalyst 2010-11-06 16:10

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
So I've been seriously contemplating an iTouch 4g for jogging.
Mainly because unlike most other freaking iPods, it has BT and Nike+!
But it's a weird form of Nike+ in that it doesn't use a GPS (except iP4) or pedometer.
It somehow makes use of the accelerometer....

I'm not sure how accurate this will be compared to using a GPS or pedometer.
Plus it's a lot of dosh to spend on an iPod, just so I can have BT & log my runs etc.
So I'm thinking maybe I should just make use of my N900.

Has anyone actually used a recent iPod with Nike+? Is there a comparable set-up for N900?
I know you could just use any GPS logger, but I want a polished experience etc.
Any ideas/suggestions/experiences?

**UPDATE**
My bad, Nike+ has always made use of an accelerometer or GPS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike%2BiPod
With the aid of the Nike+ GPS app, iTouch 4G & iPhone 4 need only the accelerometer* built into them.

Unlike previous Nano's or Touch's, which need either an:
accelerometer hooked-up to ones shoe that transmits to a receiver plugged into the iPod. OR
accelerometer hooked-up to ones shoe that transmits to a receiver already built-in.

Though it's still not clear how well this change works in practice, can't find anything on the net!
I would've thought having the accelerometer in ones shoe (or using pouch) would be more accurate.

*iPhone 4 makes use of it's accelerometer & GPS

christoph 2010-11-06 16:33

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jamiefuller (Post 576674)
I u
ecoach is great but i miss the community features of sportstracker.

how about a n900/ecoach group on heiaheia ?

jalyst 2010-11-06 16:46

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by christoph (Post 865280)
how about a n900/ecoach group on heiaheia ?

Hey thanks for the suggestion!
Have you used Nike+ on a recent iPod?
If so how does it compare IYO?

geneven 2010-11-06 20:49

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
When I jog with my N900 now I don't put it in my pocket; I bought a case that I can clip on to my waist band. That minimizes the jiggle and makes it more comfortable to run with.

davetech 2010-11-06 23:12

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
I run with mine for about a year, 3-4 days/week, for about 30-50 min/day. I keep it in a Caselogic pouch, secure the loop to my wrist, and run with it in hand. Sometimes I'll use a Motorokr S305 or SE HBH-IS800 BT headset. I've run in the rain a few times without issue. Works well enough for me.

RobbieThe1st 2010-11-07 01:16

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Slightly off topic here, but the "rattling" noise is the vibrate motor spinning as you shake it.
Remember, the vibrater is(in this case) a little motor with a semi-curcular weight on the shaft. As the motor spins, the weight ends up shaking the device as it's not balanced.

It's not a problem to have it move as you shake the phone, and can be safely ignored.

jalyst 2010-11-07 17:21

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 865265)
So I've been seriously contemplating an iTouch 4g for jogging.
Mainly because unlike most other freaking iPods, it has BT and Nike+!

<SNIP>

Has anyone actually used a recent iPod with Nike+? Is there a comparable set-up for N900?
I know you could just use any GPS logger, but I want a polished experience etc.
Any ideas/suggestions/experiences?

**UPDATE**
My bad, Nike+ has always made use of an accelerometer or GPS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike%2BiPod
With the aid of the Nike+ GPS app, iTouch 4G & iPhone 4 need only the accelerometer* built into them.

Unlike previous Nano's or Touch's, which need either an:
accelerometer hooked-up to ones shoe that transmits to a receiver plugged into the iPod. OR
accelerometer hooked-up to ones shoe that transmits to a receiver already built-in.

Though it's still not clear how well this change works in practice, can't find anything on the net!
I would've thought having the accelerometer in ones shoe (or using pouch) would be more accurate.

*iPhone 4 makes use of it's accelerometer & GPS

Just going to get the itouch 4g 8GB, on-balance it's ahead of the ZuneHD for my intended uses.
Looked at numerous comparos/discussions etc, the HD2 may push ahead of the 4G, but that's a way off.
I can always play with the N900 too & compare both for music/podcasts + jogging + run stats.

Now looking for some decent stereo BT (maybe with mic) headphones.
Have started with the Senn. range, don't really need noise cancellation so that prolly knocks-out some already :)

MM 450
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/wireles...ortable_502891
MM 400
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/wireles...ortable_502888
MM 200
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/wireles...ortable_502413
MM 100
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/wireles...ortable_504113
PXC 310 BT
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/bluetoo...dphones-502384
PX 210 BT
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/bluetoo...dphones-502378

Dave999 2010-11-07 17:42

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
I have to say: So far android is the best choice if you... walking,running, jogging, biking and so forth. A great watch is even better. But way to expensive. Buy a cheap SE x10 or basic HTC. Don't use the n900 for training its almost useless.

jalyst 2010-11-07 17:48

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
I want the touch also because i intend to re-purpose it as UR that interfaces with a controller device for a HA system I'm building soon.
Based loosely around this.....

jotun 2011-07-11 21:42

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
-that noise might be lose battery...i run with my n900, holding in my hand. The only thing that bothers me is weight and sweat. I run for 50 mins...so it's a real issue :-)

geneven 2011-07-11 21:51

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 866115)
I have to say: So far android is the best choice if you... walking,running, jogging, biking and so forth. A great watch is even better. But way to expensive. Buy a cheap SE x10 or basic HTC. Don't use the n900 for training its almost useless.

I figure I could use the N900 to call a cab :) But these days I've been jogging without any electronics at all.

skykooler 2011-07-11 22:35

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
I have gone running with my N900 in a arm case several times. it is really handy, especially when used with, say, gpsrecorder. The only thing I don't like is the tendency for the arm band to slide down my arm (it was a cheapo one I got at kmart).

jalyst 2011-07-12 06:50

Re: Jogging with the N900
 
Been hugely enjoying my iTouch4g + stereo BT Sennheiser MM100's.
Tried the N900, but not really suitable for that application IMO.


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